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El Juno ([info]eljuno) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-01-04 20:06:00


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Current mood: thoughtful
Entry tags:charity, fandom: harry potter

Of 'Mice and Waves
Grabbed from [info]wank_report.

Around a year ago, there was a tsunami which a few of you may remember. It was on the news once or twice. Potterfandom, always willing to pass the hat around, stepped up to the plate with comms like pr0n2therescue and art2therescue. And there was rejoicing.

Then, a bit over a year later, there was a hatememe. Which brought up this.

[info]celestialsoda. I'm half convinced that she kept all that money that the fanartists raised last year for the tsunami victims. She jumped down some girls throat for daring to question how much money was raised on one of the auctions, and as far as I know a final accounting was never done. Not cool.

And even though I bid on and won two pieces of art for that, I have to say this practice of fanartists selling their work is bullshit. Spin it all you like, but it's copywrite infringement and no different than a writer trying to sell their fanfics. People, stop thinking if you don't call them on their bullshit they might draw you something! They won't!


Run of the mill, right?

Wrong.

I'm half convinced that she kept all that money that the fanartists raised last year for the tsunami victims.

Nope. That would be my fault. :( It's still sitting in paypal, waiting for various technicalities to be sorted out. I am a crap procrastinater, but I'm no thief. Hate on me if you want.

~L


(~L is the signoff of </a></b></a>[info]lizardspots)

Predictably, explosions follow, and demands for accountablility.

</a></b></a>[info]celestialsoda has yet to reply in any form I have seen.

ETA: The response.




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[info]willywanka
2006-01-05 03:41 am UTC (link)
The idea that celestialsoda is keeping the money for herself is too retarded to be taken seriously. She's the last person who would do that type of thing.

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dracothelizard
2006-01-05 03:41 am UTC (link)
Tiny, but it has potential. Also, Lizardspots isn't a crap procrastinator, she's very good at it!

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[info]sporked
2006-01-05 03:42 am UTC (link)
celestialsoda has yet to reply in any form I have seen.

Then you missed the wanky sideshow.

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[info]southbitch
2006-01-05 03:43 am UTC (link)
http://www.livejournal.com/community/art2therescue/20997.html

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(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2006-01-05 03:51 am UTC

soula
2006-01-05 03:50 am UTC (link)
I hate that this whole lizardspots and celestialsoda shit hasn't been posted on Fandom Wank yet. It's been reported 3 times!
Come on F_W, get your act together and post. Because fuck, people need to know.


First F_W stands for, if not is, everything wrong with HP and the cult of mean, and now it's the fandom morality police...?

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[info]alisalias
2006-01-05 03:57 am UTC (link)
I'm glad it's a case of Paypal screwiness like the anon comment said and not stealing. The amount of money raised is rather impressive.

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[info]esclaramonde
2006-01-05 04:01 am UTC (link)
Cowardly mice, &c., &c., hatememes suck, &c., &c.

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[info]ultimate_cin
2006-01-05 04:09 am UTC (link)
And even though I bid on and won two pieces of art for that, I have to say this practice of fanartists selling their work is bullshit.

Obviously she didn't think it was bullshit when she bid on the art.....so wtf???

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[info]ashenmote
2006-01-05 04:49 am UTC (link)
F_W because the world needs to know? What the fuck?

Those anons need some strong meds and they need them now.

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[info]emiweebee
2006-01-05 05:02 am UTC (link)
I didn't give any money after the tsunami, and I'm glad, because in the weeks/months after, it came out that tons of donated food was there, but couldn't be delivered. I am a firm believer in researching a charity/how money is given out before I give out my money.

Ergo, I'm kind of shocked that everyone's so upset that OMG some random person got our money and it's been hard to give it to the right people! I totally bought something even though it's morally reprehensible to do so!

Although I have to say, if I were in charge, I'd start calling people in the know to make the transaction go through faster/donate the same amount out of my own funds/at least post a public explanation.

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[info]ecchaniz0r
2006-01-05 05:45 am UTC (link)
Bint, it is spelt copyRIGHT.

Basically: the right to copy.

While copy writers can obtain copyright, that's neither here nor there,. Learn yer terms, dangit.

And seriously, what crawled up this wench's ass and expired!? Man, I cannot WAIT 'til, like, lukadia and allcuishpa or someone get ahold of this dingdingdong.

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I'm popular I'm popular! - (Anonymous), 2006-01-08 05:57 am UTC

[info]notjo
2006-01-05 06:01 am UTC (link)
Who has time to go through 3000 some odd comments on 27 pages to find these discussions?

Fandom Hate is getting weird.

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[info]canisetlupus
2006-01-05 06:02 am UTC (link)
Disclaimer: With this post, I'm not implying that either of them took the money and ran.
But I wonder... Why did they wait until someone complained in an anonymous hate meme to clear things up? Why didn't they explain to everyone who donated what had happenned?
I mean, it hasn't been a week, or a month. It's been a whole year.

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[info]krazycat
2006-01-05 06:09 am UTC (link)
As someone who has headdesked until her head felt like it was about to rip open because of paypal, I can somehow relate. I wouldn't use them again unless I absolutely had to.

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(no subject) - [info]vuirneen, 2006-01-05 08:36 pm UTC

[info]xero_sky
2006-01-05 06:21 am UTC (link)
Between this and the way Paypal handled SA's Katrina donations, I wouldn't contribute a dime through that company.

And if it wasn't for the fact that they enable me to buy porn doujinshi off Ebay, I probably wouldn't have anything to do with them at all.

Sweet, sweet doujinshi...

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[info]hellespont
2006-01-05 06:33 am UTC (link)
Now, hatememes fascinate me, so the first thing I had to do was check our the journals userinfo and interest list. I'm surprised by the number of things it listed that not only are not listed by anyone else on LJ, but could also make very serviceable punk, emo, or indie bands names:

Harry/Overwhelming Tragic Death OTP

Hateful Republicans

Hating Love Specifically

Sexmeme

Shit Flinging Cunts

Spam Robot Challenge

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[info]charmian
2006-01-05 06:37 am UTC (link)
WTF?! She tried to do major financial transactions under an obvious pseudonym? I mean, doesn't common sense kind of tell people that there are laws regulating this kind of thing that make it unlikely that this will be allowed? (I mean, consider all the possibility for money laundering, etc.).

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(no subject) - [info]nlb_muffin, 2006-01-05 06:51 am UTC
Word. - (Anonymous), 2006-01-05 09:55 am UTC
Re: Word. - (Anonymous), 2006-01-05 10:54 am UTC
Re: Word. - (Anonymous), 2006-01-08 05:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]romana03, 2006-01-05 10:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]stalin, 2006-01-05 09:24 pm UTC
One-way ticket to hell...
[info]adora_spintriae
2006-01-05 07:12 am UTC (link)
I shouldn't be laughing about tsunami victims being deprived of aid because someone registered their paypal account under "Lizardspots", but I am.

I hope my ticket's first-class...

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Re: One-way ticket to hell... - [info]kami, 2006-01-05 07:32 am UTC
Re: One-way ticket to hell... - [info]wankismyfandom, 2006-01-05 01:11 pm UTC

bankai
2006-01-05 07:58 am UTC (link)
Haha, even when you try to do something good in response to a national disaster, you still somehow manage to piss people off.

No one is a winner in HP fandom.

Maybe I'll try the lottery instead next time. Better odds.

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[info]prettyveela
2006-01-05 07:58 am UTC (link)
I hate that work has kept me from all the wank. :(

Since this has been a year in the making, why didn't the ones wanking demanding an explanation go to [info]celestialsoda and [info]lizardspots directly? I mean damn a year? I would have asked about the money about a month after that. *shrug*

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[info]squib
2006-01-05 08:56 am UTC (link)
Did the hatememe just get flocked?

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[info]prettyveela
2006-01-05 10:28 am UTC (link)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/bookshop/647936.html

Aja has taken off her BNF shirt and put her wanker shirt back on lol

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(no subject) - [info]tiki, 2006-01-05 11:48 am UTC

shirokumo
2006-01-05 11:10 am UTC (link)
People spend hundreds of dollars on fan-art? *speechless*

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[info]aerobot
2006-01-05 11:27 am UTC (link)
I am a crap procrastinater, but I'm no thief.

Oh, okay, that makes everything alright then. I mean, hey, thousands of people lost their homes and families, but hey, just take your sweet time!

NOT.

I can understand it's due to PayPal being assholes, but a fucking YEAR!?

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[info]mister_terrific
2006-01-05 03:18 pm UTC (link)
I have to say this practice of fanartists selling their work is bullshit. Spin it all you like, but it's copywrite infringement and no different than a writer trying to sell their fanfics.

Having attended many a MediaWestCon art auction (not to mention a few Blakes 7 shows), all I can say is, "Boy, are you ever in need of an education."

Mister Terrific
Defender of Fair Play
Owns A Number of Virgils, Rosenthals and Rivers

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