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Sofie Fatale ([info]sluggirl) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-01-07 03:19:00


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Current mood:Mildly Amused
Entry tags:fandom: brokeback mountain, gay

Should I see Brokeback Mountain even though gayness is evil?
On the Brokeback Mountain imdb board, mole02 asks:
...I can't help but wonder about how much of these raves I've been hearing, like the Oscar talk and Golden Globe nominations, are because of the film's cinematic brilliance and how much are just because it's a film that endorses homosexuality.

People ask why it matters. mole02 states that he is bipartisan, and therefore wary of the liberal media bias. Or something. The rest of the discussion is mostly mole02 defending his non-bigot status.

Classic quotes:
lol...I cannot believe that you consider me, one person on the internet that you don't even know, to be a bigot just because I personally disagree with homosexuality. Wow, are you insecure.

Oh, cry me a river...you think you're so persecuted because once in a while, some ignorant jackass decides that he wants to beat some gay guy to death? Please.

And then this gem:
MattGuyOR: Please refrain from telling us you're bipartisan again, for I feel myself going bipostal if you do.

Don't miss Gays=Big Brother, plus mole02 starting every single post with "lol..."

And read it quick, because Petronius Arbiter II reports this message:
"Unable to process your request * Thanks, we already have sufficient abuse reports about this user * Administrators will be processing these in due course"




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[info]harrylovesron
2006-01-08 03:04 am UTC (link)
plus mole02 starting every single post with "lol..."

People who do that drive me BONKERS, especially when they start and end the post with "lol", and sprinkle a few in the middle of sentences for good measure. What... are you constantly laughing at yourself?

And wow... have to love mole02's logic.

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[info]selene_avis
2006-01-08 03:07 am UTC (link)
Oh, cry me a river...you think you're so persecuted because once in a while, some ignorant jackass decides that he wants to beat some gay guy to death? Please.

Uh...yeah. No one should have to worry about getting beat to death. You know, there's a reason that in real life I'm only out as bi to a handful of people. Well, two reasons. One because there are ignorant jackasses that might decide to beat me to death because of it. Two because there are ignorant jackass who would insist that it's no big deal.

Incidently, I saw Brokeback Mountain this afternoon with my sister. It's superb. There are a great deal many reasons that it's superb, but the movie isn't about endorsing homosexuality, even if it casts homosexual in a positive light. It's about the social repression that homosexuals felt during that time period, and about how inability for two lovers to be honest with each other/the world/themselves brings about the destruction of the time period. Mind you, the movie doesn't take place that far in the past, and a lot of what happened is still relevant.

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[info]nicolae
2006-01-08 03:15 am UTC (link)
First of all, saying that a film which portrays homosexuality endorses it is stupid.

Secondly, saying that you disagree with homosexuality is a little like saying you disagree with blue.

Thirdly, when is being beaten to death not persecution?

The liberal media and movie critics are worshipping Brokeback Mountain not because its a great film (it is not) but because they support the agenda of the film.

Yeah, the liberal media and movie critics are totally behind adultery, self-loathing, and being beaten to death.

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[info]moonjaguar
2006-01-08 03:16 am UTC (link)
Re: I'm Troubled...
by - mole02 19 hours ago (Fri Jan 6 2006 21:14:46 )

Okay...simple. I find many other things about women that attract me in ways that I do not feel comfortable being attracted to in men. I can see different things in men that I admire, but I would rather strive to use those things as suggestions as to my own presentation rather than methods of emotional or physical attraction, as I seek in women.
---

Mole, mole, do you have any idea how that little passage I emphasized sounded (to me, anyway)? How... loaded! Ya coulda just said, "Men don't turn me on" but 'phobes will be 'phobes...

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(Anonymous)
2006-01-08 03:37 am UTC (link)
They know that gays = big brother. shit. they're on to us.

misc. mouse

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[info]drworm
2006-01-08 03:46 am UTC (link)
Oh, cry me a river...you think you're so persecuted because once in a while, some ignorant jackass decides that he wants to beat some gay guy to death? Please.

Spoken like a person who has never been denied something or hassled by total strangers for something he can't control.

I mean, damn, it's clearly my fault that I'm not crazy about being beaten to death over something arbitrary. It's all this gayness just perverting my mind.

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[info]gal_montag
2006-01-08 03:47 am UTC (link)
Well duh, after all, Jamie Foxx won becuase of all the gay that was in Ray, same with Halle Berry. Her gay love scene with Billy Bob Thornton was groundbreaking. And Titanic? Gayest movie ever. Almost as gay as LotR. Because none of these people or movies are like, y'know, good or anything.

Additionally: you think you're so persecuted because once in a while, some ignorant jackass decides that he wants to beat some gay guy to death?

Buh zuh? O_o!?

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[info]manscatha
2006-01-08 04:04 am UTC (link)
I just have to draw everyone's attention to mole's explanation of how he personally 'chose' to be straight:

The features of women, physically and emotionally, made me feel this way when I started getting to the idea of having relationships when I was younger...and nothing will change my mind about that because I love women too much. And what made me feel that way...hmm...the primarily emotional nature of women, the sweetness of their look, the way they smell, their expressions, the way they do the things that only women look and act beautiful doing...even the little things. Sitting, standing, walking, laughing, smiling, talking. And I don't mean this in a filthy, lustful way, either. Women always have a beauty to them, and they move like butterflies in a meadow. Very, very graceful. That's what made me choose women.


So, yes, the word 'choose' clearly means something else to him than to other people... but my favourite bit in that paragraph has to be the butterfly metaphor. The whole thing sounds as if the only women he has ever seen were shy geisha girls at work. Come on, even the loveliest girl will have a few non-butterfly moments...

I also like how he failed to respond to the gay girl who asked him whether the above made him sympathize with her own choice.

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(Anonymous)
2006-01-08 04:28 am UTC (link)
Oh, shut UP!

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[info]alisalias
2006-01-08 04:51 am UTC (link)
by - mole02 1 day ago (Fri Jan 6 2006 17:02:43 )
Well, the thing is, I'm bipartisian and I believe that people in this country waste too much valuable time on trying to advance their own political agenda, which is usually right or left. Now, tell it like I see it. And as a passionate movie buff, musician, writer and aspiring filmmaker, I see a lot of liberal actions, in terms of society and politics, being fed into our society every day by the news media, which is why I say the things I say. I believe in TRUE equality and in doing what's best for the United States, regardless of political party. I think too many people here are too focused on being right or left and that's why we have the continuing problems that we have.


I don't know even know what to say.

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[info]mercutia
2006-01-08 04:53 am UTC (link)
Well, personally, I think that--

NEWSIES ICON!

*squees; forgets matter at hand*

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(no subject) - [info]nicolae, 2006-01-08 05:07 am UTC
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[info]evanwaters
2006-01-08 05:20 am UTC (link)
I'm not even sure this fits in "fandom wank" so much as "bigoted moron reveals his poor rhetorical skills."

But while we're on the subject, MY EYES! Good Christ that's bad forum design.

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(no subject) - [info]sewingmyfish, 2006-01-08 05:47 am UTC

[info]nlb_muffin
2006-01-08 05:26 am UTC (link)
Mister Plan: Brokeback Mountain falsely claims that this is love story yet there is no "love" in the film. But there's lots of pain, suffering and self-destruction.

Because love is all about fluffy bunnies and sweet sugar and pretty flowers and snuggly hugs and warm kisses.

carmenjonze-1: how do you know it has a "social agenda" or "endorses homosexuality" if you have not seen it yet

either see the movie for yourself and come to your own conclusions, or stop repeating what you've been told over and over.


mole02: I don't repeat what I've been told...I'm bipartisian, so I say what I see. And I haven't seen the film, yet, but I know what I see on TV in the previews and what I read in the reviews.

Here's your sign. [/Bill Engvall]

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(no subject) - [info]bobgenghiskhan, 2006-01-09 02:12 am UTC
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[info]gun
2006-01-08 05:31 am UTC (link)
Please get off the bipartisan team? You're making us look bad.

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(no subject) - [info]sabinelagrande, 2006-01-08 05:36 am UTC
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[info]delicfcd
2006-01-08 05:53 am UTC (link)
you think you're so persecuted because once in a while, some ignorant jackass decides that he wants to beat some gay guy to death?

I have decided I want to beat this poster to death. Luckily, it turns out I won't be persecuting anyone by doing so. Hurrah!

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(no subject) - [info]gweniveeve, 2006-01-08 06:01 am UTC
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[info]gweniveeve
2006-01-08 06:06 am UTC (link)
Okay, soon I am going to HAVE to take the 45-minute drive and see this movie.

Grrr. I swear, first time in awhile where I was actually excited about a movie, and it's in "limited release."

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(no subject) - [info]so_long42, 2006-01-08 06:11 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2006-01-08 06:08 am UTC (link)
...I can't help but wonder about how much of these raves I've been hearing, like the Oscar talk and Golden Globe nominations, are because of the film's cinematic brilliance and how much are just because it's a film that endorses BLACK PEOPLE.

lol...I cannot believe that you consider me, one person on the internet that you don't even know, to be a bigot just because I personally disagree with BLACK PEOPLE. Wow, are you insecure.

Oh, cry me a river...you think you're so persecuted because once in a while, some ignorant jackass decides that he wants to beat some BLACK guy to death? Please.


... no further comment.

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[info]ol_whatsername
2006-01-08 06:23 am UTC (link)
So according to this posters logic QAF should have won tons of Emmys because of the gayness and The L Word is a shoe in for a ton of Emmys because of all the lesbians and all of the subtext in Xena should have won it tons of awards as well. The logic here doesn't compute, I thought a movie or show wins awards because its good not because it "promotes an agenda". That darn homosexual agenda is all powerful and commands that BBM win at the GG and the Oscars to further the agenda. This idiot sounds like my dad before he adjusted to me being one of those evil lesbians.

I'd almost like to see mole02's reaction to the trans storyline in the upcoming season of The L Word.

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(no subject) - [info]dragonkit, 2006-01-08 06:30 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]napoleon, 2006-01-08 08:54 am UTC
... - [info]ol_whatsername, 2006-01-08 09:03 am UTC
... - [info]panthea, 2006-01-09 07:35 am UTC
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[info]expeliarbum
2006-01-08 07:09 am UTC (link)
So disagreeing with homosexuality = not bigotry?

It's good to know-

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(no subject) - [info]loony666, 2006-01-08 07:32 am UTC

[info]elektra3
2006-01-08 07:42 am UTC (link)
Oh, cry me a river...you think you're so persecuted because once in a while, some ignorant jackass decides that he wants to beat some gay guy to death? Please.

Yeah, because it's not like people being beaten to death because of something they can't control is a PROBLEM or anything.

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[info]kami
2006-01-08 08:22 am UTC (link)
Wow, I totally missed the part where BBM specifically endorsed homosexuality. I guess it must have been all that stuff about being unhappy and living an unfulfilled and sad life. Because you know, never being able to be with the person you are in love with is totally a glowing endorsement.

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[info]massromantic
2006-01-08 08:51 am UTC (link)
Oh, those big babies, getting all worked up about the possibility of being beaten to death! I'm sure he faces similarly frightening oppression, such as having to deal with people praising gay movies on the internet. OMG his pain!

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[info]suzycat
2006-01-08 09:17 am UTC (link)
I'd have a lot more respect for moleman if he just came out and said "I am physically attracted to men and women but have chosen to go out with only women because I think Teh Gay is a sin."

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(no subject) - [info]oxydosic, 2006-01-09 05:17 am UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2006-01-08 09:48 am UTC (link)
I hope the term "gay cowboy wanking" can one day mean something more than this repetetive crap.

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(no subject) - [info]wildelamassu, 2006-01-08 10:19 am UTC
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[info]kahrohseh
2006-01-08 10:52 am UTC (link)
Get this guy out of my career interest.

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