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Jon "Bad Wasabi" Wood ([info]mcity) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-01-27 09:11:00


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Entry tags:elitism, videogames

Halo 2 Wank
Recently, HBO, arguably the world's most popular Halo fansite, linked an obscure gaming blog known as Tied the Leader. The authour is self-confessedly a Halo 2 fanboy. Pawing back through the archives, I discover a post with 92 comments, compared to the blogs usual, oh, two.

"Bungie. Smarter Than You."
This post is the single farthest I have ever seen anyone go just to say "STFU" and Reducto Ad Nitpicker. (admittedly, some of the complaints he quotes are ridiculous, such as blaming Bungie for the fact that a controller thrown 'cross a room will break) The comments are all either "I agree" or "ur wrong". A good number of them seem to come from Halo2Sucks, a website mentioned prominently in the article.

It is apparent to most now that the level of skill involved in Halo: Combat Evolved was a fluke. The spawn weapon that was your only hope against someone with a power weapon (rocket or sniper) was never intended to be what it was. Three shot kills! Oops - Now you’re not automatically dead if you spawn next to someone with a rocket! Evidenced by the fact that your first weapon in Slayer Pro was the Assault Rifle, Bungie apparently intended Halo C/E to be the spray and pray game that Halo 2 is designed to be. The pistol was simply overlooked (Quote Bungie: “Pistol sniping whores!”).
Listen to me: BATTLE RIFLE.

Good thing for us. Good thing for Bungie. Everyone knows Halo C/E would have never had the staying power that it did (and still does) without the pistol.
And here we are, over a year after H2 was released, and it has been on top of XBox Live for how much of that time?
Tournaments would have never been held, LANs would have been few and far between, and hardly anyone would know what XBC was. I can just picture the Ogre twins running around spraying players with an AR on Hang ‘Em High at MLG, and game after game of Blood Gulch on XBC with Plasma Pistols.

So you’re Bungie, you don’t intend to create the near perfect game of Halo, but you do. And unless your stupid, after 3 years you have to have some sort of clue of what made it so great. You now have a Working Formula. Now, Halo 2 proponents say, “Bungie never intended for Halo C/E to be such a skillful game so you are stupid to complain about Halo 2, which is what Bungie intended for Halo to be anyway.” This is just brilliant. So, Bungie stumbles across greatness by sheer luck, and they should neglect the greatness and go back to plan A for the sequel???

Using this logic, we can assert that Christopher Columbus should have turned right back around when he landed in the Americas. "Wow! Fertile soil, beautiful land, and wonderful opportunities! But, then again, I was never looking for this land in the first place. Let’s all go back, not tell anyone about it, and just start trying to circle the globe again (Plan A)". Good thing Columbus didn’t work for Bungie.
what

If you've been reading carefully, you'll note that they ignored the entire reason the Pistol was switched out; n00bs weren't using it, ditching it for the assault rifle. Speaking of which, I've barely played H1, and on one occasion I charged a guy with a rocket launcher and took him out with said rifle about two seconds before the match ended.* My point? The AR is remarkably underrated, and the battle rifle is only slightly weaker than the pistol.
In short, they're basically Halomians. Their website contains such gems as this, which purportes to be from a former Bungie consultant. I'm not sure if it's a parody or serious. The forum has a post wherin a guy figures out that the game sucks from playing it once. Also, Halo 2 is dead. It's the weapons! It's not the fact that I suck! Honest! And an entire subforum more.

From the replies on the TtL post;

Halo 2 fans:
Imagine that. A game that rewards the player for being smart. Here's an idea! Learn to counter the weapons! The OP speaks! It's a slippery slope, man! Um, you've started a war. "LT Colonel Halo Hater, Sir." is now in my vocabulary.


H2S:
Having to find good weapons and make do with one's spawns=weapon whoring. Dual weilding=easy kill. Not what they wanted=bad. Pardon me while I miss the point. I call you on your error while missing the larger point! Ur a moran! H2S is t3h revolution! Halo 2 would be good if it were the first in a series.

Neutral:
STOP WANKING. Look! I can use latin! This post seems to have been written about another fandom entirely (*cough*PrinceOfPersia*cough*). I'm sorry, I seem to have lost my point.

Dramatic Reading forthcoming.
EDIT: Dramatic reading of the H2S SoI done. Can anyone torrent it? Knowing F_W, Yousendit will drop the file by nightfall.

*Bragging? Where?


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Erm..
(Anonymous)
2006-01-27 06:23 pm UTC (link)
Every link after "Bungie. Smarter Than You." Links to the same page. You have to scroll or go to the next page to go to where your links are pointing. I'm not sure how to link to something that's on the same page but scrolled down a bit, though, so I'm not really helping, am I.

Yeah. Sorry.

- PDHM Mouse

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Re: Erm..
[info]mcity
2006-01-27 08:32 pm UTC (link)
The problem seems to be on Blogger's end; the links I used are supposed to take one to specific comments.

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At last...
[info]dragonchan
2006-01-27 06:46 pm UTC (link)
...now I can finally say 'Get out of my fandom, you're making my fandom look stupid.'

But pistol wank is nothing new. ...Wait. That just sounds... argh.

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[info]theamazingrando
2006-01-27 07:06 pm UTC (link)
suppressio veri, suggestio falsi (the suppression of the truth is the suggestion of falsehood)

Huh. Nothing says "pretentious" like random Latin in a debate over a video game.

Is that even accurate? The only Latin I know is the dog-Latin favoured by PTerry.

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[info]mael
2006-01-27 07:44 pm UTC (link)
It's a quote lawyers use, mostly. The Latin's accurate, it's just... trite.

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[info]theamazingrando
2006-01-27 11:53 pm UTC (link)
Ah, thank you. f_w can be so educational.

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[info]nights_mistress
2006-01-28 02:19 am UTC (link)
That's not trite. Being forced to use "inter alia" rather than "on the other hand" -- that's trite!

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[info]nlb_muffin
2006-01-27 07:23 pm UTC (link)
Halo and</a> Halo 2 suck horribly.

But I developed that opinion when I figured out that I sucked horribly at playing them.

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[info]nlb_muffin
2006-01-27 07:23 pm UTC (link)
I also suck horribly with italics tags. ^_~

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[info]the_crawford
2006-01-27 09:32 pm UTC (link)
*falls madly in love with your icon*

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[info]yaoiko
2006-01-27 11:00 pm UTC (link)
Heee, Leon. He needed to get molested in that game, seriously.

~Emi

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[info]nlb_muffin
2006-01-28 05:13 am UTC (link)
That is totally NOT what I was thinking the whole time I was fighting that psycho burly guy before I died tonight. *shifty eyes*

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[info]yaoiko
2006-01-28 06:27 am UTC (link)
He seriously needs to shack up with Luis. He's just too pretty. Luis/Leon/Ashley....mm...

~Emi

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[info]nlb_muffin
2006-01-28 07:32 am UTC (link)
Or get pounced by Ada. (That scene did not happen in a bedroom by accident, man.) They have a history, right? I only played Claire's scenario in RE2. >_>

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[info]the_crawford
2006-01-28 11:05 am UTC (link)
Yea, Ada was in Leon's scenario. A vast improvement over Sherry, IMHO, since Ada carried a gun and shot right along with you.

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[info]athenaps
2006-01-28 09:30 am UTC (link)
That 'dramatic reading' was painful.

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[info]mcity
2006-01-30 01:30 am UTC (link)
I could've done it better, but I'm still self-flagellating for wanking back when I first joined JF. Heck, I even tore myself a new one in my Wiki entry.

[/self-esteemIssuesOutThe WhooHaa]

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Um, Hello
(Anonymous)
2006-01-28 11:31 pm UTC (link)
Hey, I'm a member of H2S who happens to like Halo 2. I know the site may seem like a lot of fan wank, but it does bring up some good points. The game wasn't as good as I thought it was going to be, and it is a lot easier to weapon whore in Halo 2 than it was to in Halo CE. But 2 has live. Also another thing is yes the BR is the pistol, but many playlists don't start with the damn and instead use the weak SMG. While I disagree with some ShakeR's comments, most of site if you went to it, is pretty reasonable.

Another thing is if you are looking for a good source of wank, check to see what happens when you mention H2S on Bungie.net. That will rile up the fanboys. The people B.net are far more foolish than those on H2S.

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Re: Um, Hello
(Anonymous)
2006-01-28 11:35 pm UTC (link)
Also, to the opening poster, most people on H2S contest that the SMG be dropped in favor of the original Assualt Rifle. Also, they don't like how DWing droped many weapons power. Also the think the good ol Plasma Rifle should boosted in power since the thing is now useless by itself.

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Re: Um, Hello
[info]mcity
2006-02-04 06:29 pm UTC (link)
There are some quotes of questionable validity from a Bungie employee stating that the SMG is the AR with changed "data and tags".

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Re: Um, Hello
(Anonymous)
2006-01-29 05:50 pm UTC (link)
I wish I had better connections to get into custom games. Starting with the SMG is suck. I'd enjoy H2 about 500 times more immediately.

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(Anonymous)
2006-01-30 07:19 pm UTC (link)
>> Also another thing is yes the BR is the pistol, but many playlists don't start with the damn and instead use the weak SMG.

Right. And starting with it on one vs. one where someone can spawn rape you the same as a sniper-rifle.

The only problem with Halo 2 is that it has shitty spawn points, not the weapons. If Bungie had fixed the spawn points to where they aren't in the middle of a battle, it would be fine. That and lower the weapon respawn time. It seems no matter what you do, if someone camps the power-weapons, it's all over.

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