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Dani ([info]hypno_jango) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-02-05 01:06:00


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Entry tags:anime/manga, cons, conspiracy theories, fanart, illegality, internet lawyers, persecution

ANN never disappoints
From Mousy on Wank_Report:

So, Anime News Network posts a piece of news titled "NEWS: Otakon Enforces Copyright at Artists' Alley"

On the forums, fans quickly jump to conclusions and voice their various opinions on the topic ("various" meaning "omfg how can they!" and "finally someone did the right thing to those suckers!"). As usual, suddenly everyone's a lawyer, quoting Wikipedia and various trusted and not-so-trusted sources, and of course it's complete with people with attitudes: "I've been in the fandom longer than you so I'm right and you're wrong" (Colonel Wolfe) and "I write for quasi-famous online magazines so I can look down on you" (Zac). People are accusing Otakon with selling out.

Even some real VIPs pipe in:

http://animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=240315#240315

http://animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=240322#240322

http://animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=240127#240127

And then, Colonel Wolfe posts a looong article titled 'Bloatacon' taken from another website which is apparently "incorrect in many ways".

The owner of the website the article is quoted from shows up who is apparently dedicated to spread the word about the great "injustice that is being committed against fanartists". Posts are being edited.

In the meanwhile, Otakon issues an official statement regarding the problem - it only stirs up more trouble, as it turns out, as people are now accusing Otakon with wishy-washying and trying to divert attention from the problem. In the end, Colonel Wolfe comes up with a shocking conspiration theory.

And it's still going. (Provided that the mods don't lock the thread or delete it.)



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[info]beccastareyes
2006-02-05 09:35 am UTC (link)
I remember seeing this on the webcomics LJ comm (can deliver up links, if you like) -- someone was pissed on it, and was complaining about the ANN forums misquoting him/her last I heard.

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[info]wrongly_amused
2006-02-05 09:46 am UTC (link)
I can understand where the fanartists are coming from, but at the same time, y'know...it is illegal.

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[info]redjackcash
2006-02-05 10:22 am UTC (link)
That is pretty much how I feel. Yeah, I can understand their feelings, but it's not like they can't keep making the art - they just have to stop selling it.

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I've never understood art commissions as a general thing - [info]redjackcash, 2006-02-05 06:31 pm UTC
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(Anonymous)
2006-02-06 12:59 am UTC (link)
I blame Disney for this beaten dog attitude I'm seeing.

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[info]annabelle_lee
2006-02-05 12:17 pm UTC (link)
Oh yes, Colonel Wolfe is usually in the thick of everything when it comes to wank. He's like the shameless, crazy hobo that sits on the street and masturbates as people try their damndest to avoid him.

As for Zac, every time I see his posts, I hear them being read by George Bush, who sounds like the parents of the Peanuts kids.

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[info]polemic
2006-02-05 07:10 pm UTC (link)
I wonder how long you would have to squeeze Colonel Wolfe to get all of that hot air out of him.

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[info]shun_mcdaddy
2006-02-06 01:43 am UTC (link)
As for Zac, every time I see his posts, I hear them being read by George Bush, who sounds like the parents of the Peanuts kids.

*ROTFL*

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Actually....
(Anonymous)
2006-02-06 01:48 am UTC (link)
He does have the right of it though in that the con staff IS actually back pedaling. I've been watching this doohickey unfold for a couple of days now on the Otakon Board. While they claim that the original post was not meant to be an official policy because it wasn't posted at the site. However, the thread's original thread was marked "Official Policy Changes". Period. But apparently everybody was "confused". So the thread name was changed, some are locked, comments have been bahleeted and so on. And the story has changes some 6 odd times.

Wanna watch the action as it unfolded? The main thread is still there on the Otakon boards, but locked. You all can see artists go from hhmmmmm... to questioning and concerned to just downright pissed off. Also watch as the AA DH holds firm, reveals her personal trauma about her Church Puppet Show Fanficed, then passes the buck about making the whole con adhere to this policy to the other department heads. And then top it ALL off as the Con Chair contradicts everything the AA DH says, sideways-accuses all fanartists of being plagiarizers, bootleggers, profiteers and liars (when it costs an artists over 100 bucks to sit in thier alley), and generally snarking at anybody and everybody who disagrees with their ideas - fans, fanartists, original artists and pro artists alike!

The site is: http://board.otakon.com/viewtopic.php?t=7622 You do have to register to get in though.

Have fun!

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Re: Actually.... - [info]annabelle_lee, 2006-02-06 06:55 am UTC

[info]pauraque
2006-02-05 01:06 pm UTC (link)
"Oh noes, I can't keep making money illegally" = "injustice". Interesting logic!

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-05 09:01 pm UTC (link)
Actually, with the cost of the table, transportation, rooming, and art supplies, I don't think the artists are making that much money. Less out of their pocket for the con itself, but less time to enjoy stuff.

~Anonomouse Aya

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[info]smo
2006-02-05 03:20 pm UTC (link)
*loves on the guy from Dark Horse Comics*

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-05 04:43 pm UTC (link)
From Carl Horn's post:
From the perspective of the ailing American comics industry, one cannot help but note that Comiket, a fan convention, is several times the size of the San Diego Comic-Con, the U.S.'s largest pro convention. (Emphasis mine)

That blows me away. That just... DUDE... I mean, we've got a much bigger population and (I woulda thought) probably the same ratio of artists to people who don't draw or write. That would mean we *should* have a much bigger industry/conventions. Just about everything about else in this country is supposed to be bigger than what they got in Japan anyway. Does a less uptight attitude towards copyright make that much of a difference (assuming that the majority of those doujinshi are fan art)?

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[info]sgtgeorgecarter
2006-02-05 04:51 pm UTC (link)
Knowing about this somewhat...

Otakon has been under increasing pressure to remove copyright infringers from the Con.
Everywhere.

They have been cracking down on the dealers and will continue to do so. Now they are cracking down on the fanartists.

This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone as it has been steadily happening since they moved to the BCC. As I understand it, It's part of the BCC contract, not because they don't like the fanartists...

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-05 05:09 pm UTC (link)
Hey! I've heard of Otakon.


*does the dance of living under a rock*



(lj muppetfromhell)

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(no subject) - [info]majorburns, 2006-02-06 03:15 am UTC

[info]annepackrat
2006-02-05 06:13 pm UTC (link)
Okay, if Otakon is having so many problems with attendance cap at this location, then hey, WHY NOT GET A NEW LOCATION?! Downtown Baltimore several blocks from any of the con hotels and in the midst of horrible traffic congestion is not the best place for a con.

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[info]nlb_muffin
2006-02-05 06:46 pm UTC (link)
As much as I'd like to feel incredibly sorry for the fanartists, it's always been pretty clear to me that to attempt to sell fanfiction means sudden death. So welcome to the club. Tissue storage is to your left.

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[info]mister_terrific
2006-02-05 09:40 pm UTC (link)
I'm curious about something, but not nearly so curious as to dip my foot in that splooge.

At many comics conventions, it's simple to go up to an artist and ask for a sketch of a superhero. It doesn't even have to be one belonging to the company the artist works for. How does this differ from the anime artist alley situation?

Mister Terrific
Defender of Fair Play

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-05 10:19 pm UTC (link)
Could it just be oversensitivity to the word "copyright"?

Admittedly I'm not so familiar with the actual workings of "copyright" laws in the USA. Someone once tried to sue me for infringing on his rights and copyrights to my "image and manner of being". "WTF," I said. "I'm not giving you anything!" He forgot that I'm not American or even on American soil.

As I understand about copyright laws as pertaining to fandom in Asia, it is okay to make fan-works, as long as you make it clear that this is FAN-work, not your original creation. Whatever you create is copyrighted to YOU. So the picture you drew is yours, but the content is not. If the person who owns the content issues a statement that they do not want people making up fan-works about their stories or characters, you're out of luck and have to stop doing it or you'll face action. (But who'd want to shoot their own fanbase in the foot?)

The line falls between "merchandise" and "fanwork". A doujin is fanwork. A t-shirt with your favourite characters on it is merchandise. It is illegal to sell merchandise bearing copyrighted images without express permission from the artist. Technically, this means you can sell shirts with fanart on them if the artist gives you permission (and this is the root of the bootleg merchandise problem where every other shop by the side of the road can sell anime charactered t-shirts -- most of the images are faked, so while you and I know it shouldn't be allowed, it's still technically legal. Fun, right?).

But since it's quite a sticky situation, much like the "how do you tell a good CYOA fic from a bad on? Bah let's just ban them all" tactic of FFN, sale of merchandise is usually disallowed at cons, unless by a licienced dealer, ie, shops or corporations that have been given proper permission to distribute and sell official merchandise by the owning corporations.

You're morally allowed to make money off of fanwork in Asia. The main question is whether your "consumers" would allow you to. Generally, you're only allowed to "break even" on the sale and not "make a profit" (this is a business by-law, not copyright, since fan-artists/writers are often private basement operators) - however, this does not take donations into consideration. So, what some artists/writers do is they set a particular "cost price" for their work, and encourage those who feel they ought to pay more for it for whatever reason to donate the balance.

As such, when we discuss copyright infringement in Asia we're usually talking about ripping off actual things rather than just "the image of". For example, someone making illegal copies of official merchandise or dvds, or someone plagerising fanwork (*gasp* protection for FANartists/writers??!! How absurd!!!). In Singapore there is a push for copyrights to go in efect for cosplayers' images (this means that photographers cannot claim rights and ownership of the pictures they've taken of cosplayers under any circumstances).

But, that's Asia, where, admittedly, most major economies are based on bootlegging.


- Ruien (http://www.livejournal.com/~ruien)

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[info]oxydosic
2006-02-06 01:18 am UTC (link)
Making money off of someone's else intellectual property without permission = bad. It's pretty straightforward. I really can't find sympathy for the angry fanartists, considering they had to have known from the beginning that what they were doing was illegal. I write hot nasty manlove fanfiction but I'd never try to profit from it, because the characters are not mine to profit from.

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Why has my icon been so appropriate lately?
[info]nekoneko
2006-02-06 02:18 am UTC (link)
I think it sucks that they're cracking down on the fanart, but that's probably because one of my closest friends is a fanartist, and I helped her with her table at Otakon last year. It was a blast, although we wanted to strangle everyone who commented on the Demona fanart, exclaiming they couldn't believe that someone else watched the show... and then walked away. I wonder if outlawing certain types of fanart means that the cute buttons will be disappearing too. That'd suck.

I wonder if the artists alley will be taken over by people making clothing for Dollfies this year.

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Re: Why has my icon been so appropriate lately? - [info]emeralinedragon, 2006-02-09 12:49 am UTC
Re: Why has my icon been so appropriate lately? - [info]nekoneko, 2006-02-09 01:20 am UTC
Re: Why has my icon been so appropriate lately? - [info]emeralinedragon, 2006-02-09 01:33 am UTC

[info]ladyrogue
2006-02-06 02:51 am UTC (link)
Truly I don't care either way. Otakon has gotten way too big. Thus I prefer sticking to my small cons.

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[info]fevered_ego
2006-02-06 04:05 am UTC (link)
I've had series directors and voice actors would buy art of their characters and tell me to keep up the good work at the cons I've gone to as an artist.

Now, I'm still considering both viewpoints on whether selling fanart is bad or good, but I do know for certain that nobody is starving or dying of the gay just because somebody makes a keychain with a chibi on it.

In my own private hierarchy of Pressing World Affairs To Worry About, fanart falls somewhat between "Buildings fall over, people die" and "a tree falls in the forest, two squirrels very annoyed" in terms of severity.



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[info]darthmaligna
2006-02-06 05:21 am UTC (link)
A lot of people are up in arms over the supposed double-standard between charging for fic and charging for art, and I think we're looking at it from the wrong perspective. From what I've seen, most fan drawings sold at cons are commissioned; the money is not for the art itself, but rather for the time that it takes the artist to perform a particular service - namely, drawing exactly what the customer specifies for that particular customer. Most of the pre-done fanwork I've seen can't possibly be selling for much more than the cost of production and is along the lines of bookmarks and keychains because few people going to pay for a cheapo drawing of Goku when they can commission exactly what they want for a similar price.

Or to put it in different terms, I look at the fanwork thing the same way I look at what my tattoo artist does. I'm in the middle of getting what will eventually be extensive and very expensive Star Wars tattoos done at $110 an hour. My artist does not own Star Wars, but I'm paying him to draw the characters and whatnot anyway because he's performing a service specially for me and to my specifications.

And that's the big difference between fanfic and fanart - I've never come across any instance of commissioned fanfic, but if someone were to pay a writer to compose a story specifically outlined by the customer, I'd find it totally understandable. But even in that case I think that only the person commissioning the story should be the one paying; they're the one buying a service and getting what they want. And just as fanartists will put commissions they like up on DevArt, likewise ficcers should be able to post their commissioned fics as part of a portfolio. And of course, that never happens because most people tend to think that everyone's a unique snowflake writer.

On the other hand, I could totally understand a ban on, say, selling forty-five dollar prints of your awesum legolaz drawign omg!!! That's getting out of line, and usually makes me a bit irritable. (Except when I went to artists room at the Star Wars Celebrations and saw ridiculously-priced prints being sold at a con being run by the actual owners of the franchise. Then I just had to scratch my head in awe of the fact that Lucas has so much money he can just let his fans run wild.)

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-06 09:14 am UTC (link)
In U.S. copyright laws, derivative works which fan art and fan fiction fall into are controlled and enforced by the copyright holder.
Let's see, got some links around somewhere:

Heavy duty reading at http://www.copyright.gov

http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

http://www.kith.org/journals/jed/2005/11/07/3230.html

I can not remember where but there was a clause for illustrated art in that a specific number of copies limit and esentialy non-profit and you should cover your ass by getting permision. If I find that link I shall return.

WitcheryBitchery

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-02-06 01:04 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-02-06 10:42 am UTC (link)
This is only hearsay from friends of mine who either work backstage at Otakon, or are close friends with people who do, so I can't state it as a definite; I'm not an artist myself. But what I heard about this issue is that Otakon has been under no especial pressure from copyright holders, and that this new policy is the work of the new AA director with a personal agenda.

If anyone can disprove this theory, ie by citing an increase of complaints against Otakon by corporations or by personal contact with said AA director or with other Otakon officials, I welcome you to do so. But I thought I'd mention it, since it hadn't been brought up before.

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(no subject) - [info]darthmaligna, 2006-02-06 01:45 pm UTC
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