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go to sleep to the rhythm of the war drums ([info]ironymaiden) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-02-19 15:30:00


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Wank in the BJD Fandom, cleanup on aisle 4!
Ohhh, doll fandom. How you DRIVE ME BANANAS.

You see, in the Ball-Jointed Doll fandom (and probably in the jrock fandom as well, though I'm not a part of that one), there are lots of people who fetishize Nazis, especially the uniforms. Nazi uniforms are also apparently very popular in Asia, and as such, many doll companies have made very Nazi-esque uniforms [for example, see this outfit, made by the company Souldoll: here]. These sorts of outfits cause all sorts of firestorm arguments, and as such, major doll board Den of Angels has banned discussion about Nazis. Den of Demons allows Nazi imagery with dolls, though that is not the main focus by any means.

This time, the offending company is Luts, a genial company with friendly staff and pretty clothes. However, they then made the "Officer K" outfit, seen here: Officer K Uniform

While lots of nazi fans drool over the outfit, other fans are very offended by it, including Mara (who, for the record, I agree with. The outfit is in bad taste and is offensive). She writes Luts a letter asking them to take it down, they reply and the outfit is no longer for sale. Over and done with, good triumphs, right?

WRONG.

About a week later, back up the outfit goes. Understandably, Mara is confused and upset, and posts on the Luts message board asking why. Here is the real wank:

Luts MB

The nazi supporters come out in full force, including such gems as:
"Do you boycott Hugo Boss because they designed the Nazi uniforms? I think the uniform Luts is offering is really handsome. I'd buy it if my boys were the type to wear uniforms."
"In no way is Luts promoting Nazism by serlling this outfit and if you bothered to look, the uniform is not accurate to the last detail. Just because something looks like it does not mean it's the genuine article. Sure, the hat and armband resemble it but the uniforn all together does not. This doesn't mean they support Nazis >>' take a breather and research 1st before you say things!"

And many others who claim "It's not a nazi uniform, the piping is the wrong color on the hat!" and "if there's no swastika, it's not a nazi uniform!"

Oh, Luts. You shouldn't have made that outift.

Edit: Links fixed. I'm disappointed! I expected at least ONE icon to be made. *sob*



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[info]vyazka
2006-02-20 02:06 am UTC (link)
You know, for as long as I've quasi-lurked around here, I still cannot believe that there are actual people, sitting behind actual computers, tightening their sphincters over dolls.

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your icon - (Anonymous), 2006-02-20 10:25 pm UTC
Re: your icon - [info]vyazka, 2006-02-21 01:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]spawn_of_kong, 2006-02-21 05:19 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2006-02-20 02:07 am UTC (link)
Upwards of $600 for a doll? Now that's offensive.

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[info]notjo
2006-02-20 02:12 am UTC (link)
....

......


............

The piping is the wrong colour on the hat?

May I ask why anyone is paying that much attention that they *noticed*? I mean, I can't tell you what colours were on a nazi uniform, but I know what one looks like...

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-02-20 03:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darthmaligna, 2006-02-20 05:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]greenling, 2006-02-20 05:39 am UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-02-20 07:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]suzycat, 2006-02-20 06:05 am UTC
Indeed. - (Anonymous), 2006-02-24 09:09 pm UTC

[info]rotten_fish
2006-02-20 02:13 am UTC (link)
::facepalm::

WHY.

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fuzzy_ears
2006-02-20 02:19 am UTC (link)
Wow... just wow.

Somewhere on the internet, there must be a fandom for LINT.

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(no subject) - [info]cornedbee, 2006-02-20 02:33 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]doomsday, 2006-02-20 02:34 am UTC
Yes indeed - [info]leto, 2006-02-20 02:38 am UTC
Re: Yes indeed - [info]hitchhiker42, 2006-02-20 06:24 am UTC
Thanks - [info]leto, 2006-02-20 02:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-02-20 09:24 pm UTC

sharonapple
2006-02-20 02:22 am UTC (link)
Woohoo, an icon doubly appropriate for this wank! Yes, ahem. Anyways,
I'm going to have to echo [info]rotten_fish's sentiments on this one.

WHY?!

*cries in a corner*


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[info]princessdot
2006-02-20 02:23 am UTC (link)
[pssst, can ya wrap the links? it's a bit hard to read ;) ]

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[info]picot
2006-02-20 02:24 am UTC (link)
I thought "BJD" was about Bridget Jones's Diary.

Am so naive.

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[info]hobbitsexual
2006-02-20 02:32 am UTC (link)
what is the connection between collecting Ball-Jointed Dolls and having a Nazi fetish?

Why is it that so many who love these dolls, also love Nazis? How do the two align within their brains?

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(no subject) - [info]doomsday, 2006-02-20 02:37 am UTC
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[info]kalika_maxwell
2006-02-20 02:33 am UTC (link)
That uniform is so pretty. I don't dress half as good as those dolls. Jeans and t-shirts for me, yay!

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(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2006-02-20 03:28 am UTC

[info]nlb_muffin
2006-02-20 02:45 am UTC (link)
Rinoa: And Connie, you posting them pictures is a disgrace and disgusting, stop playing with people's emotions and telling them the uniform is wrong just because you are offended.

Yeah, Connie! Don't offend the people who are annoyed that you're offended!

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(no subject) - [info]hyaenid, 2006-02-20 04:09 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2006-02-20 02:50 am UTC (link)
... I know we're all about mockery here and not taking teh internets seriously. But this "nazi fetish" thing is making my blood run a wee bit chilly.

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[info]radiotrash
2006-02-20 02:52 am UTC (link)
*busts out icon specifically reserved for BJD wank*

My fandom, how wanky art thou.

I like the part where someone links american police uniforms and say they look more similar then a nazi uniform.

....*thunk* (That 2S so does not give it away, noooooooo)

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(no subject) - [info]sparkle_bitch, 2006-02-20 04:21 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2006-02-20 02:54 am UTC (link)
and probably in the jrock fandom as well

Yep, definately in the jrock fandom as well. ^^;;;

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[info]tachikoma01
2006-02-20 02:58 am UTC (link)
Don't forgot the recent wank about people using the "Volks Elitist" icon with the KKK figure in the background.

Because showing how you're not afraid to claim you're better than everyone else is cool these days.

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[info]funkyhelix
2006-02-20 03:25 am UTC (link)
Heh. Every time someone uses an icon of that kid from School of Rock, I startle. I taught him. He was in my fourth grade library class the year he made the film.

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[info]khym_chanur
2006-02-20 03:26 am UTC (link)
Like someone else said recently on JF, it's too bad that the Nazi's had to design and wear those uniforms, thus giving the design taint-by-association, because the design are really spiffy.

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[info]gloria_mundi
2006-02-20 03:29 am UTC (link)
This is exactly why Cosplayers scare me. I joined an Hp Cosplay community once on a whim and the obsessiveness of people just . . . Ahhhhh!

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[info]sennet
2006-02-20 03:40 am UTC (link)
Am I the only one here who finds the whole bondage Nazi look more hilarious than the actual wank?

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[info]youcuntface
2006-02-20 03:48 am UTC (link)
Duh. Everyone knows that the Nazis had great-looking uniforms. However, it gets a little problematic when your friends come over for dinner and you have to say, "Oh yeah! That's my doll collection! And here are my Nazi dolls!"

Then your friends ask, "Why do you have Nazi dolls?" And then you have to explain and defend yourself and your dolls, and then everyone gets all uncomfortable...

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OMG - [info]life_on_mars, 2006-02-20 08:38 am UTC
Re: OMG - [info]youcuntface, 2006-02-22 03:05 am UTC

[info]chaimonkey
2006-02-20 03:48 am UTC (link)
It's amazing how much people will rationalize just to avoid a guilt trip.

Also, the point about the company needing to put up a Japanese WWII uniform was a damn good one, imo.

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[info]cleolinda
2006-02-20 03:51 am UTC (link)
And many others who claim "It's not a nazi uniform, the piping is the wrong color on the hat!" and "if there's no swastika, it's not a nazi uniform!"

But... there IS a swastika on the uniform. On the shorts, in the middle of the square cross thingy. I don't know how I noticed it, but... interestingly, the doll's hand covers it up in the second picture.

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-20 03:58 am UTC (link)
... Is it bad that, when I looked at the uniforms, I was wondering how people thought they looked like Nazi uniforms? They look nothing like them, to me, save for that shoulder-band thing. (It looks more like a naval uniform to me...). And the one with bitch-boots and bitty shorts looks even less like a uniform.

Then again, I didn't notice the swaztika someone else pointed out.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-02-20 09:14 pm UTC

[info]jenny_atrox
2006-02-20 04:03 am UTC (link)
Man, I just can't get doll fandom. I like toy, alot. But I just can't understand the level of dedication.

And uniform feitishes escape me completely. Seriously, do not see the sexy in uniforms. Ecpect Catholic schoogirl uniforms. They have a lot of sexy.

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(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2006-02-21 01:12 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-02-20 04:17 am UTC (link)
Nazi uniforms are kinda spiffy looking.

But you know the history behind them should make you stop and think "Hey, maybe this isn't particularly appropriate for my bug eyed monstrosity BJD to be wearing, considering what that uniform symbolizes." For the same reason you wouldn't put your ridiculously expensive precious Dolfie in a slightly different version of a KKK outfit or buy them a mini pickup and put a Confederate flag in the back window.

(Btw, I kid. I think BJDs look pretty cool, just not ~1,000$ worth of cool...)

-- musouka

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