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NM ([info]narcissam) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-02-21 07:57:00


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As An Ex-Satanist, I Ship H/Hr
So you've heard about parents concerned over witchcraft in HP. But what about the parents concerned their kids might pick up bad shipping?

Hermionepotter.net is back up. One of the first essays posted there is entitled Through a Parent's Eyes and explains why the Ron/Hermione relationship makes the series inappropriate reading for children. Dementor 149 read the series to see if it was appropriate for her son and was delighted at the H/Hr modelling he would receive. However, when she found out it was going R/Hr, she realized the dangers the series posed to children.

Why did I spend so much time on the relationships within the story? I feel, as a parent, that stories geared for younger audiences need to have healthy lessons on life built into them. Authors that write for young people should be held to a higher standard than those who write for more mature people. Young teens need to read things that will reinforce the moral lessons that are being taught by their parents. Stories engage us on many levels, open our minds to new ideas and increase our understanding. They serve us with examples of the way we should behave and how the world works. I want my son to read things that will help him understand the way the world works. I had hoped that he might find some of that in the Harry Potter books. As an ex-Satanist I appreciate the innocence of her magic in the series. Now that I am a Christian I appreciate the Christian symbology and for the most part the good, moral behavior of her characters. Where she has shown that her characters make mistakes I have an opening for discussion and an opportunity to teach. It is only at the point of the relationship issues that I fear Rowling may be making a mistake that I cannot justify to my self and use her story text to teach what I want for my son to know.

We are bombarded on every hand by television and movies with stories that show people who bicker and fight. The producers of these stories are using sex to sell their stories and power their ratings. We are taught that it means they really like each other, and the way to get over it is to jump into bed with each other. We are taught that opposites attract. The unfortunate result of these lessons is a divorce rate that is over fifty percent.

The truth is relationships are built on things we, as couples, have in common. While our differences make us grow and stretch it is our common interests and commitment to a partner that keep us together. In my own life I have had both kind of relationships. The relationship I built with my friend has succeeded. The bickering one did not. It failed because in the end there was no common ground to hold it together or the desire to continue the endless rounds of hurt and misunderstanding. My own real life experience has little bearing on a story. However it does color my understanding of the dynamics of the characters, and for the story to have relevance, the characters must behave in a way we understand.

I had hoped that Rowling would be different. She would say something about love growing from positive things like gratitude, kindness, caring, a willingness to sacrifice for another person, and common interests. It now appears, judging from her interview, she is going along with all the cliché relationships we are bombarded with incessantly. It is a shame really. In a world growing ever darker and more selfish the kind of love Harry and Hermione might have shared would have been truly magical.


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Caina - February 18, 2006
Dementor149, as you know, this is one of my favorite essays. It's very well thought-out and articulated. It gives voice to a lot of what so many of us feel. Thanks for writing it, and thank you very much for submitting it.


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LawOfJude - February 20, 2006
I've never read such an amazing essay and it moved me almost to tears by it's raw truth. It puts into words all the things I have been feeling since the release of HBP and The Interview. I truely thought JK would be the exception to the rule and that she would write the kind of love we know does exist and should be put in the spotlight. Worst of all, it only took a matter of minutes for her to alienate a large portion of her very loyal readership and she doesn't seem to care. Thank you for writing an amazing essay that speaks so much truth. Just thank you, for putting into words what so many of us feel.


ETA: I've just realized where I've seen Dementor149 before. She's the Harmonian who suggested HBP sucked because JKR was pregnant when writing it. I referenced her in this report on [info]clairvoyantwank. Besides being an ex-Satanist, Dementor149 also claims to be a Correctional Officer at Louisiana State Penitentiary. There's something creepy about that, dementors guarding American prisons.

ETA2: [info]farmercuerden reports this comment : Tora1 - February 21, 2006
As a parent myself, I applaude you for your essay. It was beautifully written and speaks such an amazing truth! I know all to well how our curent pop culture affects our youth. My daughter recently ended a relationship with her boyfriend of three years, only to turn around to date another boy. They two constantly bicker, I am so worried for her, she says she's in love. I only foresee a sad and lonely and painful future, rife with divorce. Thank you for this essay, I plan on showing it to my daughter!


"...She's going to show her daughter an anti-Ron/Hermione essay to show why she shouldn't be dating her current boyfriend. If only we could see that conversation."



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sharonapple
2006-02-21 05:12 pm UTC (link)
I have only one thing to say to this: WHYYYY?

Okay, now that that's done, I guess I have to keep the promise I made in the last H/Hr wank.

*turns into a ghost and haunts people crazy fans*

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[info]drakyndra
2006-02-21 05:16 pm UTC (link)
Is it just me, or is the concept of an "ex-Satanist" shipping Harmony completely and utterly hilarious?

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[info]jadefox
2006-02-21 05:18 pm UTC (link)
first of all, miss parent, i'd like to introduce you to something your son will most likely be needing in his real life: grammar and punctuation. doesn't hurt to put quotes and to check your spelling - it actually helps to communicate your point better, wot?

except...WHAT was your point again?

gosh, i should be getting so tired of all the 'we read the subtext-we're cooler-WE'RE NOT DELUSIONAL HERE'S WHY' kvetching on these shippers' part, but i'm not.

if this were my mum, i think i'd tell her i can draw my own bloody conclusions kthxbai.

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[info]smo
2006-02-21 05:20 pm UTC (link)
Did she miss the part in OotP where Harry was screaming at Hermione on a regular basis? Like, all of them?

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-21 05:20 pm UTC (link)
Because teaching kids that you are never going to fight or disagree with your one true love will make them so much more likely to have a successful relationship. If you really love someone, you will never fight with them, and if you do, it means that they're probably the wrong person for you. Showing kids couples that are capable of having fights and resolving them peacefully is bad role-modeling and should be stopped.

/sarcasm

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pink_lightning
2006-02-21 05:20 pm UTC (link)
Wait, what does anything she wrote have to do with R/Hr? O.o

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[info]stella_polaris
2006-02-21 05:20 pm UTC (link)
Would that be a Satanist or a Satan's worshipper? As far as I know, they mean two different things. If she says "Satanist" and means "Satan's worshipper", she obviously was a very bad little Satshipper, if she doesn't even know what it's called.

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-21 05:22 pm UTC (link)
Woooooo! Satan!

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[info]llama_treats
2006-02-21 05:31 pm UTC (link)
So, the upshot of her argument is that everyone should marry their clone, as long as no embryos were harmed in the process.

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[info]ladylance
2006-02-21 05:34 pm UTC (link)
My head just went 'splodey.

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[info]darkeyes
2006-02-21 05:34 pm UTC (link)
They...They just keep getting crazier! How is that even possible? HOW !?!

I would have thought they'd have leveled off by now, (not stopped mind you, just that they'd run out of new ways to express their OMGOPPRESSION!), but no they just keep finding newer, bigger, more cracktastic ways to bring the crazy!

It'd be amazingly beautiful, if it wasn't so very scary.

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[info]rotten_fish
2006-02-21 05:35 pm UTC (link)
Countdown to mousies whinging about NM's "grudgewank" and cries of oppression, 1... 2... 3...

TL;TD

So, basically, R/Hr is corrupting young people and breaking apart the very bond between parents and their children. Good to know.

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[info]mouseybrown
2006-02-21 05:35 pm UTC (link)
As an ex-Satanist I appreciate the innocence of her magic in the series.

Is that the innocent magic of the Killing Curse, the torture curse, or the mind control curse?

Now that I am a Christian I appreciate the Christian symbology and for the most part the good, moral behavior of her characters.

Would that be the good and moral behaviour of disobeying school rules, having flaming rows with your best mate for no good reason, being a priggish little madam, whipping out Unforgiveables and using some really nasty spells just to see what happens or the host of other shitty, petty little things that Harry and Co have done over the years?

Just curious ...

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-21 05:39 pm UTC (link)
H/Hr or R/Hr, it matters very little in this case. Her son's gay anyway, if he's reading Harry Potter. Real men read Lord of the Rings. South Park taught me so.

Ani Mouse

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[info]phosfate
2006-02-21 05:42 pm UTC (link)
I must have missed the bits where Ron and Hermione have absolutely nothing in common.

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[info]rosina_alcona
2006-02-21 05:42 pm UTC (link)
as a child reader/tv watcher, I heartily resented any book or tv programme that sneakily tried to teach me how to be good. I was very miffed at discovering the Christian symbolism in the narnia books, and always hated the bit at the end of He-Man and Thundercats when they gave you a 'message'.

Sod off! Give me Roald Dahl and Dangermouse, and Ron/Hermione fighting any day of the week.

One of my favourite picture books when I was wee was about a girl who was very good and didn't raise her voice, or run in the corridor, and always pulled her socks up straight and ate her vegetables. And at the end of the book she got eaten by a crocodile - HAR HAR! I wish i could remember the name of it...

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[info]esclaramonde
2006-02-21 05:44 pm UTC (link)
*waits for the cries of "this isn't wank, it's just an essay!!1!"*

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[info]prettyveela
2006-02-21 05:48 pm UTC (link)
As an ex-Satanist I appreciate the innocence of her magic in the series.

alskf;asldfj;lsadfj;lasdfj;lasfjal;sfj
a;lfkja;sldfj;alsfj;lasjf;lajfa;ldfjl;d

Lucifer as the almightly supreme ruler of the earth is just fine for my children but R/Hr? Well you gotta draw the line somewhere!

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[info]nlb_muffin
2006-02-21 06:00 pm UTC (link)
We are bombarded on every hand by television and movies with stories that show people who bicker and fight. The producers of these stories are using sex to sell their stories and power their ratings.

WOW. I love that jump from Ron and Hermione arguing to R/Hr promoting sex among adolescents.

Really, though, this is just getting tiring. Gotta admire the stamina, though. I mean, when I contemplate HP, I usually think of baser things like, "What if in the GoF movie, they said 'screw it!' and had Voldemort show up during the Yule Ball and there was a huge battle with 'Ballroom Blitz' blaring in the background and Tia Carrere was there and everything?"

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-21 06:00 pm UTC (link)
Stories engage us on many levels, open our minds to new ideas and increase our understanding. They serve us with examples of the way we should behave and how the world works.

STAB. STAB STAB STAB.

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-21 06:08 pm UTC (link)
Oh, come on ! We all know she doesn't mean any of that crap she call an "essay". She's just bitter and angry because she "found out" (no shit, Sherlock!) that R/Hr was canon (when her son slowly explained it to her).

french_lurker at lj

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[info]theamazingrando
2006-02-21 06:13 pm UTC (link)
The relationship I built with my friend has succeeded. The bickering one did not. It failed because in the end there was no common ground to hold it together or the desire to continue the endless rounds of hurt and misunderstanding.

And if it didn't work for me, it won't work for anyone else ever.

The whole "ex-Satanist" thing makes me wonder if this is a troll, though.

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[info]isntitironic
2006-02-21 06:19 pm UTC (link)
At this point, I'm assuming that the entire 'Harmony' movement are trolls until proven otherwise.

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soula
2006-02-21 06:25 pm UTC (link)
We are bombarded on every hand by television and movies with stories that show people who bicker and fight.... We are taught that it means they really like each other.... The unfortunate result of these lessons is a divorce rate that is over fifty percent.

Kind of funny how, uh, Molly and Arthur seem to have stayed married for twenty or more years, despite the bickering and fighting that's supposedly such a bad example having shown up in pretty much every book except the first one.

And James and Lily? They had such a sweet, kind, mutually supportive relationship, didn't they. Except for the part where the only time we see them together in canon she's threatening to hex him (well, she is a redhead!). Good thing Voldemort killed 'em off early, because by Harmonian reasoning that marriage couldn't last, and we all know divorce is the end of the world. *bashes own head in with keyboard*

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[info]gmth
2006-02-21 06:28 pm UTC (link)
Where she has shown that her characters make mistakes I have an opening for discussion and an opportunity to teach. It is only at the point of the relationship issues that I fear Rowling may be making a mistake that I cannot justify to my self and use her story text to teach what I want for my son to know.

Um... how is the R/Hr relationship not a teachable moment, if this person doesn't agree with it? Funny how everything else s/he disagrees with is a chance for discussion with her child, but the OMGTRAVESTY that is R/Hr is beyond that, somehow.

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