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marsdragon ([info]marsdragon) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-02-25 11:01:00


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Entry tags:videogames

Nippon Ichi GameFAQs wank
Well, Disgaea 2 is coming out fairly soon (actually just came out in Japan though apparently the importers haven't gotten their copies yet/are too busy playing) and the fandom is wondering what exactly the game is going to be like. Discussions of mechanics, characters, and the latest news abound, though it stays reasonably polite (for GameFAQs).

Enter icyslash, who doesn't like powerleveling tricks and says that "They need to stop making glitches or ways for people to level insanely, because it hurts the value of the game."

People object, especially to the glitches comment. They try to get the real meaning of 'gitch' to icyslash, who counters with:

"In video games, a glitch is a term used by players to indicate a bug or programming error of some sort. It may refer to either a helpful or harmful error, but never an intended behavior.

Let me repeat it

but never an intended behavior
maybe you didn't hear me
Never an intended behavior

I got that from wikipedia by the way, well respected site."

(formatting his)

Posters try to explain that powerleveling tricks may not have been meant to be as exploitable as they are, but they're not glitches as they are just the natural expansion of the game engine, especially in Nippon Ichi games, where a good chunk of the point is to grind up to ridiculous levels to do ridiculous damage to ridiculously powerful bosses. icyslash stays immune to logic and keeps bringing up the idea of a trick in Makai Kingdom that apparently does not actually exist. Meanwhile the topic veers more into Phantom Brave and Makai Kingdom territory and away from Disgaea, which makes the whole thing a little more pointless.



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(Anonymous)
2006-02-26 05:44 am UTC (link)
"Some person also said that you could slow level as well as powerlevel.... and once again obviously you weren't listening. I said that I wish that powerleveling weren't there, and wouldn't have to be there at all if they made gaining exp a little more satisfactory."

"But MOMMY! MAKE everybody do it MY way!!!" [/icyslash]

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-26 05:45 am UTC (link)
I got that from wikipedia by the way, well respected site.


BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Does someone need to define what a wiki is for him? Maybe wikipedia can tell us...

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[info]the_mouse
2006-02-26 06:07 am UTC (link)
Actually, a recent blurb in Discover magazine reported that a panel of experts had gone through the site and declared it to be nearly as good as the Encyclopedia Britannica with regards to errors.

Yours,
The Mouse

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-26 07:10 am UTC (link)
Actually, I think that was only on math/science stuff. When it comes to video games/comic books, the articles usually lead to fanboy hair-splitting.

-'nother mousy

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Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]taiga_ameca, 2006-02-26 09:11 am UTC

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Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]justicepeckham, 2006-02-27 04:12 am UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]nicolae, 2006-02-27 04:14 am UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]justicepeckham, 2006-02-27 04:19 am UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]nicolae, 2006-02-27 04:21 am UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]justicepeckham, 2006-02-27 04:35 am UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]nicolae, 2006-02-27 04:38 am UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]tekenduis, 2006-02-26 03:15 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]iczer6, 2006-02-26 11:52 am UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]ashenmote, 2006-02-26 02:42 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]anatsuno, 2006-02-26 06:25 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]kadath, 2006-02-26 07:24 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]nebbieq, 2006-02-26 10:15 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]amxjm, 2006-02-27 10:09 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]anatsuno, 2006-02-27 10:28 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]amxjm, 2006-02-27 10:36 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]semtex, 2006-02-28 12:49 am UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]anatsuno, 2006-02-28 12:54 am UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]semtex, 2006-02-28 06:36 am UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]mrbimble, 2006-02-26 07:00 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]pokecheck, 2006-02-26 10:49 am UTC

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Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]semtex, 2006-02-26 03:38 pm UTC

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*ahem* - [info]semtex, 2006-02-26 03:55 pm UTC

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Did you feel that gust of wind? - [info]semtex, 2006-02-26 04:06 pm UTC

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,,,your sockpuppets, that is? - [info]semtex, 2006-02-26 04:20 pm UTC
Re: ,,,your sockpuppets, that is? - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2006-02-27 03:55 am UTC
XD ♥ - [info]semtex, 2006-02-27 07:27 am UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]scootermcgaffin, 2006-02-26 03:58 pm UTC
There's always room for kittens. - [info]semtex, 2006-02-26 04:07 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - (Anonymous), 2006-02-26 05:38 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]semtex, 2006-02-27 07:28 am UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]annabelle_lee, 2006-02-26 11:27 am UTC

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Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]semtex, 2006-02-26 03:44 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]scootermcgaffin, 2006-02-26 03:52 pm UTC
Nope. - [info]semtex, 2006-02-26 04:00 pm UTC
Re: Nope. - [info]scootermcgaffin, 2006-02-26 04:02 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]chikane, 2006-02-26 01:30 pm UTC

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Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]scootermcgaffin, 2006-02-26 04:00 pm UTC
Bitch PLEASE. - [info]semtex, 2006-02-26 03:51 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]chikane, 2006-02-26 05:10 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - (Anonymous), 2006-02-26 05:42 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]altoidsaddict, 2006-02-26 07:02 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]altoidsaddict, 2006-02-26 07:06 pm UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]apoplexia, 2006-02-27 12:44 am UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]tofuknight, 2006-02-27 01:07 am UTC
Re: FW WIKI = WANK - [info]tofuknight, 2006-02-27 01:08 am UTC
WIKI <> WIKIPEDIA - [info]msilverstar, 2006-02-26 08:21 pm UTC

[info]saintedsin
2006-02-26 10:28 am UTC (link)
Try listing Wiki as a source in your bibliography for any undergrad or graduate work and see how accepted and reliable that source is. :P

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-02-26 10:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]evanwaters, 2006-02-26 11:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]saintedsin, 2006-02-27 04:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]greenling, 2006-02-28 12:30 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-02-26 11:54 am UTC (link)
Nothing beats the Uncyclopedia ;) This entry being one of my favorites:
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Japan

It used to be a lot funnier until a few... tards thought they were witty enough to add more to it.

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(no subject) - [info]life_on_mars, 2006-02-26 05:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tofuknight, 2006-02-27 01:10 am UTC

[info]ninja_stripper
2006-02-26 07:00 am UTC (link)
Now I read through most of this... and ah... what is he arguing again?


Maybe he should sit down and play with something else for a while, like the outside.

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[info]chaootaku
2006-02-26 07:12 am UTC (link)
There's a few things that surprise me about this wank...

1. It took this long for Disgaea 2 to get here.
2. It's not "This is a sequel so it automatically SUCKS!".
3. Lovebug didn't start it.
4. There's no Akutare porn.

Okay so 4 doesn't surprise me as much as it dissapoints me.

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-26 07:27 am UTC (link)
Should I be wishing there was a number 4 on that list? *still needs to play it*

~darkstar02omega @ LJ

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[info]eclair
2006-02-26 03:37 pm UTC (link)
4. There's no Akutare porn.

Give it time, give it time...

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(no subject) - [info]taiga_ameca, 2006-02-26 03:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eclair, 2006-02-26 04:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]taiga_ameca, 2006-02-26 04:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eclair, 2006-02-26 11:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]taiga_ameca, 2006-02-27 12:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eclair, 2006-02-27 01:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]yaoiko, 2006-02-27 12:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eclair, 2006-02-27 12:18 am UTC
VxL, you say - [info]female_fanboy, 2006-02-27 06:45 am UTC
Re: VxL, you say - [info]yaoiko, 2006-03-01 01:20 am UTC

[info]hristaesir
2006-02-26 07:20 am UTC (link)
...what I want to know is why the hell he CARES if you can powerlevel in a SINGLE-PLAYER GAME. If he doesn't like power-levelling he shouldn't do it. It's not like anyone else in the universe's level in Disgaea has any effect on him whatsoever.

Now, if it were some online game, I could possibly understand why he could have a beef with that.

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[info]aerobot
2006-02-26 07:30 am UTC (link)
I totally admit to taking advantage of a glitch to help me beat a game.

That said, glitches can be really fun. Don't like using them? Then don't.

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-26 08:03 am UTC (link)
The Missingno glitch in Pokemon was a constant friend of mine.

-Seiberwing

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(no subject) - [info]taiga_ameca, 2006-02-26 08:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2006-02-26 11:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]justicepeckham, 2006-02-26 05:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dark_puck, 2006-02-27 02:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sadisticferret, 2006-02-27 06:54 am UTC

[info]scootermcgaffin
2006-02-26 07:31 am UTC (link)
Y'know, I agree with him in that I generally don't like to power level, especially not in grid based tactics games, which are repetitive enough in the first place. I also agree that Nippon Ichi's tactics games can be a bit too biased, with the assumption that you will be power leveling at one point or another.

You know what my solution is? I don't play Nippon Ichi tactics games.

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(Anonymous)
2006-02-26 07:34 am UTC (link)
A few excerpts from one of icyslash's posts:

wow you guys are quick to flame me huh. Here is what you don't realize.

[snip]

You guys are quick to respond but most of you didn't even read what I wrote, and it shows and I can tell.

[snip]

DID YOU GUYS LISTEN TO ANY OF WHAT i SAID?


He's like one of those that have to argue the point about everything so they can be attention whores. =/

nevermind the fact that I read all of his rants and actually said tl;dr through the whole thing. YAY CLARIVOYANTISM

~darkstar02omega @ LJ

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[info]taiga_ameca
2006-02-26 08:03 am UTC (link)
I shouldn't really comment, since I'm part of the wank... But damn did I really want to smack him with my dictionary about halfway through.

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[info]sarracenia
2006-02-26 08:31 am UTC (link)
Dude, levelling up is the most boring part of any video game. It's what made me keep a book with me whenever I played, so I could read while levelling up. Why would you object to something that let you level up more rapidly is something I can't understand.

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[info]kasuino
2006-02-26 04:37 pm UTC (link)
ZOMG IT'S CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEETEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEING THAT'S WHY!!!!!

*dead*

Maybe icyslash has no life, and needs something like leveling up to help pass the hours of boredom.

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(no subject) - [info]miss_arel, 2006-02-26 09:37 pm UTC

[info]justicepeckham
2006-02-27 12:31 am UTC (link)
That was always true for me, too. Well, except for the Xenosaga games, where the book I kept with me was for waiting for each screen to load.

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[info]saintedsin
2006-02-26 10:30 am UTC (link)
If only they put so much time and dedication into finding mistakes in their textbooks and complaining.

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BAW HAW HAW
[info]semtex
2006-02-26 03:31 pm UTC (link)
ZOMG I READ IT IN WIKIPEDIA SO IT MUST BE TRUE.
...
..
.
*snerk*

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sharonapple
2006-02-26 05:57 pm UTC (link)
Is it lame that I think I recognize where Geese911's sig comes from?

Oh MeltyBlood. How I love thee. And your wacky Engrish name...

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Damn am I dissapointed
[info]female_fanboy
2006-02-27 06:27 am UTC (link)
Geez. After a year or two, we finally get some Disgaea wank (as opposed to Disgaea porn, which is far more plentiful, but far less entertaining) and it's about the friggin' "glitch"!?

Oh, come on! Where's the Laharl/Etna vs. Laharl/Flonne 'shipper wars? Where's the pointless debates over Vyers' sexuality that devolve into homophobia and ad hominem attacks? And how the fuck has it not gotten pedophile wank yet?

*Sigh* Guess I'll just have to wait for the anime. Hopefully that will give the fandom the fuel they need

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Re: Damn am I dissapointed
[info]taiga_ameca
2006-02-27 10:18 pm UTC (link)
You missed a whle lot of Good Ending vs Normal Ending wank a few months ago for Disgaea 2.

But weirdly, we never had shipper wars... not even in fanfic reviews. And if you want pedophile wank, wrong N1 game. Try La Pucelle, it happens every once in a while.

(I just think that Disgaea is officially safe from pedophile wank as if somebody starts, the whole "But Laharl is the youngest and 1313 years old" argument starts.)

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Re: Damn am I dissapointed - [info]female_fanboy, 2006-02-28 01:16 am UTC
Re: Damn am I dissapointed - [info]taiga_ameca, 2006-02-28 04:28 am UTC
Re: Damn am I dissapointed - [info]female_fanboy, 2006-02-28 05:42 pm UTC


 
   
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