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secondarygain ([info]secondarygain) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-02-28 22:24:00


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Entry tags:bnf, fandom: hellsing

We All Can't Be Internet Famous
Bringing up certain topics is a no-no if you want to avoid wank. [info]sailorptah makes the following initial post in the Hellsing com on eljay:

"There's an interesting series of posts which [info]metafandom has been following, about the term "BNF." It stands for Big Name Fan, and was originally a complimentary term (for the fans who are especially well known in a given fandom), but to some it has changed into a derogatory term (for the fans who are so indiscriminately loved that they can start writing complete trash and their praises will still be sung).

I say this because I'd never heard the term used in Hellsing fandom (or any anime fandom, come to think of it; metafandom mostly focuses on Western fandoms, like Harry Potter, Firefly, Star Wars, etcetera), but it brings up an interesting question.

Who are the BNFs in Hellsing fandom? I mean BNF in the complimentary sense, as in: which people are, within the fandom, famous?

Thess, Pu-sama, and the Solid&Etc artist are the ones that immediately jump to mind. What say you?"



Sounds to me like someone is trying to get proclaimed a BNF for their efforts in the fandom. The responses to this post are varied. Some proclaim the poster a BNF, some other members of the com. Some call the poster out on her supposedly innocent intentions.

[info]sailorptah later edited the post to add (likely due to certain comments that she received):

"Edit: Mittsie, Dreadnot, and Red Anne Bonny have been mentioned. So has Blood Knight's Rip, who is definitely well-known, despite criticisms.

By the way, this is not the Official List of The Only People Who Matter In The Hellsing Fandom; this is not meant to allude to usage of the term BNF in the crazy, crazy HP fandom; and this is not being forwarded to government agents for use as evidence against you in the upcoming secret trials. Certainly not. Please put all such thoughts out of your minds ^_^"


Isn't it the mark of a BNF to proclaim ignorance at knowing what a BNF is?

ETA: Fandom Wank gets a baleeted shout out, and not surprisingly, [info]sailorptah's post was subsequently edited yet again to add:

"Edit 2: In the interest of having an objective discussion (and because I'm tired of being accused of ego-stroking), please do not mention me as a possible BNF. I'm not doing this because I'm hard up for a compliment; I'm doing it out of a genuine curiosity about the topic. So, talk about what fans are well known (or somewhat well known), talk about what makes them well known, talk about whether the term BNF is legitimate or not - give me interesting thoughts and opinions about it - but leave me out of it. Got it? Good."



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[info]saintedsin
2006-03-01 05:46 am UTC (link)
I couldn't stop myself.

It was just. . so. . wanky.

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[info]sir_hellsing
2006-03-01 05:48 am UTC (link)
You aren't getting porn for that.

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(no subject) - [info]saintedsin, 2006-03-01 05:53 am UTC

[info]snacky
2006-03-01 08:08 am UTC (link)
But in the future, try to restrain yourself. Since we frown upon that sort of thing here.

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(no subject) - [info]saintedsin, 2006-03-01 08:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]snacky, 2006-03-01 08:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cyndra_falin, 2006-03-02 08:00 am UTC

[info]sir_hellsing
2006-03-01 05:48 am UTC (link)
*winces*

I saw that and I didn't bother in getting involved. Even when people kept calling Tazo a "she."

I want my name off the list, though.

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[info]arymabeth
2006-03-01 06:25 am UTC (link)
That cracked me up as well. Poor Pat.

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(no subject) - [info]sir_hellsing, 2006-03-01 06:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sabinelagrande, 2006-03-01 06:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sir_hellsing, 2006-03-01 06:45 am UTC

[info]polemic
2006-03-01 05:51 am UTC (link)
DEAR FRIENDS PLEASE TELL ME IF YOU THINK:

1) I am awesome and not vain about it
2) I am awesome and very humble
3) I am awesome and don't understand how much

only looking for opinions kthx!

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[info]crysiana
2006-03-01 05:59 am UTC (link)
6! 6! :D

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[info]secondarygain
2006-03-01 06:43 am UTC (link)
You can never underestimate the need of some people for approval.

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(no subject) - [info]nostalgia, 2006-03-01 11:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]polemic, 2006-03-03 11:14 pm UTC

[info]miss_padfoot
2006-03-01 10:05 am UTC (link)
Heh heh. I love FW.

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(no subject) - [info]sashenka, 2006-03-01 04:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]arionhunter, 2006-03-01 06:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kantayra, 2006-03-02 07:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]judyhazeleyes, 2006-03-01 07:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-03-01 11:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tofuknight, 2006-03-02 03:48 am UTC

[info]dreadnot
2006-03-01 06:01 am UTC (link)
I really could have lived without my name being added on the edit.

God that was a stupid, self-aggrandizing post.

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(no subject) - [info]sir_hellsing, 2006-03-01 06:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dreadnot, 2006-03-01 06:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]raykat, 2006-03-01 09:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sabinelagrande, 2006-03-01 10:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]raykat, 2006-03-01 10:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]threegoldfish, 2006-03-01 04:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2006-03-01 06:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dreadnot, 2006-03-01 07:55 pm UTC

[info]msilverstar
2006-03-01 06:12 am UTC (link)
I'm thinking there's a [info]jurisimprudence law here. Wish I could put it in a pithy way...

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[info]saintedsin
2006-03-01 06:14 am UTC (link)
Because a poll on my own site would get tons of people saying "Oh, Erin, of course you're a BNF! I read your comic every day!"

This has to be one of my favorite quotes from her posts.

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(no subject) - [info]secondarygain, 2006-03-01 06:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]saintedsin, 2006-03-01 07:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sabinelagrande, 2006-03-01 07:18 am UTC
(no subject) - jenova, 2006-03-01 08:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sabinelagrande, 2006-03-01 10:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nostalgia, 2006-03-01 11:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2006-03-01 09:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-03-01 11:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sir_hellsing, 2006-03-01 07:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2006-03-01 04:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sir_hellsing, 2006-03-01 04:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]littleshebear, 2006-03-01 05:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2006-03-01 09:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sir_hellsing, 2006-03-01 11:04 pm UTC

[info]kelschuu
2006-03-01 06:19 am UTC (link)
...Me? I'm just amused that one of those BNFs mentioned has recently pretty much said "Fuck you Hellsing fandom, and the horse you rode in on. PEACE OUT." (Only nicer) and has no intention to do anything more on it.

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(no subject) - [info]sabinelagrande, 2006-03-01 06:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sabinelagrande, 2006-03-01 06:42 am UTC
(no subject) - jenova, 2006-03-01 08:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sabinelagrande, 2006-03-01 08:32 am UTC
(no subject) - jenova, 2006-03-01 08:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]arymabeth, 2006-03-01 03:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mastervex, 2006-03-03 08:37 pm UTC

[info]sabinelagrande
2006-03-01 06:23 am UTC (link)
I love Erin, but godddamn, it's like Cassie Claire going "Am I a BNF?"

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[info]churri
2006-03-01 06:36 am UTC (link)
Holy shit.

That's my ex-girlfriend.

*sings "It's a Small World" to self*

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(no subject) - [info]omnicrom, 2006-03-01 11:18 pm UTC

[info]princessdot
2006-03-01 06:56 am UTC (link)
~just wonders if anyone else read that username as SailorPuta~

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(no subject) - [info]saintedsin, 2006-03-01 07:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]saintedsin, 2006-03-01 07:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]raykat, 2006-03-01 09:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]princessdot, 2006-03-01 07:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2006-03-01 09:29 pm UTC

[info]nlb_muffin
2006-03-01 08:21 am UTC (link)
It's so easy to see through her. I mean, if your fandom has BNFs, you're going to eventually notice his/her name constantly popping up in your fandom explorations. There's no real need to ask.

But, well, earth logic.

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My fans like me!!!
[info]life_on_mars
2006-03-01 09:32 am UTC (link)
But don't twist what I said (like "my fans like me") into something else (like "therefore I must be a BNF").


Saying 'my fans like me' is about as valid as saying 'my cats like me'; talk about being a legend in your own living-room! At the very least it's damning with faint praise, as in the review; "People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like." True. Some people have absolutely no taste.

The level of egotism involved in so blatantly angling for BNF status is staggering. Apart from anything else, doesn't this plonker realise that the BNFs in a fandom are the ones the shit tends to stick to if anything goes wrong? I think she should just sit down and shut up, personally.

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Re: My fans like me!!! - [info]miss_padfoot, 2006-03-01 10:08 am UTC
Re: My fans like me!!! - [info]sizer, 2006-03-01 11:43 am UTC
Re: My fans like me!!! - [info]devadevin, 2006-03-01 10:32 pm UTC
Re: My fans like me!!! - [info]miss_padfoot, 2006-03-02 06:01 am UTC
Re: My fans like me!!! - [info]sizer, 2006-03-02 03:10 pm UTC
Re: My fans like me!!! - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2006-03-01 09:44 pm UTC
Re: My fans like me!!! - [info]life_on_mars, 2006-03-02 08:33 am UTC

[info]ravenscanary
2006-03-01 09:39 am UTC (link)
This is such contextual wank. It only looks like masturbatory fun for the OP if you, the reader, knows about the fandom and the OP's attitude. Because I read that original post knowing ZILCH about the fandom in question, and it doesn't seem that wanky to me. *sheepish*

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(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2006-03-01 11:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hobbitsexual, 2006-03-01 12:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hobbitsexual, 2006-03-01 12:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]churri, 2006-03-01 01:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chikane, 2006-03-01 03:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2006-03-01 05:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ravenscanary, 2006-03-01 07:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2006-03-01 07:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dreadnot, 2006-03-01 07:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]churri, 2006-03-02 02:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tiki, 2006-03-01 08:57 pm UTC

[info]dr_tristessa
2006-03-01 11:33 am UTC (link)
I knew the minute I saw that post that it would end up here. That question rivals HP fandom and "YAOI IS ICKYYYY! Please discuss." as a reliable wank factory.

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[info]mochibuni
2006-03-01 11:49 am UTC (link)
I didn't find her to be very wanky... Actually, I found the most entertaining wanky bits to be from those who responded negatively, but I don't think those are the wankers this report meant to point out.

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[info]simkin_mouse
2006-03-01 12:01 pm UTC (link)
...and yet how many people actually nominated the OP? One? Two? *amused* Surely not the hordes that would validate the second Edit.

Really, that was an idiotic trick to pull in a Hellsing-fandom related com. The Hellsing bunch is pretty much the most recalcitrant lot evah - they eat yours, their own, and the shady Care Bears who go around sekkritly planning World Domination. Bless'em!

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(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2006-03-01 04:44 pm UTC

[info]littleshebear
2006-03-01 05:54 pm UTC (link)
Mr. Mitts: AM I A BNF YET?

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(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2006-03-01 07:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mister_terrific, 2006-03-01 11:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]littleshebear, 2006-03-02 01:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2006-03-01 10:26 pm UTC

[info]sabinelagrande
2006-03-02 06:33 am UTC (link)
She apologises.

Though it's still wanky, IMHO. What do recommendations have to do with BNFs?

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(no subject) - [info]sir_hellsing, 2006-03-02 07:21 am UTC

[info]morbid_angel
2006-03-02 08:37 pm UTC (link)
...OW. Just OW.

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(no subject) - [info]cow_mouse, 2006-03-03 07:40 am UTC

 
   
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