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overlord_mordax posts in the Discworld community that the witch books make her "more angry than words".

The witch books, in my opinion, are anti-story. They take everything that is beautiful and enchanting and good about stories and says no, this is a lie. Not only does it insult stories, but it attempts to grind them up, and kill them.

My boyfriend calls me a Magrat, a wet hen (he’s read Pratchett too, obviously, and oddly the witch books are his favorite) maybe I am. I cried when she had to cut up the dress in Witches Abroad. Agnes’ story in Maskerade makes me angry. How dare it be Christine, how dare Agnes not get what was hers by right of narritive? I could barely read Carpe Jugulum for the mockery it made of the vampire mythos. And I just finished reading Wee Free Men.

There’s only one word I can use to describe the Witch books and their philosophy: bleak.

I was raised by stories, I love stories, and I believe in their power. So, when I read Pratchett, through Granny Weatherwax and now through Tiffany abusing stories in the way they do, flaying them and stripping them of all their value. It hurts me, it cuts me deeply, it wounds my very soul.

Because stories do have value; power, to inspire, ignite passion, give hope, to give color and form to a bleak and meaningless world. I see that power, and I use it, and it bears me up, every day of my life.

And it’s a power Granny Weatherwax will never have.

gumbuoy disagrees.
the point is, all these fairytales which hold you up? theyre not real. The good guys dont always win, the nice guy doesnt always get the girl, and so on. To believe that this is the case is naive.

Thats one of the things I love about terry's writing, it tears apart the things we accept as understood, and asks WHY? WHY do we believe these things?

Theres a difference between these stories and reality, and knowing that difference is a power, and thats the power Weatherwax has.

Also, by right of narritive? - if a story was to just follow standard narrative conventions, I wouldnt bother reading it. Been there done that.

And also, you say that these books have a negative outlook, but you're the one who calls it a bleak and meaningless world , maybe you should look to something else to bring you to joy rather than cliched narratives and fairy tales?

Mordax says that she likes stories that follow standard narrative conventions but have new window dressing, and the two argue for a bit.

conuly jumps in to say that that's naive.

scienceprincess uncovers the real point of the way Pterry takes apart fairy tales and stories, but, sadly, logic is too much for Mordax and she does not reply.

More logic that flies over Mordax's head. See also the other two pages of comments.


ETA: Mordax makes a new post about why she gets the point without actually getting the point in truth.