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sairobi ([info]sairobi) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-05-12 22:48:00


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FFXI RMT Wankaga
A little background: Final Fantasy XI is a MMORPG like World of Warcraft or Everquest. And like WoW and EQ, FFXI forums are environments hostile to all forms of intelligent discussion. Among the myriad of triggers that drive players into a frenzy of wank, the grandaddy of them all is the subject of Real Money Trade (RMT). RMT, or gilselling, is the practice of making real-life bank off selling in-game money ('gil' in FFXI).*

The wank gets off to a tl;dr start when the OP makes brave and controversial statment: "I support gil buying". The OP, a high level EVERYTHING, basically reasons that he'd rather party with a gil-buyer with great equipment than someone who doesn't buy gil and has sub-par equipment. Besides, OP is filthy rich in-game, and the struggles of petty mortals to earn money don't really concern him.

Everything is chugging along fairly reasonably until Dragonbruce drops the S bomb: "That attitude is why slavery lasted as long as it did." The OP quickly assures him that RMT is absolutely not like slavery, and things return to deceptive calm.

Then! From out of nowhere! Two pages rich in wank staples, including: Bizzare metaphors! "I'm taking my toys and leaving!" Flagrant violations of Godwin's Law! And my personal favorite, INTRANET DEBATES ON RELATIVISM.

About the only things we're missing here are ship wars and 'hed is pastede on yay' for a complete wank diet.



*Yes, real money exchanged for fake money. I know I just broke a lot of brains there, but I think a lot of people (including myself) begin to see it as a viable option when they realize that Asshat +1 they're salivating over will literally take weeks of repetitive farming/crafting/mining to earn.



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(Anonymous)
2006-05-13 05:46 am UTC (link)
*Yes, real money exchanged for fake money. I know I just broke a lot of brains there, but I think a lot of people (including myself) begin to see it as a viable option when they realize that Asshat +1 they're salivating over will literally take weeks of repetitive farming/crafting/mining to earn.


I am going to remind people of this wank when somebody's saying BPAL fans are stupid for spending all that money on perfume. Shit, at least we get perfume out of it.

Really, buy whatever you want. Some people want dildos shaped like Pokemons. I mean, get yourself through the day however you have to.

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[info]hallidae
2006-05-13 05:47 am UTC (link)
Is it just me, or does the OPs attitude seem a lot more 1920s money baron than Antibellum Slave Owner?

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[info]sol
2006-05-13 05:50 am UTC (link)
...I knew there was a reason I stayed the hell away from FFXI and WoW. I don't want to get my soul sucked out involved in the daily drama.

...I still want to try out Ragnarok Online, though.

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[info]lindentreeisle
2006-05-13 05:51 am UTC (link)
I've actually played a game where there was an item called the Asshat. You made it by combining two Bum Cheeks.

This is how our society went from "Leave it to Beaver" to "Brokeback Mountain". Same damn thing.

Is he talking about the alteration of American society's perception of sexuality, or the changing standards of cinematics, or the slow decline of famous characters with rhyming names, or what? I am so confused.

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[info]seraphtrevs
2006-05-13 05:56 am UTC (link)
You know, I think the Nothing is like the Nazis page on the Fandom Wank Wiki needs to be updated to include "Nothing is like slavery." Because, seriously. What. The. FUCK.

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[info]reeve
2006-05-13 05:58 am UTC (link)
About the only things we're missing here are ship wars and 'hed is pastede on yay' for a complete wank diet.

Of course, that's what the rest of the Final Fantasy franchise is for.

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[info]your_face
2006-05-13 06:26 am UTC (link)
I think a lot of people (including myself) begin to see it as a viable option when they realize that Asshat +1 they're salivating over will literally take weeks of repetitive farming/crafting/mining to earn.

Especially when you start late in a game and, even after a year of gameplay, still can't afford even the most basic shit in-game. *headdesk*

Or, like in UO a few years back, there is no choice but to buy certain in-game items with real money because they've all been taken up already.

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[info]nlb_muffin
2006-05-13 06:45 am UTC (link)
I've partied with a Ninja in the 40s

Now I'm picturing a ninja in a bar drinking a martini while listening to Frank Sinatra.

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(Anonymous)
2006-05-13 07:12 am UTC (link)
*Yes, real money exchanged for fake money. I know I just broke a lot of brains there, but I think a lot of people (including myself) begin to see it as a viable option when they realize that Asshat +1 they're salivating over will literally take weeks of repetitive farming/crafting/mining to earn.

I didn't just do this...ten minutes ago...*is so ashamed* but 500k in Guild Wars loot in like ten SECONDS *whimper*

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[info]kami
2006-05-13 07:22 am UTC (link)
Yeah... cause things (IE: useless drama) in online games are totally just like one of the most disgusting atrocities that humans can and do commit against other humans.

Thank you internet for pointing that out. Here I was foolishly holding the belief that people who spend real money to buy fake money were just idiots. My bad.

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[info]radiotrash
2006-05-13 07:33 am UTC (link)
When we were playing WoW, my boyfriend bought 100 gold twice. I think it cost him $10. But he had to use my paypal, both times, and being the mean horrible person I am I charged him the fee of "buy me 100 gold too."

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[info]blackjackrocket
2006-05-13 07:43 am UTC (link)
I would so play that game if you could play as a Qu.

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[info]kasuino
2006-05-13 07:53 am UTC (link)
Let's not forget that people also sell their pimped out characters on Ebay.

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(Anonymous)
2006-05-13 07:57 am UTC (link)
I often forget that there is a FFXI.

-Codi Lane, the forgetful mousie.

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(Anonymous)
2006-05-13 08:12 am UTC (link)
Let's see if I can translate this out of Fucktard and into English.

That attitude is why slavery lasted as long as it did.

Remove the inappropriate analogy... and the pretention... find the point (requiring a NASA probe, or possibly an anal probe)... carry the two...

...

Did this person actually mean "Nothing is going to change if you're that apathetic about it?" Or is that giving them too much credit. Because what the flying fuck. On the list of human atrocities, well, I'm not going to rank them, but I'm gonna guess that slavery? As an institution? Has to be in the top three.

Selling fake money for real money and giving the wealthier players the edge up in an online RPG? Like atrocity eight million six hundred and thirty nine.

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[info]mochibuni
2006-05-13 08:46 am UTC (link)
Ah, paying for fake money.

It's always on Ebay, too. XD

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(Anonymous)
2006-05-13 08:50 am UTC (link)
I...I'm sorry. I know there's wank to be read. But I'm too distracted by Mason blowing the bird. Ahh Mason, Mason, Mason.

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[info]tavalya_ra
2006-05-13 08:51 am UTC (link)
*Yes, real money exchanged for fake money. I know I just broke a lot of brains there, but I think a lot of people (including myself) begin to see it as a viable option when they realize that Asshat +1 they're salivating over will literally take weeks of repetitive farming/crafting/mining to earn.

No, I get it. I just joined Gaia.

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[info]shirokumo
2006-05-13 09:01 am UTC (link)
I think I'll stick too FF VII.<3

Where's the point in escaping reality when you still have to communicate with egoistical and stupid ass-hats real people? >_>

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[info]wrongly_amused
2006-05-13 09:02 am UTC (link)
Out of curiosity, is the RMT a player-created trade, or is it a service trade allowed by the game administrators? I'm just curious, as I can see where this could lead to a slippery slope with the elitism issue.

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sharonapple
2006-05-13 09:06 am UTC (link)
I once read the most batshit, train-wrecky, crazy post on BRPS about FFXI. Unfortunately, it was also fairly depressing as it involved the deterioration of a RL marriage.

Also, people have been selling zeny/gil/gold on eBay, since forever. Aren't there any rules against it on FFXI? I know that it's not allowed on Ragnarok Online (not that it stops anyone).

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[info]belafarinrod
2006-05-13 09:12 am UTC (link)
...This is why I only play the Elder Scrolls. No idiots, no people to fight with, and if someone has used up all the nice stuff it's bloody well been me!

However, I can understand why someone would like to sell things aquired in a game. I mean, hey, if someone is willing to pay for it..?

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[info]chikane
2006-05-13 09:53 am UTC (link)
Well, I don't know, but the slavery thing isn't so far from the truth, actually. The working conditions of these who do the mindnumbing goldmaking these days is indeed pretty horrible. You might not be aware of that and the whole "chinese farmer" thing though.

To be honest, this whole thing is also why I don't enjoy these games anymore. Without paying real money to play the game you can't play it after buying, and to continue playing it properly, you either need to spend gazillion hours to get the money to buy items with extremely inflated prices thanks to the cheap money...or spend more real money.
Either that, or your equip is deemed "bad" and you won't be allowed to go to the funky places.
I remember a game, Ragnarok Online, where these farmers basically destroyed all the fun there was in a lot of maps because they made these maps basically unplayable.

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[info]aerobot
2006-05-13 11:29 am UTC (link)
*Yes, real money exchanged for fake money. I know I just broke a lot of brains there, but I think a lot of people (including myself) begin to see it as a viable option when they realize that Asshat +1 they're salivating over will literally take weeks of repetitive farming/crafting/mining to earn.

... And THAT is the reason why I stay away from MMORPG's like the motherfucking PLAGUE.

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[info]greenling
2006-05-13 09:00 pm UTC (link)
I'm not sure I can fault the people who pay $300 for a fake sword any more than I can fault the people who pay $300 for a real sword... or an XBox... or a big-screen TV... or anything else I don't have and don't want because that's three-quarters of my rent, goddamn you not-broke people. *sulks*

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