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squeakthemouse ([info]squeakthemouse) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-05-13 18:02:00


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Smallville MySpace wank: "Free Lana!"
In the Smallville fandom, there is a popular Clark/Lana shipper board called Sweet. The fans there are not happy with the season finale "Vessel." A fairly prominent poster decides to wank on Steven DeKnight's myspace about it, with the encouragement of other posters. More fans take his lead and wank on DeKnight's myspace, then post their comments on Sweet for the others to see.

However, the fun doesn't really start until some non-Sweet fans come onto DeKnight's myspace to defend the show's honor. (Scroll about halfway down to merricate's post... myspace apparently doesn't permalink comments like LJ does. It starts there.) It quickly degenerates to a "Your fave character sucks!" "No, your fave character sucks!" back-and-forth. Highlights below the cut.

Janna: For one, I don't think alot of us give a damn about Chloe, because she doesn't exist in the comics. The ORIGINAL comics. Chloe, the person who, as I said, doesn't exist..is having more character development then the people who are in it together in every version. Chloe is IRONICALLY taking the place of both Lana AND Lois. She is the "real hero" of the show.

ChamberofCK: Dude, you don't have to give a damn about Chloe to give a damn about how Lana being that Calllous makes *LANA* look. I hope Chloe doesn't give a damn about her either, the ingate.

Todd: If the writers don't care about the charcters , why should I? You have turned Lana into a cheap slut, who can't go an episode without a boyfriend. Chloe has become a super spy, who has been more heroic than Clark, and the future Lois Lane is a drop out and a drunk.

Joy Thompson: Lana never could go an episode w/o a boyfriend or are you just tuning in? Also hoping people get fired, smooth buddy, I'm sure you'd appreciate it if people left you messages like that regarding your job on your blog. Whatever

ChamberofCK: Clark and Chloe? Set them free. There one-way-street "friendships" with Lana, wherein only Lana benifets and then proceeds to tear into them, abandons them during crisis when they never abandon her (no, actually they JUMP up right away to ask her what's wrong if she has so much as a gassy look on her face)-- this is shunning-worthy behavior. She can't even spare basic human decency fro them when they've saved her and supported her more times than she can count. I can believe a man can fly, but I CAN'T believe any self-respecting human beings would put up with that and *not* tell Lana off before freezing her out. Set them free.

alexa: the only one who needs to be set free is LANA. have we all forgotten that chloe once betrayed clark by going to lionel? the only difference is that lana is DATING lex. but NOOO...chloe is suddenly the greatest person alive, thanks to her amazing (did you hear me? i said AMAZING computer hacking skills)

but why did lana go to lex?mainly because... oh yeah, thats right. CLARK LOOKED HER STRAIGHT IN THE EYE, TELLING HER HE DIDNT LOVE HER! he betrayed her, by sleeping with her, promising things would be different.


Joy Thompson: If you keep attacking characters at their core you're going to start a shipper war. {wow that rhymed}and trust me we.don't.want.that
Umm... don't you all pretty much have a shipper war already?

And on and on, until Steve DeKnight makes commenting friends only. Undeterred, the Sweets begin sending e-mails. and calling for members on SD's friends list to go to his MySpace. The wank continues to spill into the remainder of the thread and, if you're really bored brave, the next thread.


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(Anonymous)
2006-05-14 04:33 am UTC (link)
Well, I've never seen Smallville, but as a Whedonite (yeah, yeah...) I have to say, "Leave DeKnight alone!" Poor guy gettin' all harassedimified...

Is it too much to hope that one day the lion will lay down with the lamb and we will have no more shipper wars? No? I didn't think so.

browncoat_gater

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[info]vigilanterodent
2006-05-14 06:30 am UTC (link)
No. Then we would have Aslan/Lambchop and Simba/Lambchop battles.

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(no subject) - [info]diane_duane, 2006-05-14 10:04 am UTC
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[info]misswindy
2006-05-14 08:27 am UTC (link)
"Leave DeKnight alone!" Poor guy gettin' all harassedimified...

Nahhh, he kind of asked for it. I mean, he's been posting everywhere in the SV forum, actively recruiting people to "leave him some love" in his myspace, and getting all riled up when people on Kryptonsite were all "So, like, out of the worst 10 episodes of Smallville? YOU WROTE EIGHT OF THEM." And we were like, dude, this is not the Steve DeKnight FanClub. He was cool about that part, but he's been busily attention whoring for weeks on SV fan boards everywhere. Silly man. He didn't know better then, but I'm sure he does now!

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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2006-05-14 08:31 am UTC
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[info]danger_angel
2006-05-14 04:35 am UTC (link)
And they said the Smallville fandom was dying....

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fuzzy_ears
2006-05-14 05:13 am UTC (link)
I was under the impression that most people hated Lana except for the producers?

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(Anonymous)
2006-05-14 05:28 am UTC (link)
Depends on who you ask. I had the same impression, but it looks like she has little pockets of fanatics.

Huh. Are these the same people who were trying to send an *oak tree* to the producers of the show, but finally settled for sending acorns?

-Caelum on LJ

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[info]jaina
2006-05-14 05:32 am UTC (link)
Wait, wait, Smallville is still on the air?

Aren't they all like 30 by now?

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(no subject) - [info]lurker32, 2006-05-14 08:49 am UTC

[info]seraphtrevs
2006-05-14 05:39 am UTC (link)
The absolute best way to force a show to do what you want is to visciuosly harrass the show's producers. *facepalm*

Seriously, what a bunch of fucktards. Then again, I'm not really surprised - Lana/Clark is like H/Hr (except with actual canon basis) - there's a faction within those 'shippers who are BATSHIT INSANE.

I feel like writing DeKnight a fan letter. This is the only season so far where I haven't wanted to punch Lana in the mouth in every episode.

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[info]hallidae
2006-05-14 05:56 am UTC (link)
. . . Is there such a thing yet as internet restraining orders? 'Cause, Christ, does DeKnight need to file for a bunch of them with people like these loons after him.

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[info]lizbee
2006-05-14 05:57 am UTC (link)
I don't really care about Smallville -- but MYSPACE WANK! *claps*

Must add "making fun of myspace" to LJ interests...

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(no subject) - [info]delcj, 2006-05-14 06:49 am UTC

[info]ladyofviolets
2006-05-14 05:58 am UTC (link)
I'm shocked that Smallville!Lana has *fans* in the first place. Because, whoa, I haven't seen such a vicious hatred against a non-anime female character in quite a while... not including Ginny Weasley, of course.

I don't even like Lana that much, yet the bashing turned me off from Smallville for-ever. :o

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(no subject) - [info]suzycat, 2006-05-14 10:08 am UTC

vomitymcpuke
2006-05-14 05:58 am UTC (link)
I'm not a Smallville fan, but God those people are embarassing. And anyway, DeKnight worked with Joss, the God of all things, and should be left in peace. Way to abuse the awesome ability to talk to the fucking producer of your favourite show, jackasses.

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[info]kenboy
2006-05-14 06:05 am UTC (link)
God, why do real people have myspaces?

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[info]jim_smith
2006-05-14 06:56 am UTC (link)
Am I the only one chortling at the idea that any love interest needs to be "freed" from a teenage Clark Kent? We all know he's gonna leave all these bitches for Lois, just be patient.

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[info]dru
2006-05-14 07:37 am UTC (link)
I feel sorry for DeKnight. Not only is he writing for Smallville of all things, but he's getting absolutely no respect for it. You just can't help feeling sorry for him.

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(Anonymous)
2006-05-14 07:53 am UTC (link)
Poor DeKnight. Seriously, it's starting to feel like his bosses just get a kick out of saddling him with every plotline most likely to generate wank. First he has to kill Tara on BtVS, then he gets stuck writing Connor/Cordelia sex on AtS, and now they've sicced the Clana shippers on him? That poor, poor man. Really, just for surviving the great Kitten wank of '02, he deserves a nice, cushy job on Medium or something...somewhere away from the crazy shippers.

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Don't tell anyone - [info]ruaha56, 2006-05-14 02:58 pm UTC
Re: Don't tell anyone - [info]gelasius, 2006-05-16 07:13 am UTC

[info]suzycat
2006-05-14 09:57 am UTC (link)
It really amazes me that these people are in any way surprised at the arrival of Lexana, because, duh. You have a show starring two men and one woman, of an age and not related to each other. What do you *think* is going to happen? Never mind all the "OMG Lana has been turned from a selfless sainted dolly to an evil slut!!!" because that's clearly delusional and they haven't actually watched the show.

They should be thankful for small mercies. At least their stupid ship is canon.

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(Anonymous)
2006-05-14 03:24 pm UTC (link)
Smallville is wanky? Wow. And here I thought only shows that were off the WB somewhat popular attracted wank.

`nekomouse

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[info]mistressrenet
2006-05-14 04:13 pm UTC (link)
I have no OTPs in Smallville. I just hate Lana.

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(Anonymous)
2006-05-14 04:50 pm UTC (link)
I don't give a flying procreational act about Smallville, but look at his Whedon-verse writing credits! One of the best angst writers!

Buffy
"Blood Ties" - Dawn finding out she's the key and going loopy, plus major plot point.
"Dead things" which has the coolest and by far best written Buffy/Spike sex scene
"Seeing Red" - Do I need to say anything?
"Spiral" - THE MAN WROTE SPIRAL PEOPLE, a little love please??

Angel (this is impressive - I'm just gonna list the season 5 ones)
"Hell Bound" - !!!
"Destiny" - !!!!
"Damage" - !!!!!!!!
"Why we fight" - !!!!!
"Shells" - !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, Shells. Shells. He wrote the second part of Fred's death. Beautiful, if evil episode.

Leave the poor guy alone, he writes the angst because he rocks the angst.

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(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2006-05-14 05:16 pm UTC
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bigi
2006-05-14 07:48 pm UTC (link)
The day after the series finale for Smallville airs will be just incredible. Imagine the wank from all the delusional fans who are angry at Almiles for not making *their* vision reality.

Clark/Lana fans: How could Clark end up with Lois?! She's a stupid h0r! Clark's real love is Lana!

Chlois fans: How could Clark end up with Lois?! She's a stupid h0r! The real Lois Lane is Chloe Sullivan!

Lex fans: How could Lex end up evil? He's the real hero of this show, not Clark! This is bullshit!

That they all went in knowing how the story would end makes them all more batshit than the Harmonians or Slytherin defenders.

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[info]deeablo
2006-05-14 11:19 pm UTC (link)
DeKnight's responded to a few of the comments by making pithy ones of his own. These are on page four:
I agree about everything resolving too simply in Season 6. I'm going to push for Clark to remain trapped in the Phantom Zone until Season 7, Chloe to fall for Lionel, and Lana to accidentally kill Lex because the sock in his mouth prevented him from saying their safe word.

Actually, I have heard a rumor that Lana may in fact date Jar Jar next year. It might even be my directorial follow up to that damn exploding baby.

I have to be on my game next year? I was planning on phoning it in, maybe recycle some old episodes of Undressed. Now you're telling me I have to actually work? Crap.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-05-15 12:04 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2006-05-15 04:11 pm UTC (link)
Sounds like poor DeKnight has another Kitten Jihad on his hands (wonder if he claims to be wearing pants this time).

~shipperx@lj

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(Anonymous)
2006-05-15 10:34 pm UTC (link)
have we all forgotten that chloe once betrayed clark by going to lionel? the only difference is that lana is DATING lex

I love how:

A) That is the same damn argument that always comes up when people hate Chloe, and, hi, three seasons ago? Apologies made, lessoned learned? You know, character growth?

B) So, apparently, it would be TOTALLY OKAY if Chloe had been DATING Lionel. All those wasted opprotunities for sweet, sweet, underaged lovin.

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[info]jadedphyre
2006-05-16 12:52 am UTC (link)
Todd: If the writers don't care about the charcters , why should I? You have turned Lana into a cheap slut, who can't go an episode without a boyfriend.

I'm genuinely confused-- Lana isn't so much a character as a slutty plot device who'll turn evil in the drop of a hat whenever they can't think of what to do for an episode.

....or at least she was when I still watched that trainwreck.

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(no subject) - [info]suzycat, 2006-05-16 02:20 am UTC

 
   
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