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THE POISSON MUST BE FRESH! ([info]rotten_fish) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-05-20 16:50:00


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Don't you dare call me 'strumpet,' you dirty, ugly son of a bitca
Thanks, mousey on [info]wank_report!

Over on [info]fanficrants and , [info]vain_chan writes a really long letter to the plagiarist [info]roninoath, detailing the many times (and many fics) this person plagiarized. More of the story is here, and here. Most of the reactions are in her favor; [info]roninoath, after deleting her LJ, even apologizes. So, everything's sooo good, right? Haha, of course not!

When [info]sharz expresses his/her condolences s/he also adds: "...But lets stay objective before we start with the abuse. It's just fanfiction, not an academic essay, it's done for fun, not point getting too worked up about it; it's not worth anyones effort to let a uncreative, dishonest person make us angry."

Besides a hilarious misspelling of "plagiarist" by [info]sharz ('plaugerist' ftw!) and [info]vain_chan crossposting-commenting a reply, the wank really unloads on [info]sharz's LJ, where she/he writes about the "Immaturity in fandom," addressing, well, uh, only [info]vain_chan's OMG SO MEEEEN behavior and, fandom is not serious business, and ranting = immaturity, and yadda yadda yadda.

Highlights:

"Going on to publicly humiliate and being incredibly rude is not on. Using words such as strumpet, bitch etc is just not on. Whatever the problem, we've got to deal with it in a civilised manner. The rant's author's 'don’t' fuck me with' attitude really grates on my nerves. There is really no need to adopt such a 'badass' attitude for the sake of fanfiction. I hope he/she doesn't think she's being threatening or particularly smart-alec. Note: my emphasis on the word fanfiction. Had it been something of more academic import it would be a different matter even though vain_chan's tone I can't condone under any circumstance."

"Also the violence of the words did not add up to the task being done. The plagiarist stole some fanfiction. Not an academic thesis which took years to complete, just an RPG, 3-7 hours work max. These people really need to grow up a little and loosen up. Anime and fanfics are hobbies, not a lifestyle unless people make it such. And it's rather idle to be doing nothing but watching anime and then making up fanfics about it."

"Rant communities are silly, that's what your personal LJ's are for."

"As for the plagiarist, I'm rather annoyed at this person. However I don't need to devote time on my LJ saying how low they are."


Huzzah!

[info]vain_chan takes umbrage: "I enjoyed how you backhandedly insulted me all throughout your LJ post."

You are not involved in this in the least—you’re not even a MEMBER of this comm—so stop trying to boost your ego through your pseudo-diplomatic prattle."

"It is not your place to condone my actions or my word. I do not answer to you and you are not a moral authority. In fact, you’re a bloody hypocrite."


I literally cried with laughter at [info]enelya_telrunya's "Can everyone just let it lie? I can't stand online fights! They're just awful!" [info]shadlez defends [info]sharz and I can't wait for the sequel! And there is more! Also, cutlery! Fun for the whole family! And I think it's still going. ::claps in delight::

ETA: THE WRAP-UPS DO NOT END. Also, FW is le stupid. But hey, baby, I don't love ya for your brains! ...Though they are delicious. ::zombie hands::



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[info]gal_montag
2006-05-21 02:07 am UTC (link)
It's just fanfiction, not an academic essay, it's done for fun, not point getting too worked up about it; it's not worth anyones effort to let a uncreative, dishonest person make us angry.

Oddly people seem to get less mad over the plagairism of academic essays than they do over fanfiction.

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(Anonymous)
2006-05-21 02:08 am UTC (link)
Musty Cunt Flap may be my new favorite phrase. Like there's mothballs in there or something.

-Hat

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(Anonymous)
2006-05-21 02:08 am UTC (link)
Virgon post ha!

And while Vain_chan might have been wanky, having some thing you have sunk a whole lot of time and effort into geting ripped off, hobby or no, are pretty good grounds for getting upset.

Sharz is a plain troll. Complaining about a person ranting on a rant community is like complaining that Death Valley is hot, no logic there. Very passive-agressive wankery there.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-05-21 03:19 am UTC

[info]squeakytoy
2006-05-21 02:14 am UTC (link)
There is really no need to adopt such a 'badass' attitude for the sake of fanfiction.

*wonders if [info]sharz has ever been plagiarized*

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[info]gusty
2006-05-21 02:23 am UTC (link)
"Can everyone just let it lie? I can't stand online fights! They're just awful!"

Internet war! What is it good for? Absolutely... WANKING!

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Say it again, y'all. - [info]nebbieq, 2006-05-21 08:15 pm UTC

[info]stella_polaris
2006-05-21 02:33 am UTC (link)
But where's the Da Vinci Code wank gone?

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[info]hallidae
2006-05-21 02:34 am UTC (link)
Any bets on how utterly batshit [info]sharz would go if someone plagarized hir work of any form?

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-05-21 04:16 am UTC

flightstothesea
2006-05-21 02:51 am UTC (link)
The rant's author's 'don't' fuck me with' attitude

Don't fuck her with what?

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[info]esclaramonde
2006-05-21 02:55 am UTC (link)
I do think that the original post on FFR was a leetle over the top. Like ... I could understand it for a journal post, but for the comm it could have been a bit more tempered. *insert "Yes, I know it's a rant comm" disclaimer* I hate plagiarism, but it was really long. It could have been a shorter, blunter "This person is a rotten plagiarist. Throw rocks at them," type of thing.

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[info]khym_chanur
2006-05-21 03:06 am UTC (link)
Which wank was that "cumdump" icon inspired by? All I have is the fuzziest of recollections.

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Re: Icon - [info]esclaramonde, 2006-05-21 03:21 am UTC
Re: Icon - [info]khym_chanur, 2006-05-21 04:12 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-05-21 03:17 am UTC (link)
I can't really take sides on this one. vain-chan was right to be pissed at the dirty plagiarist, but WAS a little over the top in the FFR post. And sharz's "The rant's author's 'don’t' fuck me with' attitude really grates on my nerves. There is really no need to adopt such a 'badass' attitude for the sake of fanfiction." statement is something I agree with, yet vain-chan was right...sharz DID back-handedly insult all through their post.

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[info]themadscientist
2006-05-21 03:28 am UTC (link)
Wow. Just... wow.
Copying work = bad. Very bad.

But vain-chan? Take a chill pill please, it's just a role-playing scene. And not even a good one.

I can't really feel sorry for anyone in this wank so... who wants cookies!

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[info]wrongly_amused
2006-05-21 03:48 am UTC (link)
Kind of on [info]starz side, here. I mean, I would be distinctly unhappy if somebody pagiarized me, but I wouldn't flip my shit about it. There are far worse things that could happen.

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[info]umeko
2006-05-21 03:58 am UTC (link)
What's with the communities I mod lately? :(

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[info]ashenmote
2006-05-21 04:07 am UTC (link)
Hello Rotten Fish!!!

[info]sharz: Whatever the problem, we've got to deal with it in a civilised manner.

Spoken like a true gentleman and welcome on F_W for it. Geez, why can't you play all civilized with your own plagiarists?

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[info]polemic
2006-05-21 04:31 am UTC (link)
Woo, I know people in this wank.

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[info]secondarygain
2006-05-21 04:52 am UTC (link)
I can understand where [info]vain_chan's anger is coming from, but it does seem like her behavior is a little over the top. It's one thing to rant in your own journal, it is yours, of course. But it seems like she turned a LJ community into a means for her own personal issues. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that [info]fanficrants was for complaining about badly written fic, not for hashing out personal disputes.

Also, for someone who supposedly thinks that fanfiction has no merit, I can't really see why [info]sharz feels the need to make a post about an argument that has nothing to do with her, and use a condescending tone, at least that's what it sounds like to me. And if she sees no merit in [info]fanficrants, why did she show up there to read and comment to a wanky post to begin with? Boredom? Lack of 'real' fiction to read?

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[info]ladybirdsleeps
2006-05-21 05:02 am UTC (link)
What are these people doing on fanficrants?

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(Anonymous)
2006-05-21 05:09 am UTC (link)
My favorite part is that enelya_telrunya's desperate bid for peace came with a Snape icon.

-SeraMouse

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[info]squeakthemouse
2006-05-21 05:32 am UTC (link)
I see some pretty big wankery on both sides of this. As an author who's been plagiarized, I understand where [info]vain_chan is coming from, but her post came off more as a bid for attention/sympathy than a rant. And [info]sharz came out swinging with the classic wanker attitude--"I'm above all this, which is why I'm here wanking posting."

Fun to be had by all.

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Bitch, you don't know me!
(Anonymous)
2006-05-21 06:19 am UTC (link)
This is all getting so Sally Jessy.

May I just say, though, that baitedbreath's analogy about some evil woman copying a painting and hanging it in the local Starbucks--priceless, only because I imagine Vain in that Starbucks staring at that painting, and raving about it in monologue after dull monologue.

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Re: Bitch, you don't know me! - [info]rotten_fish, 2006-05-21 06:39 am UTC

[info]rotten_fish
2006-05-21 06:50 am UTC (link)
[my Little Plagiarism Story. With UFOs!]

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[info]gun
2006-05-21 08:00 am UTC (link)
"Also the violence of the words did not add up to the task being done. The plagiarist stole some fanfiction. Not an academic thesis which took years to complete, just an RPG, 3-7 hours work max. These people really need to grow up a little and loosen up. Anime and fanfics are hobbies, not a lifestyle unless people make it such. And it's rather idle to be doing nothing but watching anime and then making up fanfics about it."

Tell that to the person who watched my LJ for eight months and stole real-life posts and non-fandom stuff for her university journal: this is in addition to entire fics being copy-pasted. It's great hearing anecdotes about you looking after your little cousins being stolen for some other schmuck to tell: no, really, that's not creepy at all.

I really can't blame the author for being ZOMGGTFO, considering that I had the exact same reaction. It's really insulting and dishonest, and in some cases just really damn creepy.

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[info]theantifooosh
2006-05-21 08:09 am UTC (link)
Also the violence of the words did not add up to the task being done.

My words can beat up your words. Trust me--I once saw one of my words attempt to gouge out another word's I.

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(no subject) - [info]dontgiveahoot, 2006-05-21 10:46 am UTC

[info]darkeyes
2006-05-21 02:53 pm UTC (link)
Wow, Penny Arcade does have a comic on everything! XD

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