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Catja Mikhailovic (cmikhailovic) wrote in fandom_wank,
@ 2003-07-11 02:28:00

The wank is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE
Over the ages, there has been much debate about what is wanky.

For example, a person you dislike intensely begs to know why, oh why, you hate her so. People respond, some politely, some less so. Wanky? You bet. On both sides. I participated. Not one of my more shining moments, but hey! We all have them.

The offended person posts her own wank to F_W. Odd, but fair enough, I suppose. This is the place for wank, even if it's your own.

But then, someone responds to the wankee with something she doesn't like, i.e., a verifiable fact about her shoddy behavior, which said wankee has been ignoring. The wankee then turns off commenting. In F_W.

This is like, the best meta-wank EVER.

(Edited to correct my awful spelling)

(Further edited: Apparently, turning off comments was a mistake. Okay!)

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rann
2003-07-11 10:13 am UTC (link)

If it's meta-wank, you appear to have made it so... to me, it looks like the person in question was honestly trying to get some questions answered, and had a lot of people jump down their throat, despite repeated attempts at apology and explanation. I don't know the whole story, I just know what it LOOKS like, and what it looks like is that by turning off comments on the F_W post, they were attempting to keep from bringing the flame war here, and you've become determined to do just that.

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cmikhailovic
2003-07-11 10:20 am UTC (link)

Dude, *she* brought it over here, in a rather blatant attempt to garner pity for herself and to sic F_W on us. She was content to leave comments up until someone said somthing she didn't like -- called her on her *own* wankiness. So, it kind of backfired on her. Now, posters have been called on wankiness before, but dude, no one has ever shut off comments. Wanting F_W to be your attack dog, and then shutting it all down if it doesn't go the way you expected? That's wanky as all hell.

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	rann 2003-07-11 10:22 am UTC (link)
	Well, so is bitching "Wah wah, I can't attack someone in the place I want to attack them". You call it meta-wank, so what the hell is this post? Meta-meta-wank? If you absolutely have to keep bashing on her, go over to her journal and do it, or do it in your own journal, don't further the wank here. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

cmikhailovic, 2003-07-11 10:28 am UTC

ipomoea, 2003-07-11 11:04 am UTC

marvolo, 2003-07-11 10:50 am UTC

cmikhailovic, 2003-07-11 10:56 am UTC

jumboclone, 2003-07-11 11:49 am UTC

sorchar, 2003-07-11 12:13 pm UTC

kannaophelia, 2003-07-12 06:07 am UTC

sorchar, 2003-07-12 08:16 am UTC

	Too bad Wank doesn't have anything on its info page about diabling comments. jumboclone 2003-07-11 10:30 am UTC (link)
	Amen. Hell, I'm not even irritated that she turned off the comments because someone said the expected thing she wasn't going to like -- I'm irritated because I was responding to someone else in the comments about something totally different. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	pris 2003-07-11 05:31 pm UTC (link)
	1) As she's mentioned, turning comments off was accidental, not that I believe that anyone here has made an error before. 2) She's not looking for pity. I wish she were. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

embitca, 2003-07-11 08:22 pm UTC

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pris, 2003-07-11 08:35 pm UTC

sorchar
2003-07-11 12:11 pm UTC (link)

Nope, sorry. If you bring it over here, you have to be prepared for whatever comes, whether it be support or mockery. Don't bring it here if you can't handle the fallout.

Mods could turn comments back on. I won't, because my personal feeling is the less interference by mods, in this particular community, the better. However, I'm tempted, and I can't speak for any of the other mods.

Sorry, sarahchica, but don't air your laundry over here if you're afraid people will point out the stains.

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rann, 2003-07-11 12:15 pm UTC

sorchar, 2003-07-11 12:19 pm UTC

cimorene111, 2003-07-11 11:00 pm UTC

cimorene111, 2003-07-11 11:01 pm UTC

sorchar, 2003-07-11 12:20 pm UTC

hugsnkisses, 2003-07-11 07:08 pm UTC

soy_latte, 2003-07-12 11:10 am UTC

YWankMV

snacky
2003-07-11 03:55 pm UTC (link)

Eh. I don't know the whole story either. Trying to get some questions answered is one thing (and it seems kinda wanky to me to ask "why do you hate me?") and if it had only been in her own journal, I'd let it slide.

But *she* brought it to f_w, in an attempt to garner attention, and turning off the comments? Super fuckin' wanky. There's no guarantee the wank is going to go the way the person who posts it wants it to go (see the Darqstar wank of a few weeks back). But you can't take it? Don't bring it.

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cmikhailovic, 2003-07-11 04:37 pm UTC

Re: YWankMV - wizzard, 2003-07-11 06:45 pm UTC

cmikhailovic, 2003-07-11 08:15 pm UTC

pris, 2003-07-11 08:42 pm UTC

Re: YWankMV - wizzard, 2003-07-12 02:20 am UTC

rhoddlet, 2003-07-12 07:19 am UTC

iczer6, 2003-07-12 02:01 am UTC

snacky, 2003-07-12 02:12 am UTC

iczer6, 2003-07-12 03:56 am UTC

	jumboclone 2003-07-11 10:14 am UTC (link)
	Damn, that irritated me. I was trying to respond to someone else, too, when she freaking disabled the comments. WHAT GOOD IS A WANK IF YOU CAN'T EVEN TOUCH THE PINK PARTS?! cough Sorry. A bit delirious from the lack of sleep here. [reposted comment because I can't type/I'm an ass] (Reply to this)

	palingenesis 2003-07-11 10:52 am UTC (link)
	I'm rather saddened by the turning off of comments - it really should have gone to fandom_rant if all she wanted was to bring it to light. Surely the point of fandom_wank is that the slavering and rabid f_w massive can chime in or reverse-mock as they see fit? (and I wanted to read the comments on that! and now they're gone! The LOSS! I cry now.) (Reply to this)

	cesare 2003-07-11 11:03 am UTC (link)
	Yup, if people have fandom thoughts or questions, there's fandom_lounge, and if they just wanna vent, there's fandom_rant. Turning off comments = teh lame. Wank ain't wank if you can't touch the dancers. (Reply to this)

	nevadafighter 2003-07-11 12:40 pm UTC (link)
	I recall saying about a month or so ago to "bring the wank to me, so that it may be pleasing to mine eye." Better late than never. looks at the rising sun and dives for her bed (Reply to this)

	aruru 2003-07-11 01:13 pm UTC (link)
	Wow, the wank here goes on for so many levels it's almost not funny anymore. Anyway, I don't know jack shit about any of the obvious personal vendettas going around in this one, so I'll just politely bow out and stick to quietly laughing at the "I don't like you, so don't get into any fandoms I'm into!" and the turning off of comments parts. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	kannaophelia 2003-07-12 06:00 am UTC (link)
	"I don't like you, so don't get into any fandoms I'm into!" Yeah, that got me, too. I'm going to start going around to the homes of everyone I don't like, and confiscate their Enid Blyton books, just in case. Because we are a small and elite fandom, and no one dares join unless I've personally approved them. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	phosfate 2003-07-11 04:28 pm UTC (link)
	And that ends the wanking of, well, me. 500 quatloos says it doesn't. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	snacky 2003-07-11 05:52 pm UTC (link)
	I'll see your 500 quatloos and raise you another 500. Um, what's a quatloo? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

phosfate, 2003-07-11 05:56 pm UTC

snacky, 2003-07-11 06:52 pm UTC

phosfate, 2003-07-11 06:54 pm UTC

snacky, 2003-07-11 07:31 pm UTC

phosfate, 2003-07-11 07:47 pm UTC

cimorene111, 2003-07-11 11:03 pm UTC

	sarahchica 2003-07-11 05:14 pm UTC (link)
	It was an accident. I meant to make it so that the comments weren't email to me. But now I can't access the entry to turn them back on. (Reply to this)

	ktnb 2003-07-11 05:20 pm UTC (link)
	I know you'll probably get mad because I'm defending her again, but it's because she's not online right now. That was an accident. She meant to turn off the function that e-mails comments to you, and accidentally turned them off all together. The comments will be turned back on once she gets online. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	ktnb 2003-07-11 05:22 pm UTC (link)
	And there you go. Tada! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	cmikhailovic 2003-07-11 07:35 pm UTC (link)
	Dude, I couldn't be mad at you. But it is pretty damned convenient that one can comment up till the point where someone disagrees with her, and then whoosh! All gone! And now that this has been pointed out, she's claiming it was some huge mistake. If it really was an accident, it was timed perfectly. You'll forgive me for being suspicious. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

ktnb, 2003-07-11 09:15 pm UTC

sorchar, 2003-07-11 10:30 pm UTC

gabbyhope
2003-07-11 05:28 pm UTC (link)

Could it be true that the fact that she wanked herself (heh) in the first place was to make sure that no one else would? Granted, it's a wank-worthy subject. Granted, most of those who finally got it all out into the open, but only because she grew the balls to put formality aside and ask, happen to be here at JF... so who's to say that she would not have been linked here by someone else? I say she was playing it safe. I say she wanted people to hear it from herself rather than anyone else, who may misconstrue the facts. That's not trying to garner attention and gather people to her side. That's smart.

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	wizzard 2003-07-11 07:06 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I agree with you. As I said above, people keep saying she has no backbone but I think she's shown that she has a heck of a lot more of one than the others involved here. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	resmiranda 2003-07-11 05:38 pm UTC (link)
	I just found it amusing that yes, she IS the spam monster people claim her to be. 15 posts yesterday alone... heehee! Also, I don't believe it for a second. WANK! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	slippery_fish 2003-07-12 01:22 am UTC (link)
	I just found it amusing that yes, she IS the spam monster people claim her to be. 15 posts yesterday alone... heehee! Well, it's her lj so who cares. If that is the reason for people to dislike her, that's the actual wank... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

rikoshi, 2003-07-12 01:39 am UTC

slippery_fish, 2003-07-12 01:43 am UTC

snacky, 2003-07-12 04:51 am UTC

slippery_fish, 2003-07-12 11:45 am UTC

bohicamouse, 2003-07-12 05:39 am UTC

dominonermandi, 2003-07-12 01:58 am UTC

slippery_fish, 2003-07-12 02:18 am UTC

jumboclone, 2003-07-12 03:10 am UTC

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dominonermandi, 2003-07-12 04:00 am UTC

:O !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -

jumboclone, 2003-07-12 07:54 am UTC

schoenschoen
2003-07-12 10:51 am UTC (link)

Uhmm, honestly?

After reading through all the crap in both posts, and checking the "Full Update" page, I think I have to agree with the

sarahchick... errr, chick. Geez, after really *looking* at the 'Disallow comments/don't send e-mail' blocks for the first time, I can say that *I* was confused. *I've never really used them on JF*

I don't know - maybe *I'm* stupid, but since it's 3am here, too, I can see her point. Or maybe I just don't want anyone to reply to me, cuz y'know, I hate that shit. People always coming up with witty things to say, or to agree with me, or to point out something I missed - you know I hate that shit. I think I'll leave right now to avoid it.

Or not.

And furthermore? I would never have had the balls to come out and post in my own LJ "Hey, what do you guys *really* think of me?", because that's just *asking* for people who lurk in the shadows to jump out and start a barbecue at my expense. She was a lot braver than I will ever be, and I don't think hers are the actions of a spineless, clingy, whiny bitch.

In short, "She disabled comments!1! That h0!1!!" is lame wank. Call me when you decide to wank something worth wanking.

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	soy_latte 2003-07-12 11:20 am UTC (link)
	someone would have brought up the disabling comments anyway, like me... whether I agreed with her or not (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

schoenschoen, 2003-07-12 11:42 am UTC

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