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Becky ([info]ruffwriter) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-06-17 16:51:00


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Current mood:Flippant

GAFF wank!
With a topic like, "Pretentious bitch, generic art, character rape," this was destined not to go well.

Touzoku-Joou posts about fanartist MilkyCat in GAFF's fanart boards:

I've hated this artist for a long time. Not only for her bastardizing of my favorite characters, but the fact that she's in her twenties and acts like a sensitive 12 year old. She thinks she's the greatest artist in the worl, and anybody who says otherwise is a TERRIBLE PERSON. She'll throw a tantrum, delete some of her work, and probably go cut herself. Yes, this happens with every critique. But never fear, she has her rabid fangirl fan following to back her up and always help her to come back. Unfortunately.

The OP links to some of MilkyCat's work, then adds, "...just for fun, I dare you guys to go through her gallery and harshly critique whatever you find. Then sit back and watch the firworks."

Things start out normally, with some people joining in the mockery, and others chiming in with, "Uhhh, this isn't GA." As the members engage in a debate about what godawful really means, anyway, the artist shows up to tell them all how much she doesn't care.

Her fans slowly begin to trickle in, calling GAFFers "jealous" and claiming that they're only a bunch of mean, spiteful people with no artistic abilities. The members find these accusations hilarious... but not so hilarious that about half of them don't feel the need to link to their artwork. It all dissolves into one big fallacy-flinging fest from there.

We're on the fourth page now, and still going. It's small, but diverting!




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[info]felinephoenix
2006-06-17 11:03 pm UTC (link)
I like how MilkyCat draws everyone with their emo pastede on yay.

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(no subject) - [info]saintedsin, 2006-06-18 03:00 am UTC

[info]the_merf
2006-06-17 11:16 pm UTC (link)
I'm just impressed that you were actually able to read the wank, given the unsteady performance of the GAFF boards of late. ;)

(Hey, I can read it too! Wow!)

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(no subject) - [info]ruffwriter, 2006-06-17 11:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_merf, 2006-06-17 11:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]v_digitalwytch, 2006-06-17 11:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ayezur, 2006-06-18 12:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]freezer, 2006-06-18 01:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]majorburns, 2006-06-18 04:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - tsuzukilove, 2006-06-18 01:42 am UTC

[info]cyndra_falin
2006-06-17 11:22 pm UTC (link)
Ya gotta love the CAPLOCKS OF RAGE! *nods* Because, as you know, it ALWAYS works and makes everyone agree and back down.

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[info]polygamouse
2006-06-17 11:27 pm UTC (link)
Am I the only one who thinks that MilkyCat's Fred and George look more like Mary-Kate and Ashley Olson? Probably.

Does this stop me from being overly amused by the comparison? Not at all.

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(no subject) - [info]sennet, 2006-06-17 11:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - tsuzukilove, 2006-06-18 01:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misakichi, 2006-06-18 05:38 am UTC

[info]sennet
2006-06-17 11:28 pm UTC (link)
I love that I can't get GAFF to load long enough to explain my self. I didn't mean that Milkycat's art deserves to be i GAFA because she's a bitch. I meant that that was what seemed to be pissing everyone off.

Fuck, I hate the new forums.

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[info]brick_me
2006-06-17 11:29 pm UTC (link)
Is it just me, or was that thread just as boring as the art? MilkyCat, come baaaaaack! Please throw a hissy-fit! Get into a flame-war with the OP with precarious references to old grudges from both sides! Pretty please? No? Meh.

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[info]nlb_muffin
2006-06-17 11:32 pm UTC (link)
One of MilkyCat's supporters: But oh well, I heard that most great artists were never truly appreciated in their time! v_v

It's a little known fact that Picasso's early work was squeed over by many a niƱa.

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(no subject) - [info]seraphtrevs, 2006-06-17 11:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2006-06-18 12:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]semtex, 2006-06-18 01:35 am UTC
OMG COMMENT FAILURE. - [info]semtex, 2006-06-18 01:39 am UTC
Re: OMG COMMENT FAILURE. - [info]hickorydickory, 2006-06-18 01:57 am UTC
Re: OMG COMMENT FAILURE. - [info]semtex, 2006-06-18 06:59 am UTC
Re: OMG COMMENT FAILURE. - [info]hickorydickory, 2006-06-18 08:27 pm UTC
Re: OMG COMMENT FAILURE. - [info]onaga, 2006-06-19 01:38 am UTC
Re: OMG COMMENT FAILURE. - [info]stopthatgirl7, 2006-06-18 07:01 am UTC
Re: OMG COMMENT FAILURE. - dracothelizard, 2006-06-18 01:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]julian_black, 2006-06-18 02:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]semtex, 2006-06-18 07:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hickorydickory, 2006-06-18 02:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]milkshake, 2006-06-18 02:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nicolae, 2006-06-18 05:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2006-06-29 04:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kinneas, 2006-06-18 07:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]acrimonious, 2006-06-18 05:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hickorydickory, 2006-06-18 08:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]april_hurst, 2006-06-18 05:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]demonoflight, 2006-06-19 09:41 am UTC

[info]sharps
2006-06-17 11:34 pm UTC (link)
This wank might be interesting... if I could actually SEE GAFF. I always get the "Sorry, but the server's too busy. Send us ore money to increase bandwidth, or else you have no right to complain ever."* I just bitch to you people about it.

*This message might be somewhat paraphrased.

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(no subject) - [info]innsmouth_eyes, 2006-06-18 12:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]theartema, 2006-06-18 12:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pussycat, 2006-06-20 05:45 am UTC

[info]out_bottle
2006-06-17 11:53 pm UTC (link)
From Jira at GAFF:

Also, even though I'm not in the House fandom, I want to get into it. She writes House fanfic?!

OH, Dear Lawdy, no...

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(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2006-06-18 02:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]acrimonious, 2006-06-18 05:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]semtex, 2006-06-19 05:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]out_bottle, 2006-06-18 05:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2006-06-18 05:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]out_bottle, 2006-06-18 06:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]misakichi, 2006-06-19 03:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wickedwitch, 2006-06-19 08:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]misakichi, 2006-06-19 09:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wickedwitch, 2006-06-19 09:48 pm UTC

[info]stella_polaris
2006-06-18 12:20 am UTC (link)
Her art is boring.

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(no subject) - [info]arionhunter, 2006-06-18 12:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]semtex, 2006-06-18 01:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]julian_black, 2006-06-18 02:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]azhidahaki, 2006-06-18 05:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]semtex, 2006-06-18 06:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]azhidahaki, 2006-06-18 10:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]onaga, 2006-06-19 01:41 am UTC
(no subject) - teawithvoldy, 2006-06-19 06:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]isa, 2006-06-19 08:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]semtex, 2006-06-20 06:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]isa, 2006-06-20 09:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]semtex, 2006-06-20 06:08 am UTC

[info]dreagonfli
2006-06-18 01:05 am UTC (link)
I'd say the pretentious bitch is the one who posted the whole wahhhfest in the first place.

Exactly how do you bastardize a cartoon drawing?

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(no subject) - [info]hickorydickory, 2006-06-18 02:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dreamoflife02, 2006-06-18 05:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ilpalazzo, 2006-06-18 08:31 am UTC

[info]gal_montag
2006-06-18 01:20 am UTC (link)
Anyone wish to provide me with links to MilkyCat's work? The GAFF forums keep crashing my browser.

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(no subject) - [info]arionhunter, 2006-06-18 01:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-06-18 01:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]arionhunter, 2006-06-18 03:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-06-18 03:50 am UTC
(no subject) - winterfox, 2006-06-21 12:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-06-21 12:38 am UTC
(no subject) - winterfox, 2006-06-21 12:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2006-06-18 05:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]footsie, 2006-06-19 03:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]semtex, 2006-06-18 01:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-06-18 01:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]khym_chanur, 2006-06-18 03:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]polygamouse, 2006-06-18 01:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-06-18 01:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hickorydickory, 2006-06-18 02:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-06-18 02:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyrrah, 2006-06-18 06:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]stopthatgirl7, 2006-06-18 07:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2006-06-18 02:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]heddychaa, 2006-06-19 10:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]julian_black, 2006-06-18 02:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misakichi, 2006-06-18 05:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]stopthatgirl7, 2006-06-18 07:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]enoh, 2006-06-18 06:26 pm UTC
...taken from description: - [info]semtex, 2006-06-19 05:27 am UTC
Re: ...taken from description: - [info]misakichi, 2006-06-19 05:29 am UTC
Re: ...taken from description: - [info]semtex, 2006-06-19 11:46 pm UTC
Re: ...taken from description: - [info]duraniedrama, 2006-06-19 10:50 pm UTC
Re: ...taken from description: - [info]semtex, 2006-06-19 11:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]amasaglajax, 2006-06-18 05:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]loonylupinlover, 2006-06-18 10:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]innsmouth_eyes, 2006-06-18 08:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]loonylupinlover, 2006-06-18 10:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]spleen, 2006-06-19 08:55 pm UTC

[info]kahrohseh
2006-06-18 02:02 am UTC (link)
If this is brought up in the GAFF, apologies. If not-- am I the only one noticing a disparity in her quality of art? Like...

male, dated June 9. Note ostrich neck, lack of body definition, pastede on face.

male, dated June 2. Far superior body structure and actually distinctive clothing features. Still the same pastede face, though.

female (nwfs), dated June 10. Apart from ugly-ass linework, demonstrates decent grip of human anatomy.

thingie, dated June 17. WTF? :(

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(no subject) - [info]kahrohseh, 2006-06-18 02:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-06-18 02:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kahrohseh, 2006-06-18 02:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]radiotrash, 2006-06-18 02:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2006-06-18 03:10 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]semtex, 2006-06-19 05:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2006-06-19 04:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]azhidahaki, 2006-06-18 04:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misakichi, 2006-06-18 05:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ironymaiden, 2006-06-18 06:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]azhidahaki, 2006-06-18 10:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ironymaiden, 2006-06-18 10:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]heddychaa, 2006-06-19 10:35 am UTC

[info]theamazingrando
2006-06-18 02:05 am UTC (link)
I don't like her art. It's so... linear. I don't know how to explain it. Everything looks frozen and stiff. Like in the picture of emo!Ed with wings, his hair doesn't look like it's blowing in the wind, it looks like her gelled it so it stands out on an angle.

Meh, I don't know. I haven't taken art since grade ten, so I have no idea how to verbalize critiques properly.

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(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2006-06-18 02:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]julian_black, 2006-06-18 03:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hickorydickory, 2006-06-18 03:48 am UTC
Fixed my tags, and here are my thoughts on this yaoi
tsuzukilove
2006-06-18 02:06 am UTC (link)
I don't like MilkyCat's style of drawing unless she actually made some OCs. It is, IMO, boring, generic, and really just another version of the same old weepy uke idea. Though I don't even care enough to check out her gallery: the pics I saw were enough for me.

That said, the GAFFers were definitely more wanky here, in organizing basically a flame/troll campaign to attack MilkyCat (as opposed to just pointing and giggling at the ukes or offering concrit) and in some of the comments they offered, such as this. . .

Is Milkycat a lesbian in denial? All her "boys" look like teenage girls.

Earth to GAFF: being a lesbian =/= having a compelling urge to remake characters into weepy ukes.

Insomnimaniac on page 2
And I know I don't follow this all the time, but us GAFF users should cut down on the personal attacks. It's against our code. We're suppoused to be snarking the work not the person.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That's hilarity in its truest form. Maybe at one time GAFF (or at least some of the people on there) were more interested in snarking the work or the behavior rather than snarking or punishing the person, but for the last year or so at least, GAFF has been a less-funny SomethingAwful clone. Lots of fanboy posturing and boasting about who's better because they are/are not ______________, combined with organizing troll attacks and flamewars.

Now to make a post on fandom_discuss.

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Re: Fixed my tags, and here are my thoughts on this yaoi - [info]sennet, 2006-06-18 08:40 am UTC
Re: Fixed my tags, and here are my thoughts on this yaoi - tsuzukilove, 2006-06-18 09:57 am UTC

[info]crazedchipmunk
2006-06-18 03:02 am UTC (link)
I'm just amazed that anyone can actually get on GAFF to wank.

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(no subject) - [info]rachelmap, 2006-06-18 06:05 am UTC

[info]xero_sky
2006-06-18 03:06 am UTC (link)
Milkycat makes a fairly innocuous "you're not bothering me, but why do you care?" kind of comment on GAFF and gets the following response:

Hooray for passive-aggressive bullshitting.

Just go all-out with the profanity, sweetheart. That way I can at least temporarily admire your honesty before engaging in a long and ultimately pointless series of insults that will involve your genitalia and the menagerie of diseases that are no doubt multiplying therein.


...

Are things slow on GAFF these days, or did MilkyCat actually run over their pets or something?

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(no subject) - [info]amasaglajax, 2006-06-18 05:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]justicepeckham, 2006-06-18 05:55 pm UTC

[info]rotten_fish
2006-06-18 03:17 am UTC (link)
Dude, they look like something you'd find on a Hallmark card.

Like, "Wish you were here," or "Friendships are Love," "Congratulations on your new girlfriend. Or boyfriend. Whichever," or simply "I'm a not even mildly enticing androgynous boy in a silly outfit. Enjoy this verbose, yet meaningless poem and then lose me between the seat cushions of your sofa. Make sure you check if there's money inside first."

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(no subject) - [info]julian_black, 2006-06-18 03:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2006-06-19 10:40 am UTC

[info]karmyn75
2006-06-18 03:49 am UTC (link)
This is why I stay away from the fanart board at GAFF.

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(no subject) - [info]marumae, 2006-06-18 04:55 am UTC

sharonapple
2006-06-18 04:43 am UTC (link)
Eh, her art looks like every other mediocre artist you come across on dA.

She has pulled a Chancery though, right here she lists GAFF as her "Personal Hate Club".

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(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2006-06-18 04:51 am UTC
(no subject) - sharonapple, 2006-06-18 04:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dez_chan, 2006-06-18 07:07 am UTC

[info]aerobot
2006-06-18 06:44 am UTC (link)
But oh well, I heard that most great artists were never truly appreciated in their time!

Wow, yes, a hundred years from now there will be thousands of bored art students learning about the virtues of MilkyCat. WOE WE ARE SO UNFORTUNATE TO LOSE HER SO SOON.

That actually beats the 'personal hate club' quip in terms of ego.

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(no subject) - teawithvoldy, 2006-06-19 06:43 am UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2006-06-18 07:46 am UTC (link)
This would be awesome if I could actually read the wank.

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From her devart:
[info]kinneas
2006-06-18 08:05 am UTC (link)
I doodled this little AC Cloud at work yesterday inbetween phone calls. I might do the rest of the cast...meh, prolly not Barret or Cid. They aren't exactly my fav charries

FUCK YOU. SIT DOWN, SHUT THE HELL UP, AND DRINK YOUR GODDAMN TEA.

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Re: From her devart: - [info]felinephoenix, 2006-06-18 06:59 pm UTC
Re: From her devart: - [info]semtex, 2006-06-19 05:40 am UTC
Re: From her devart: - [info]churri, 2006-06-19 07:16 am UTC
Re: From her devart: - [info]kinneas, 2006-06-19 07:18 am UTC
Re: From her devart: - [info]marsdragon, 2006-06-20 08:00 am UTC
Re: From her devart: - [info]kinneas, 2006-06-20 05:10 pm UTC
Re: From her devart: - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2006-06-29 04:48 pm UTC

[info]life_on_mars
2006-06-18 09:05 am UTC (link)
"...just for fun, I dare you guys to go through her gallery and harshly critique whatever you find. Then sit back and watch the firworks."

And then we can go to the zoo and poke the lions with sticks!

Jeez, as if there wasn't enough wank in the world already. What does this person do for fun the rest of the time, pull the wings off fairies and set fire to kittens? I know nothing about any of the people involved and care even less, but deliberate provocation like this redefines the word 'stupid'. Touzoku-Joou needs to either get a real life or learn to masturbate; this is someone who seriously needs a hobby.

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(no subject) - [info]cyndra_falin, 2006-06-18 09:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]out_bottle, 2006-06-18 09:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rabbitrabbit, 2006-06-20 03:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]footsie, 2006-06-20 04:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rabbitrabbit, 2006-06-20 04:59 am UTC

[info]kahrohseh
2006-06-18 06:34 pm UTC (link)
Okay, this girl's definitely an art thief. She's tracing or she's jacking poses but either way she's not kosher. It explains her fanbase a little though.

Random juxtaposes?

This predates this by six months.

Or how about these facial features predating these by less than two weeks.

...Right, fine. Back to chasing windmills.

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(no subject) - [info]theamazingrando, 2006-06-18 11:23 pm UTC


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