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Mockingbird ([info]mockingbird) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-06-28 10:13:00


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The World Cup brings out the Elite Monsters in them...
http://community.livejournal.com/footballslash/445466.html

[info]footballslash gets closed for new members while the World Cup still lasts, because If you are serious about joining the community now, you'll be just as serious next week.

People get pissed:

like [info]dork_elf:
These folks are enthusiastic and joyful about footballslash in a way that, frankly, most of the continuous membership isn't anymore. How refreshing is it to have people around who want to share in the things we enjoy, who want to meet new folks, and aren't looking down on people. The whole 'you're not a real fan' thing is no fun to be on the receiving end

Same user, another comment:
We're the only community for it, and we have a small window of opportunity to cultivate a good relationship with new fans. Telling them 'cross your legs until WE think you've proven your interest' may not kill their interest in football or slash, but I know it would hve killed my interest in this community when I was new.

[info]sapphireblue88 is affected by the new rule and comments too:
when I first read this message, I thought of the Portugal/Netherlands match where the ref just lost control of the game. Closing off membership is like giving out a red card for a dive in the midfield; it accomplishes nothing and is just frustrating.

That one gets a replay by moderator [info]rwrockdj that would get a red card too, and does not help at all
It's not about annoyance. We deal with things that annoy us all the time, but we will not stand for offensive and insulting behavior.



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(Anonymous)
2006-06-28 10:38 am UTC (link)
I've never got the whole true fan label. Whenever the phrase true fan is mentioned, it spreads the splooge.

-sweeneytodd @ lj

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-28 10:40 am UTC (link)
Wow, something I snarked about in my journal turns up in f_w. The non-joining especially hurt last night as I was trying to cheer myself up after Spain did what they do EVERY SINGLE TIME IN A BIG TOURNAMENT!

Oh, that and the dangerously low levels of Figo/Portuguese Brat in the community.

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[info]brick_me
2006-06-28 10:54 am UTC (link)
As a non-fan of football living in a football-loving country, the WC is like a storm that I duck my head to keep out of and wait for to pass. I can sort of understand the WC being the same sort of thing for people who are every-day football fans.

However ... so what if the new members won't be fans by next week? Who cares? Maybe they'll write porn in that one week that they're fans! Score! And if the porn good, who has anything at all to complain about?!

And now, back to Wimbledon.

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[info]knightrider
2006-06-28 10:55 am UTC (link)
If I had been interested at all, that would certainly have put me off. Nothing worse than snot-nosed elitism in ANY fandom.

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-28 11:06 am UTC (link)
in response to the complaining about elitism, some folks have proposed making a new comm, just for elite writers/elite fans. perhaps they should call it football[SS]lash.

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-28 11:07 am UTC (link)
...is it bad that the first thing I thought when I read "footballslash" was Soccer: it's all about playing with balls...?

~Mousey Mousey

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(no subject) - [info]stopthatgirl7, 2006-06-29 10:27 am UTC
Damn!
[info]life_on_mars
2006-06-28 11:18 am UTC (link)
Where was the footballslash community in the days when I, you know, cared ... ?

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[info]bubosquared
2006-06-28 11:22 am UTC (link)
*slinks away into the shadows* i hate it when i turn a comm/list over to someone else and they turn all wanky as shit

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-28 11:24 am UTC (link)

It is all complete wank.

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[info]supertetris
2006-06-28 11:37 am UTC (link)
*boggle*

Bandwagon...sports RPS porno fans? There's a bandwagon for that? Really now?

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-28 12:31 pm UTC (link)
With that kind of attitude toward new members I'm suprised people will join at all when they open membership again.

I mean, if they'll treat people like this BEFORE they join, how are they going to treat them after they do?

- Kobura/sewer_snake@lj

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-28 01:22 pm UTC (link)
There's such a thing as football slash?

Well, makes sense I suppose... the hugging, the sweating, the kissing, the pile ons, the clinging, the bodies, the pretty...

Uh...

Yes...

This community wants no new members you say? Damn. Asshats they be!

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-28 01:24 pm UTC (link)
But you're missing the (http://leetje.livejournal.com/398892.html) best (http://leetje.livejournal.com/399935.html) part (http://leetje.livejournal.com/400341.html)!

Skimming through these comments is all kinds of quick and easy fun.

That's exactly what makes footballslash so unique. I didn't know why I felt sometimes uneasy reading new fics, although they were written well enough... but, yes. That's it. They wrote it just as a fic where the characters are pretty much interchangeable, where you can just take them out and insert other football players, even other sportsmen - in case the fic takes part in a locker room, under the shower, at hotels etc. - and it would still work as well - technically executed perfectly, but without any or only the barest personal references, and just picking random football players just based on their looks or their popularity or whatever standards they meet with the writer of the fic.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't characters who are totally interchangable and have no defining characteristics other than being sexay a bad thing in any fandom?

it's cliquey, but there are about, I reckon, forty or fifty people you and I both know have all the same feelings as you've mentioned and basically have fuck all to do with the comm as it is so...yeah. Not actually that cliquey when it's that many people and we're all after the same thing!

It's not that they're elitist, they just don't like you.

But I don't like that members can't be trusted to post. Really don't.

Wait, lurkers in a community are actually lurking? Like... stalkers? Who knew.

I suppose a lot of people would just see it as being too strict, too rule-orientated, too...what's the word...democratic? Political, or whatever.

No need for comment, I think.

And lastly, you were spotted:

Ah, fandom wank. Not bothered by it all, amused is more liked it.

They always are.

And somehow "we don't want to seem unwelcoming" abruptly translates into: footballslashelite (http://community.livejournal.com/fbslashelite/profile).

"elite" isn't bad/snotty/bitchy/betterthanthou per se. It's really all about quality and that's what you - who said yes - want; quality posts, meaning no annoyances et all. Right?

Er. Right.

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-28 01:31 pm UTC (link)
Ha, I've been waiting for this to get wanked.

Just to add to the fun: leetje posts a poll asking about starting a new footballslash community (http://leetje.livejournal.com/399935.html).

Let me also make it clear that this community would not be created with the purpose to rival with the current one, but it would be offered as a sensible alternative.

Uh-huh.

And then they segue into a discussion of BNF-dom (except we can't call it that, oh no! because...I don't know why, actually) and why calling yourself "elite" is or isn't a good thing.

And voila! A new community is born: fbslashelite (http://community.livejournal.com/fbslashelite/profile).

This community was created after there was an invasion at footballslash. New members flooded the community with all sorts of posts that were either completely off topic, extremely fangirlish, or badly constructed in the sense of grammar and spelling.

We appreciate that sometimes people like that kind of thing, however, sometimes other people like to get through their flist without getting annoyed/irritated/upset by ignorance/grammar/stupidity, and so we have created a mini refuge. We don't bite, and we just enjoy common sense, football, a good laugh, and beautiful people.


Oh, and also now there's an anonymous rant community (http://football-rants.livejournal.com/).

*sniff* My little fandom, all grown up! It's so cute! Although I still think the footballslashers have a lot more work to do before they can really claim to be, um, "elite" wankers.

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[info]sgtgeorgecarter
2006-06-28 01:38 pm UTC (link)
Man, I just left that community too...

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-28 01:51 pm UTC (link)
Haven't you heard? We are trying to get as infamous as the HP/LOTR/ANIME fandom. Still a long long way too go, I know. ;-)

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dracothelizard
2006-06-28 02:01 pm UTC (link)
But... wouldn't they like some new members who're inspired by the World cup or something? Netherlands/Portugal players hatesex or something?

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-28 02:57 pm UTC (link)
Hee. I was wondering when something like this was going to happen to my little community.

~saint_kat

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-28 03:06 pm UTC (link)
Ah, fandom wank. Not bothered by it all, amused is more liked it.

How come they're always 'amused' by it? Or 'actually, I think it's funny more than anything else', or 'pfft, who cares?'. No wanker ever, ever says 'shit guys, I made Fandom Wank, maybe I was acting like a bit of a dick, sorry' or anything that might, y'know, win them back some dignity. Instead it's always some 'I don't care' crap that smacks of denial.

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[info]sprungtodrown
2006-06-28 03:34 pm UTC (link)
I was always pretty leery of real people slash to begin with...but elitist real people slash is a bit ultra-frightening-stalker-hiding-in-the-locker-room-with-rope-and-cling-wrap-oh-and-I-have-a-hook-for-a-hand
kinda creepy.

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anon..blah
(Anonymous)
2006-06-28 03:49 pm UTC (link)
i don't really know where else to post, this. But how come journalfen wont let me signup for an account??

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Re: anon..blah - [info]panthea, 2006-06-28 04:38 pm UTC
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(Anonymous)
2006-06-28 03:50 pm UTC (link)
Hm. I suppose we should just close all HP communities when the next book comes out...

Who wants newbies anyway?

~D

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(no subject) - [info]zyna_kat, 2006-06-29 07:16 pm UTC

[info]darkstarrie
2006-06-28 04:29 pm UTC (link)
Was scanning wank, at first I thought it said [info]foosballslash.

Thankfully, I don't think that exists.

It would be rather sad though, wouldn't it? "They gaze longingly into each other's tiny plastic eyes, knowing they can never be together..."

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[info]hallidae
2006-06-28 05:18 pm UTC (link)
Elitism wank. It's like viagra for the e-peenor.

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