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Little Valkyrie ([info]waltraute) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-07-07 23:33:00


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Entry tags:fandom: harry potter, person: fpb

HP fandom: throwing vitriol in your face
What would f_w be without the occasional HP meta argument that becomes so batshit as to cross the line into wank?

[info]sistermagpie writes a post about the issues regarding Marietta and Hermione. A little tl;dr as always, but all is fine and dandy and the OP isn't wanky, until newbie [info]marionros (who was dragged into the fandom and is going to be very disappointed if the books don't live up to her specific expectations) enters the scene and proceeds to make some very enlightening comparisons:

Now, I'm Dutch. My English is usually good enough to get my thoughts across (though barely) but my cultural 'style' of debate often clashes with the American one.

There should be a square on Wanker Bingo for invoking your own nationality as an excuse. Is there a law about this one?

Amnesty International fights - amongst other things - against the facial disfigurement of women (throwing acid in a womans face is a popular 'punishment' of 'bad' women in countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh)

If MsScribe had written it, I think it would go something like Dear Msscribe,

My vry domnant husband, he reads Harry Potter and the Orders of the Phonix and he is get an idea to throws acid on my face. But your porn is empowering the acid a way.


Attack of the [info]fpbesque capitalization!

I'm committed to Reason, you see. Emotion, sympathy, passion, these are all wonderful things, but Reason is the structure of life that keeps us sane between all these conflicting emotions.

No, never an appeal to emotions, as shown by:

What's next? Pansy Parkinson shoots her mouth off and Harry, Ron and Nevill decide to 'shut her up' by group raping her? Hey, it shut her up, didn't it? And she was a slag anyway, so she *deserved* it, right?
No. Not even counting the fact that there are other ways to deal with the problem, rape is simply not a way to 'punish' (quite apart from the fact that the right to punish lies in the hands of those in authority - in Pansy's case this would be her parents, her teachers or the law, NOT Potter and co.) No good person would ever rape. No good person would ever disfigure another person. It's as simple as that, to me.


Elsewhere, the batshit really flourishes with her angry reaction to someone's comments about their own fic:

Who knows what you'd do, if permanent facial disfigurement of a sixteen year old girl by another sixteen year old girl is your idea of justice. You'd throw vitriol in my face (popular with vindictive women in the 19th century. "Hey, bitch! I loved the man you're gonna marry! I'll make sure you'll be a blushing bride!" *splash* *augh!* *whimper* *mad howling laughter*)

Something about the actions in asterisks just brings the whole overreaction to life. Remember, Harry Potter is Serious Ethical Business!

ETA: If someone posts this to [info]wankitywank, I know I'm seriously to blame.

ETA2: Does anyone know a way, besides counting, to tell how many comments one user has made on a single post? I think [info]fpb is pushing 33% here by now.

ETA3: Thank you rotten_fish for making the best possible summary on wankitywank, but you'll have to keep updating, it's still going.

Also, the wiki has been updated for your browsing convenience.

ETA4: Since [info]fpb has been banned, he can't respond to your witty comments, either. All hail Snacky.




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[info]kelschuu
2006-07-07 11:54 pm UTC (link)
...I think someone is taking pimples a little too seriously.

Didn't Hermione give her really bad acne?

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Icon love! - tsuzukilove, 2006-07-08 11:24 am UTC
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[info]gunshou
2006-07-08 12:02 am UTC (link)
Jesus in a jaccuzzi. Were none of these people teenagers? I did some pretty stupid and cruel shit then that I would never do now that I've grown up a bit.

But I forget, JKR is god, and her good characters must be perfect in every way. Realistic (if inconsistant) characterization in a book with magic in it = BAD!

Hermione really should have just slept with Marietta instead of cursing her, since good sex leads to world harmony. And chocolate sauce.

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[info]bluenakedlady
2006-07-08 12:03 am UTC (link)
Someone please get her out of my nationality? Pretty please? I offer cookies...

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(no subject) - [info]metrocowboy, 2006-07-10 08:14 am UTC

[info]darkrose
2006-07-08 12:04 am UTC (link)
So acne leads to rape, which presumably leads to the dark side, which leads to roboclaw? Wha'?

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YES! - [info]singe, 2006-07-08 07:34 pm UTC
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[info]lulinda
2006-07-08 12:18 am UTC (link)
I still want to know how people so badly misread the books. It's baffling.

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[info]esclaramonde
2006-07-08 12:30 am UTC (link)
These people are trying to make me have to stop being a bit perturbed about the whole permanent pimples thing. I'm going to start cheering Hermione about it.

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[info]arabwel
2006-07-08 12:34 am UTC (link)
... so who am I going to sue because I have acne and that is so ZOMG HORRIBLY DIFIGURING?!

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[info]pyratejenni
2006-07-08 12:37 am UTC (link)
Jeebus. If you don't like the books, why join the fandom? Did you friends hold you at gunpoint or something?

Why is it always the people who are "dedicated to Reason" or Objectionism or whatever self-indulgent 'pulled myself up by my bootstraps' wish-fulfillment they like best the ones who fly off the handle first and hardest? Why? Can anyone tell me that, please? I'll give you cookies.

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[info]sprungtodrown
2006-07-08 01:06 am UTC (link)
I'm committed to Reason, you see. Emotion, sympathy, passion, these are all wonderful things, but Reason is the structure of life that keeps us sane between all these conflicting emotions.

Why is reason capitalized? Is this like personification? Is reason being given a body and a mind of its own? Or is Reason someone's name? If that's the case then that statement is one powerful love letter there.

.........

Oh and acne=teh evhel like acid and rape

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[info]waterfront
2006-07-08 01:29 am UTC (link)
Is that Reason spelled bee ess?

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[info]waterfront
2006-07-08 01:30 am UTC (link)
ALSO, geez, your nationality and any purported differences in debating styles have nothing to do with an incredible inability to compose a logical, reasoned argument.

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[info]gina
2006-07-08 01:35 am UTC (link)
Disfigurement -> Rape? Huh. I hope she fell into the canyon of logic, cus that leap is mighty big.

Maybe he should *detention* for being so naughty, shouldn't he? But wait! He nearly killed a fellow student with an unknown spell (he was damn lucky a teacher was there to heal the kid or he would've been thrown in Azkaban for murder, kid or not) and all he got for it was detention - and then he got all *angry* at the mean ol' teacher for giving him detention because it made him miss Quidditch and stuff...

Teenagers beating the shit outta each other and being angry? WOW. I've never heard of such a thing!

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[info]carlanime
2006-07-08 01:48 am UTC (link)
Reason is the structure of life that keeps us sane between all these conflicting emotions.

Oh noes: it's stopped working!

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[info]tao_tao
2006-07-08 01:53 am UTC (link)
I call troll.
That last comment was hilarious, but still an annoying troll.

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[info]willywanka
2006-07-08 01:54 am UTC (link)
There's a growing trend in the media to show tv shows about, for instance, a medium trying to contact peoples' deceased loved ones and more of that sh*t. Educational programs, or programmes that use Reason as its foundation are being cancelled because "it's not what people want to see". This scares me.

Yes, it's truly terrifying that televisions companies wish to air programs which will draw the most viewers, regardless of how stupid those programs are. I sleep with the light on.

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catatonia
2006-07-08 02:23 am UTC (link)
I love it when newbies come in excited and all guns blazing.

'HP Fandom - it was there before you got a Live Journal account, and it will probably still be around after you leave.'

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[info]honorh
2006-07-08 02:24 am UTC (link)
Giving a teenager perma-pimples=throwing acid in her face=rape. Ah. I think I've got it now.

. . . no, seriously, what?

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[info]narcissam
2006-07-08 02:41 am UTC (link)
Who knows what you'd do, if permanent facial disfigurement of a sixteen year old girl by another sixteen year old girl is your idea of justice. You'd throw vitriol in my face (popular with vindictive women in the 19th century. "Hey, bitch! I loved the man you're gonna marry! I'll make sure you'll be a blushing bride!" *splash* *augh!* *whimper* *mad howling laughter*)

Yeah, because the way to worship Reason and Logic? Suggest the person you're arguing with would throw acid at your face.

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[info]skewed_tartan
2006-07-08 03:32 am UTC (link)
So the way the Dutch debate is by seeing who can make the most outlnadish claims possible?

(Just poking fun at her btw, not all the Dutch, heaven knows every nation must have at least one loudmouthed idiot.)

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[info]sunhawk
2006-07-08 03:36 am UTC (link)
i say what and i stick with what @_@

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[info]castellated
2006-07-08 03:56 am UTC (link)
Safer, I think, to say this here than there: Hermione didn't "hex" Marietta with pimples. Marietta betrayed her own promise of secrecy, ratting on her supposed friends, and she paid a price for being a rotten fucking fink. This wasn't idle malice on Hermione's part. Sheesh. (Mind you, an ounce of prevention would've been worth a pound of pimples, really).


Uh oh. That was dangerously close to wank right there, wasn't it? Erk...

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[info]adora_spintriae
2006-07-08 03:57 am UTC (link)
tl;fuckingdr, man.

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[info]sadisticferret
2006-07-08 04:05 am UTC (link)
Jesus, all this over fucking pimples. ~shakes head~ Now where'd I put that bottle of Captain Morgan?

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[info]omnicrom
2006-07-08 04:07 am UTC (link)
Rape=Pimples?

Yes and birds go tweet.

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