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Freezer - a buffet of manliness! ([info]freezer) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-07-15 09:05:00


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Entry tags:community: scans_daily

Misogyny: What it means, how to spell it, and other comic wank.
Over at Scans Daily, [info]adora_spintriae posts scans from DC's "Brave New World" - a comic about the loss of magic from 99.9% of the DCU (Apparently, really powerful magic-powered characters like Captain Marvel and Black Adam are just fine).

The scans she posts depict Mary Marvel's powers going "poof" in mid air, and her subsequent plummet, which Adora takes offense to, as Captain Marvel only gets a bit of grey hair, and Captain Marvel Jr.'s powers get yoinked in the middle of a fight, which gets him tossed through a ground-level window.

[info]kamino_neko points out that Judd Winnick states in an interview that both Mary and Junior will be a part of his upcoming "Trials of Shazam" mini-series, so Mary's probably not dead.

Adora states that this doesn't mean Mary doesn't go splat and get ressurected. She also sees this as evidence of DC's ongoing policiy of "Refrigeration", in that Mary's predicament is far more dire than her male counterparts.

Kamino thinks she's diluting the term "refrigeration" by using it for a character who is not currently being brutally killed.

And the green flag is waved on the wank!

Others chime in to wonder why Mary's predicament is so much worse than Junior's, seeing as his unpowered form is a cripple

And there's spelling wank

And a not-very funny, semi-facetious invocation of Godwin's Law.

And somewhere in the midst, a lone post by yours truly.

There's something for everybody, here. Jump in and bring Kleenex!

ETA: It's "M-I-S-O-G-Y-N-Y", dammit! (Thanks, [info]m_butterfly!)



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[info]m_butterfly
2006-07-15 06:32 pm UTC (link)
I was wondering when one of Adora_Spinwhatever's S_D posts would sprout wank. Color me shocked it isn't one of the manga ones, though, considering those come with a giant bolded preface about how she doesn't care about your thoughts on yaoi.

Now we get to see if she follows pattern and espouses an entirely different position here on JF than she did on the wank.

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[info]pyrrah
2006-07-15 07:33 pm UTC (link)
I was hoping it was a different Adora, and my surprise that it took this long.

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(no subject) - [info]m_butterfly, 2006-07-15 09:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]freezer, 2006-07-15 09:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]m_butterfly, 2006-07-15 09:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]freezer, 2006-07-15 09:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]scootermcgaffin, 2006-07-15 09:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]freezer, 2006-07-15 09:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]scootermcgaffin, 2006-07-15 09:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]marsdragon, 2006-07-16 08:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seraphtrevs, 2006-07-15 11:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]windex_junkie, 2006-07-17 09:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyrrah, 2006-07-15 09:16 pm UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2006-07-16 02:06 am UTC (link)
Since you seem to be such a keen observer of my behaviour I would have thought you'd know that when a wank I am involved in gets reported, my usual reaction is "I was wondering when this would show up here".

So, I was wondering when this would show up here.

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(no subject) - [info]m_butterfly, 2006-07-16 04:18 am UTC

[info]kadath
2006-07-15 06:42 pm UTC (link)
Wait wait...there are still people reading Captain Marvel?

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All I want to know is-
[info]taktuk
2006-07-15 06:44 pm UTC (link)
Will anyone think of poor Tim Hunter?

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Re: All I want to know is-
[info]freezer
2006-07-15 06:49 pm UTC (link)
Will anyone think of poor Tim Hunter?

He thinks of you...

And wishes you'd stop calling him a "Harry Potter ripoff."

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Re: All I want to know is- - [info]taktuk, 2006-07-15 06:51 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]freezer, 2006-07-15 07:14 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]taktuk, 2006-07-15 07:25 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]nebbieq, 2006-07-16 11:52 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]taktuk, 2006-07-17 04:23 am UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]greenling, 2006-07-17 08:46 am UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]taktuk, 2006-07-17 06:56 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is-
[info]panthea
2006-07-15 07:42 pm UTC (link)
Depends. Does he think of us naked?

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Re: All I want to know is- - [info]m_butterfly, 2006-07-15 08:14 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]taktuk, 2006-07-15 08:45 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is-
[info]crysiana
2006-07-15 08:53 pm UTC (link)
Oh, Tim. ♥ So unappreciated. ...and so classified with the Young Wizards books and the Discworld as a ripoff of Harry Potter, what with these other authors and their pesky time machines.

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Re: All I want to know is- - [info]taktuk, 2006-07-15 08:55 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]gloria_mundi, 2006-07-15 08:57 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]freezer, 2006-07-15 08:59 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]crysiana, 2006-07-15 09:08 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]alpheratz, 2006-07-15 10:05 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]freezer, 2006-07-15 10:16 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]alpheratz, 2006-07-15 10:19 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]scootermcgaffin, 2006-07-15 10:32 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]alpheratz, 2006-07-15 10:34 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]scootermcgaffin, 2006-07-15 10:56 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]wal_lace, 2006-07-15 11:25 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]scootermcgaffin, 2006-07-15 11:37 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]taktuk, 2006-07-16 01:27 am UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]renata_hpjc, 2006-07-19 10:50 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]threegoldfish, 2006-07-17 04:28 am UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]taktuk, 2006-07-15 09:06 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]crysiana, 2006-07-15 09:07 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]taktuk, 2006-07-15 09:12 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]m_butterfly, 2006-07-15 09:33 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]taktuk, 2006-07-15 09:43 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]dark_puck, 2006-07-16 03:32 am UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]taktuk, 2006-07-16 07:05 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]aeanagwen, 2006-07-17 10:29 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]mcity, 2006-07-15 11:51 pm UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]taktuk, 2006-07-16 01:21 am UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]mcity, 2006-07-16 01:27 am UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]taktuk, 2006-07-16 01:35 am UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]mcity, 2006-07-16 01:41 am UTC
Re: All I want to know is- - [info]taktuk, 2006-07-16 01:45 am UTC

[info]nekoama
2006-07-15 07:16 pm UTC (link)
Aw, and here I was coming to post this. I thought I was early! *snaps fingers*

I'm sick of women, who advocate and advocate equality between the sexes, get all pissy when something bad happens to the fairer sex. As it's been pointed out Junior got a much worse end of the deal. Besides, the writers probably rolled the dice to see who would die from falling. It IS DC.

Oh internet arguments, making my lunchbreak pissy.

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Off topic, kinda. - [info]seiberwing, 2006-07-15 08:12 pm UTC
Re: Off topic, kinda. - [info]seraphtrevs, 2006-07-15 09:00 pm UTC
Re: Off topic, kinda. - [info]hallidae, 2006-07-15 10:23 pm UTC
Re: Off topic, kinda. - [info]mcity, 2006-07-15 11:59 pm UTC
Re: Off topic, kinda. - [info]seiberwing, 2006-07-16 12:04 am UTC
Re: Off topic, kinda. - [info]felinephoenix, 2006-07-16 12:21 am UTC
Re: Off topic, kinda. - [info]seiberwing, 2006-07-16 12:22 am UTC
Re: Off topic, kinda. - [info]felinephoenix, 2006-07-16 12:26 am UTC
Re: Off topic, kinda. - [info]seiberwing, 2006-07-16 12:30 am UTC
*curious* - [info]adora_spintriae, 2006-07-16 03:19 am UTC
Re: *curious* - [info]seiberwing, 2006-07-16 03:24 am UTC
Re: *curious* - [info]adora_spintriae, 2006-07-16 03:28 am UTC
Re: *curious* - [info]seiberwing, 2006-07-16 03:30 am UTC
Re: *curious* - [info]adora_spintriae, 2006-07-16 03:31 am UTC
Re: *curious* - [info]seiberwing, 2006-07-16 03:34 am UTC
*wanky ignorant Australian, ahoy* - [info]adora_spintriae, 2006-07-16 03:37 am UTC
Re: *wanky ignorant Australian, ahoy* - [info]seiberwing, 2006-07-16 03:40 am UTC
Re: *curious* - [info]freezer, 2006-07-16 03:35 am UTC

[info]amyheartssiroc
2006-07-15 08:25 pm UTC (link)
Wait. So if a female character gets killed off without a male character getting killed off too, that's misogyny? Who knew!

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(no subject) - [info]arekuru, 2006-07-15 08:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2006-07-15 09:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lyppy, 2006-07-15 11:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]toph, 2006-07-16 03:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2006-07-16 07:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyrrah, 2006-07-16 01:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-07-16 01:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]arekuru, 2006-07-16 07:31 am UTC
Word - [info]adora_spintriae, 2006-07-16 11:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wal_lace, 2006-07-15 09:47 pm UTC
Slightly OT but...
[info]dommichan
2006-07-15 08:46 pm UTC (link)
Does anyone know what's up with the WiR site? The links to the male comic writers reactions ran away apparently.

And...Spoiler not getting a memorial case in the Batcave for either of her costumes while Jason still has one and he's all better from being dead? That's misogyny. Mary falling down for a bit to have been shown in a different comic that she's going to be okay? Yeah, not so much.

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Re: Slightly OT but... - [info]freezer, 2006-07-15 09:34 pm UTC
Re: Slightly OT but... - [info]dommichan, 2006-07-16 04:50 am UTC
Re: Slightly OT but... - (Anonymous), 2006-07-19 04:29 pm UTC

[info]pinkranger
2006-07-15 09:11 pm UTC (link)
You'll excuse me for being a bit WTFed out that it's still okay for the only woman of the group to be equal to a character who is infantile and a "junior", and in his human identity, physically disabled (which yes, is an issue).

So, she should be treated both equal to men, and greater than? What's the opposite of misogyny again?

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(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2006-07-15 09:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pinkranger, 2006-07-15 09:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2006-07-15 09:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2006-07-15 11:23 pm UTC
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[info]esclaramonde
2006-07-15 09:36 pm UTC (link)
Mike Smith cameo.

I hate when people have viewpoints I agree with (there is a need for more equality between female and male characters - although I think a good start would be the costumes and not "let's take every example of a woman in danger as misogyny", but I don't read superhero comics so what do I know) and then pushes it so far that I want them off my side.

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(no subject) - [info]tardis, 2006-07-15 10:16 pm UTC
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[info]glossing2
2006-07-15 10:06 pm UTC (link)
So, when can I have my girl-wonder.org personal blog?

Is that a rhetorical question?

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[info]evilprettykitty
2006-07-15 10:33 pm UTC (link)
And yet all I can think is still Judd Winnick was on Real World!

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(no subject) - [info]zuzu, 2006-07-16 04:53 am UTC
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[info]sepiamagpie
2006-07-15 11:26 pm UTC (link)
AHAHhahahaha.

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(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2006-07-16 01:12 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]dark_puck, 2006-07-16 03:37 am UTC
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[info]mcity
2006-07-16 12:16 am UTC (link)
[info]psyjoe_dilandau: My take on this mysogyny angle:

Don't call it until after Mary splats on the ground and dies. Otherwise, you're just arguing over the hypothetical.
[info]adora_spintriae: It's DC. No, I'm not.
Well, that settles that. C'mon everybody, lets go home.
[info]psyjoe_dilandau: 1. Well, EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEE ME, princess!
Win.

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veering dangerously ot: - [info]waterfront, 2006-07-16 01:08 am UTC
Re: veering dangerously ot: - [info]mcity, 2006-07-16 01:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]waterfront, 2006-07-16 01:13 am UTC
urk. - [info]waterfront, 2006-07-16 01:14 am UTC
Re: urk. - [info]goblin, 2006-07-18 01:12 am UTC
Re: veering dangerously ot: - [info]arionhunter, 2006-07-16 04:34 am UTC
Re: veering dangerously ot: - [info]felinephoenix, 2006-07-16 04:34 am UTC

[info]castellated
2006-07-16 01:03 am UTC (link)
I've just realized I must be a tired out feminist because I find myself wondering why anyone would go into a testosterone bastion such as superhero comics and bitch about misogyny in the first place. Uh, duh? Not that it's inappropriate to fight the battle for gender equality, but maybe there are more productive venues for the fight. It makes me think of going into the diviest of hick bars at midnight and screaming at the patrons for not having memorized Shakespeare's complete works, you know? You gotta choose your battles and battlegrounds sensibly if you expect to win.

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(no subject) - [info]freezer, 2006-07-16 07:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2006-07-17 12:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]adora_spintriae, 2006-07-17 06:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luthe, 2006-07-16 07:32 pm UTC
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iwanttobeasleep
2006-07-16 01:39 am UTC (link)
tl;dr

But does [info]adora_spintriae really rub anyone else the wrong way? I can't be the only one. . .

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(no subject) - [info]haunted, 2006-07-16 02:32 am UTC
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[info]pragmatic
2006-07-16 01:45 am UTC (link)
Eep. I can't be the only one here who forsees a wankitywank incident.

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(no subject) - flightstothesea, 2006-07-16 02:01 am UTC
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[info]vigilanterodent
2006-07-16 05:22 am UTC (link)
See, this is comic book wank I can't really get into so much. A) Mary probably hasn't died, B) even if she did, that scene doesn't particularly sexualize it, and C) it's not just her in her family. The problem with comic book superheroines isn't that they die, it's that they die in scenes straight out of hardcore SM videos.

I still think the whole no-more-magic plot concept is incredibly lame, mind you.

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(no subject) - [info]skewed_tartan, 2006-07-16 05:28 am UTC
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[info]pipssister
2006-07-16 05:44 am UTC (link)
I don't care about Mary Marvel. I just want to know if there's been any Brave New World vs. House of M (Marvel's story where all of the unpopular mutants lost their powers) wank. Or did I sleep through it?

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(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2006-07-16 07:49 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2006-07-16 08:11 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2006-07-21 04:07 am UTC

[info]pokecheck
2006-07-16 05:50 am UTC (link)
Misogyny.

Mysoginy.

My S.O. Ginny.

OMG!

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(no subject) - [info]missdaisy, 2006-07-16 06:18 am UTC
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[info]snacky
2006-07-16 05:39 pm UTC (link)
You should probably know, in the tags, you spelled 'refrigerator' incorrectly.

It's spelled "M-I-S-O-G-Y-N-Y", dammit!

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(no subject) - [info]freezer, 2006-07-16 06:01 pm UTC

[info]sprungtodrown
2006-07-16 06:51 pm UTC (link)
Oy! Sometimes I see the causes that I believe in and get all excited. And then I see the people fighting for them and think, "Damn, we're gonna lose."

Being overly pretentious about spelling or just wanky in general will not convert people to your side, it will actually turn people away because they'll think "Gee, you're not to be listened to because you don't make calm rational arguments on the facts, you just splooge over spelling."

/end rant

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