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Roffling all over the wanking world (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} adora_spintriae) wrote in ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/community.gif){kind=small} fandom_wank,@ 2006-07-26 10:05:00 |
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Stargate Slash Wank
I Don't Like slash, So There wank a-happening, apparently focused around the Stargate Fandom. The hot-button part of the post is the "I'm not anti-gay. I'm pro-artistic integrity" excuse.
Apparently there are no snarky comments allowed, because "In a personal journal the intent is more to discuss a concept, not make arbitrary shallow simplifications of concepts that don't really add anything to the discussion.". Uh huh.
Also, there's no way someone can live in the closet and not lose one's mind. Okay!
Does this count as Sashenka's Law of Higher Education? I'm not sure.
Bonus appearance.
Edit: Flocked. Bollocks.
Son of Edit: Here's the original text, thanks totheantifooosh
Grandchild Edit: Thanks to iwanttobeasleep I managed to furl ataniell93's wankiness here.
Edits breeding like rabbits: And one last little wanktastic tidbit capped bytheantifooosh again.
Bonus Wankage: ataniell93 says it's all our fault that she flocked the OP where she was using such brilliant "reasoned" discussion, and something else about H/D & H/G that complete escapes me (thanks tobastet.
I Don't Like slash, So There wank a-happening, apparently focused around the Stargate Fandom. The hot-button part of the post is the "I'm not anti-gay. I'm pro-artistic integrity" excuse.
Apparently there are no snarky comments allowed, because "In a personal journal the intent is more to discuss a concept, not make arbitrary shallow simplifications of concepts that don't really add anything to the discussion.". Uh huh.
Also, there's no way someone can live in the closet and not lose one's mind. Okay!
Does this count as Sashenka's Law of Higher Education? I'm not sure.
Bonus appearance.
Edit: Flocked. Bollocks.
Son of Edit: Here's the original text, thanks to
theantifoooshThey're so going to yank my fannish union card for this...
Time to come out of the closet (again?).
Nope, still not gay. I'm coming out as a fan.
Well, not as a fan, per se. Everybody knows I'm a full bore geeky fan. I wrote fanfic in which Angel and Spike argue the physics of both Star Trek and Star Wars. I've got the cred. But I must confess to one thing.
I don't like slash.
No, I don't just not like it. I really, really hate it.
Part if it is just my own thing. The sight of two guys has never done squat for me. Neither has the thought or sight of two girls. Kind of bluntly put, if I'm not involved, I'm not interested. And the sight of two guys has a sort of implied exclusion for me. Not my proclivity, not my taste.
But what disturbs me about slash is the wholesale appropriation and basic, fundamental changes that slash writers make to characters that aren't theirs. It's one thing when Joss Whedon throws a bone to the slashers the way he did with Angel and Spike. But take, for example, the slash writers who are head over heels for the idea of Daniel Jackson and Jack O'Neil from Stargate: SG-1.
Jack O'Neil is an Air Force colonel when the series starts. He's currently a general. Jack couldn't survive and be the kind of person that he is if he had to hide a sexual orientation that was contrary to military regulations. And he'd have had to hide it deep to make it as far and as long as he did. As for the argument that Daniel just "sparked" these feelings in Jack, I'd say that if that were the case, I'd bet all the money in my pockets against all the money in your pockets that as soon as it happened, Jack would, at the very least, take a leave of absence from the military. If he didn't resign, first.
I think of my original writing (which I actually still occasionally do), and the idea that someone might appropriate any of my characters doesn't bug me (much). It's the idea that someone would appropriate a character that I created and just completely change them to get the pretty mental picture of him or her having sex with someone else who's pretty that makes me angry. I wouldn't want it done to my characters, so I don't do it to others'. And I don't read fics that do. I'm not anti-gay. I'm pro-artistic integrity.
ETA: At the suggestion of [info]cathexys I'm posting the text of a post I made on the subject after this original post has been made.
Additionally, I am turning off anonymous comments. If you want to say something--good or ill--you'll have to sign your name to it. Fair?
Here's what I wrote this morning:
So, why did I pick on slash?
1. It's the only genre I'm aware of where the point, by definition, is to take characters and change their sexual preference. If the definition has changed, I obviously didn't get the memo. Get a copy to me and I'll be all caught up and crawl back into my hole.
Yes, I hate other kinds of fundamental character changes, like Big Bird taking out a retirement home with a AK47 (poor Oscar needed a rest from all that charity work, I thought). But, as far as I am aware, no other character change has had an entire genre devoted to it.
2. It's what everybody around me seems to like and keeps treating me like a freak for not liking.
ETA 2: Methinks we had a troll, folks. Thanks so much to everybody for not taking the bait. If it rears its head again, it will be deleted out of hand.
Grandchild Edit: Thanks to iwanttobeasleep I managed to furl ataniell93's wankiness here.
Edits breeding like rabbits: And one last little wanktastic tidbit capped by
theantifooosh again.Bonus Wankage: ataniell93 says it's all our fault that she flocked the OP where she was using such brilliant "reasoned" discussion, and something else about H/D & H/G that complete escapes me (thanks to
bastet.
