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Lotte Claire (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} lottelita) wrote in ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/community.gif){kind=small} fandom_wank,@ 2006-07-27 14:07:00 |
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"Gay": Nothing derails a thread faster!
Over on RPG.net, someone makes an unassuming post about recent gamer-bashing on TV:
I was watching Dateline a few nights ago. It was a story about a girl manipulating a couple of guys into killing her mother. It was complicated...but the thing that grabbed me was that they had to mention, with dramatic pause, that the two guys who killed the woman got together to play Dungeons & Dragons.
It had absolutely nothing to do with the story at all...but the way they mentioned it made it seem like it was a dramatic factor in the story.
Just funny that after two decades, the press still likes to poke at D&D and try to get a rise from ignorant viewers. I thought we were past that.
In other news, I saw half an episode of queer eye for the straight guy. The Guy was a medieval re-enactor, and obviously a gamer. The "guys" were really ripping on his hobbies like they were immature (they kept mentioning his age, and the fact that he still did these things). The guy was fairly intelligent and expressed his interest and love for the hobbies very well, and the "guys" just seemed ignorant, silly, and dumb as they tried to make jokes about it. That isn't from a slanted point of view either. I just wonder how many people viewing were laughing along with the dumb jokes?
Gamer tells other gamers, "Hey, gamers are mocked in the media!" Preaching, choir, etc. Not much wank-potential here. Until we remember that any mention of homosexuality in a forum not intended for such discussion will lead to gay!wank of hilarious proportions -- proportions, in fact, that are, more often than not, inverse to the relevance of the initial mention of homosexuality.
And really, what better place for gay!wank than a messageboard predominately visited by men without girlfriends?*
The fun starts in the second reply: "I love it that it's okay for them to make fun of 'nerds,' but as soon as anyone says anything mildly humorous about them being gay, that person is automatically branded a 'bigot.' I say screw the double standard. If you dish it out, don't whine when you get hit with it, too. And that's all I have to say about that."
The rest of the wankers, however, have a lot more to say. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
SteamPulp, who has "nothing against gay people" and has "a large number" of gay friends, wonders why we can't all just get along: "I feel that yes it is about time that we stop looking down at people for what ever choices they make in thier life. being Gay, or a Nerd, or a Scientologist is a choice and a right, to rip people apart because they do things different, or have different views is wrong. We should also not have to shove these beliefs down other people throats as well. I was watching this reality show on Bravo about this woman who has a studio where she does weight training/exercise/whatever. Does her (gay) relationship really have to be paraded around? Are they going for Shock Value? Persoanlly this is why I do not watch much TV these days. I find nothing redeeming, and most of it beside a few good shows are a waste of an hour of my life."
Gay!wank on RPG.net, however, is totally redeeming and worth many hours of everyone's life (including this wanka's).
We learn grubman's daughters' thoughts on yaoi: "I tend to agree with Steampulp. I know my daughter (17) and all her friends are into the whole gay guy thing. There are tons of sites on the web, and they all have pictures of gay guys kissing and stuff up on their walls. Not to mention the whole border line Emo thing. Disclaimer: Not Homophobic or anything, I could care less, and have one very good friend that is gay."
Come on, guys, read the F_W wiki!
LeftWingPenguin is the first to drop the "o" word: "It's pretty much an example of the principle that just being a member of an oppressed minority doesn't make one automatically not a bigot ... Note that I'm not saying that gamers are in any way 'oppressed' in the ways homosexual or black people have been (and are), but we're talking about casual, rather than systematic, bigotry here. In our society, there are certain groups of people who are implicitly regarded as 'fair game' for mockery, condescention and ridicule based on their"obsession with brightly-colored polyhedral dice and tendency to proclaim themselves Galstaff Sorcerer of Light "presumed difference from the hypothetical norm."
LucitasBastardChilde angles for a Nobel Peace Prize by calling for victimized minorities of the world to UNITE!: "Frankly, big buncha 'freaks' we are, queers AND gamers, we should get together with all the other oppressed groups and figure out a way to fight against a system, society, and a machine, that would love to grind us all into dust." YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR HIT-POINTS!
And then we get a long and delightfully pompous digression about whether or not homosexuality is "a choice," and whether the word "discrimination" is applicable to "anti-roleplaying rhetoric." My favorite part is where one of the chief wankers posts, "Dear thread, Please stop being about gay people," and then wanks on, unabated.
A final word of wisdom from the Very Fucking Intelligent riprock: "The number of humans who practice or have practiced same-sex genital contact is probably much, much higher than the number of"gamers who have ever had genital contact with another person "humans who have ever played RPGames."
*I can say this, because I totally have friends who are gamers. Also, I am on my period right now, have several personality disorders, and am just a bitch in general.
ETA: Awwww, it's so CUTE when wankers are confused! Maybe we should add a "So You've Been Wanked" section to the userinfo to clarify things ...
Over on RPG.net, someone makes an unassuming post about recent gamer-bashing on TV:
I was watching Dateline a few nights ago. It was a story about a girl manipulating a couple of guys into killing her mother. It was complicated...but the thing that grabbed me was that they had to mention, with dramatic pause, that the two guys who killed the woman got together to play Dungeons & Dragons.
It had absolutely nothing to do with the story at all...but the way they mentioned it made it seem like it was a dramatic factor in the story.
Just funny that after two decades, the press still likes to poke at D&D and try to get a rise from ignorant viewers. I thought we were past that.
In other news, I saw half an episode of queer eye for the straight guy. The Guy was a medieval re-enactor, and obviously a gamer. The "guys" were really ripping on his hobbies like they were immature (they kept mentioning his age, and the fact that he still did these things). The guy was fairly intelligent and expressed his interest and love for the hobbies very well, and the "guys" just seemed ignorant, silly, and dumb as they tried to make jokes about it. That isn't from a slanted point of view either. I just wonder how many people viewing were laughing along with the dumb jokes?
Gamer tells other gamers, "Hey, gamers are mocked in the media!" Preaching, choir, etc. Not much wank-potential here. Until we remember that any mention of homosexuality in a forum not intended for such discussion will lead to gay!wank of hilarious proportions -- proportions, in fact, that are, more often than not, inverse to the relevance of the initial mention of homosexuality.
And really, what better place for gay!wank than a messageboard predominately visited by men without girlfriends?*
The fun starts in the second reply: "I love it that it's okay for them to make fun of 'nerds,' but as soon as anyone says anything mildly humorous about them being gay, that person is automatically branded a 'bigot.' I say screw the double standard. If you dish it out, don't whine when you get hit with it, too. And that's all I have to say about that."
The rest of the wankers, however, have a lot more to say. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
SteamPulp, who has "nothing against gay people" and has "a large number" of gay friends, wonders why we can't all just get along: "I feel that yes it is about time that we stop looking down at people for what ever choices they make in thier life. being Gay, or a Nerd, or a Scientologist is a choice and a right, to rip people apart because they do things different, or have different views is wrong. We should also not have to shove these beliefs down other people throats as well. I was watching this reality show on Bravo about this woman who has a studio where she does weight training/exercise/whatever. Does her (gay) relationship really have to be paraded around? Are they going for Shock Value? Persoanlly this is why I do not watch much TV these days. I find nothing redeeming, and most of it beside a few good shows are a waste of an hour of my life."
Gay!wank on RPG.net, however, is totally redeeming and worth many hours of everyone's life (including this wanka's).
We learn grubman's daughters' thoughts on yaoi: "I tend to agree with Steampulp. I know my daughter (17) and all her friends are into the whole gay guy thing. There are tons of sites on the web, and they all have pictures of gay guys kissing and stuff up on their walls. Not to mention the whole border line Emo thing. Disclaimer: Not Homophobic or anything, I could care less, and have one very good friend that is gay."
Come on, guys, read the F_W wiki!
LeftWingPenguin is the first to drop the "o" word: "It's pretty much an example of the principle that just being a member of an oppressed minority doesn't make one automatically not a bigot ... Note that I'm not saying that gamers are in any way 'oppressed' in the ways homosexual or black people have been (and are), but we're talking about casual, rather than systematic, bigotry here. In our society, there are certain groups of people who are implicitly regarded as 'fair game' for mockery, condescention and ridicule based on their"
LucitasBastardChilde angles for a Nobel Peace Prize by calling for victimized minorities of the world to UNITE!: "Frankly, big buncha 'freaks' we are, queers AND gamers, we should get together with all the other oppressed groups and figure out a way to fight against a system, society, and a machine, that would love to grind us all into dust." YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR HIT-POINTS!
And then we get a long and delightfully pompous digression about whether or not homosexuality is "a choice," and whether the word "discrimination" is applicable to "anti-roleplaying rhetoric." My favorite part is where one of the chief wankers posts, "Dear thread, Please stop being about gay people," and then wanks on, unabated.
A final word of wisdom from the Very Fucking Intelligent riprock: "The number of humans who practice or have practiced same-sex genital contact is probably much, much higher than the number of"
*I can say this, because I totally have friends who are gamers. Also, I am on my period right now, have several personality disorders, and am just a bitch in general.
ETA: Awwww, it's so CUTE when wankers are confused! Maybe we should add a "So You've Been Wanked" section to the userinfo to clarify things ...
