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musouka (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} musouka) wrote in ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/community.gif){kind=small} fandom_wank,@ 2006-07-28 15:47:00 |
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No one expects the Yuri Inquisition!
This wank is a little old, but since it's still ongoing, I thought it'd be okay to post.
It starts out simply, though predictably, enough. Over on the AnimeNation foums, eva000 asks, "which do you like more yaoi or yuri"
Animematt55 instantly responds:
another one of these???
Yuri is definately superior.
There is some basic "yeah, yuri rules, yaoi drools", "nah, I like male/male stuff" mixed in with some sense until we get to this exchange:
Venus:
I feel like I'm being bashed over the head with "yuri is better." And I have to say its rather annoying, not to mention getting old.
Animematt55:
Well, they do say the truth hurts.
BTW, can you describe why yuri "doesnt do anything for you" Are you only thinking of the hentai side? have you even watched maria-sama ga miteru? strawberry panic? etc etc.
Venus:
I'm not talking about hentai. I'm just not interested in seeing girls getting it on with other girls. That's what I mean when I say yuri doesn't do anything for me. As I said I don't have a problem with it and if there's a yuri anime I think looks interesting then I'll check it out.
Animematt55 is opressed:
But i feel that yuri fans are more harassed by the yaoi fans, just cause there are just too damn many of them, and they tend to be very rabid about it. *shudders at the thought of the Yaoi Paddles*. Seeing how yaoi, especially the hentai side of it, has become too big in america, while yuri has taken a backrow seat. I can't even go to the comic store without a bunch of smut staring at me from the shelves anymore...
DazzleKitty:
I don't think yaoi fans harass yuri fans. I think you open the door for your own harassment when you make comments that tick yaoi fans off, which you do a lot. I have seen more fanboys bash yaoi than fangirls bash yuri. Many of the fangirls I have ran into actually like some shoujo-ai - just not the yuri hentai.
typhonblue:
BTW, one difference I see between forums geared towards yaoi vs general anime forums is that in the yaoi forums yuri is NEVER ONCE MENTIONED, much less bashed. In fact the only time I've witness a "yaoi vs. yuri" discussion it's usually started by yuri fans to bash yaoi fans.
Too much to c&p, but worth reading
Wherein we learn there is no good reason for not loving yuri:
typhonblue:
I don't like yuri.
I'm sorry, I just don't.
Animematt55
SO you have no reason for not liking the yuri side......that is just as bad as all those idiot guy in your ju jitsu class.
You keep saying all this mainstream talk when it has nothign to do with it. You sound liek soem close-minded little girl who just refuses to try something new. It is the 'fans' like you i hate the most cause you absolutly refuse everythign except yaoi. You give double standard reasons too.
You say all this abotu yaoi not being in the mainstream. What about Queer as Folk? Queer eye for the straight guy? Those are very mainstream shows. Your arguments are flawed.
You have never even given a reason for refusing to watch yuri.
I challenge you to watch/read Maria-sama ge miteru. Read Maka-maka and other exceptional yuri manga/anime.
typhonblue:
No, it's not.
I don't like yuri. I'm not interested in lesbianism. I don't think it's disgusting, nor do I believe that people who are interested are perverted or otherwise freakish human beings. I don't also don't believe that women are disgusting and that any woman who doesn't like what I like is obviously gay(and/or depraved.)
I. Just. Don't. Like. It.
You can like it. I don't have to.
It reminds me of the time I was sexually assaulted by a woman... It makes me feel uncomfortable, no matter how "cute and lovable" you think it is. (And, yes, if a man was bothered by yaoi because it reminded him of the same thing I would understand his adversion.)
Animematt55
Now typhon. Lets say you were sexually assulted by a guy? Would you avoid yaoi? i doubt it? No offense to you, but that is a very weak reason to me.
Oh man, and that's just the tip of the iceburg. It goes on for five more pages.
EDIT:
Sexual assault = Flirting?
Animematt55
Well your usuing it to avoid the whole genre. I mean i havent been fully sexually assulted, but a lot of guys have triede to really flirt with me. But i put a stop to it. But i dont fully avoid the shounen-ai genre at all.
This wank is a little old, but since it's still ongoing, I thought it'd be okay to post.
It starts out simply, though predictably, enough. Over on the AnimeNation foums, eva000 asks, "which do you like more yaoi or yuri"
Animematt55 instantly responds:
another one of these???
Yuri is definately superior.
There is some basic "yeah, yuri rules, yaoi drools", "nah, I like male/male stuff" mixed in with some sense until we get to this exchange:
Venus:
I feel like I'm being bashed over the head with "yuri is better." And I have to say its rather annoying, not to mention getting old.
Animematt55:
Well, they do say the truth hurts.
BTW, can you describe why yuri "doesnt do anything for you" Are you only thinking of the hentai side? have you even watched maria-sama ga miteru? strawberry panic? etc etc.
Venus:
I'm not talking about hentai. I'm just not interested in seeing girls getting it on with other girls. That's what I mean when I say yuri doesn't do anything for me. As I said I don't have a problem with it and if there's a yuri anime I think looks interesting then I'll check it out.
Animematt55 is opressed:
But i feel that yuri fans are more harassed by the yaoi fans, just cause there are just too damn many of them, and they tend to be very rabid about it. *shudders at the thought of the Yaoi Paddles*. Seeing how yaoi, especially the hentai side of it, has become too big in america, while yuri has taken a backrow seat. I can't even go to the comic store without a bunch of smut staring at me from the shelves anymore...
DazzleKitty:
I don't think yaoi fans harass yuri fans. I think you open the door for your own harassment when you make comments that tick yaoi fans off, which you do a lot. I have seen more fanboys bash yaoi than fangirls bash yuri. Many of the fangirls I have ran into actually like some shoujo-ai - just not the yuri hentai.
typhonblue:
BTW, one difference I see between forums geared towards yaoi vs general anime forums is that in the yaoi forums yuri is NEVER ONCE MENTIONED, much less bashed. In fact the only time I've witness a "yaoi vs. yuri" discussion it's usually started by yuri fans to bash yaoi fans.
Too much to c&p, but worth reading
Wherein we learn there is no good reason for not loving yuri:
typhonblue:
I don't like yuri.
I'm sorry, I just don't.
Animematt55
SO you have no reason for not liking the yuri side......that is just as bad as all those idiot guy in your ju jitsu class.
You keep saying all this mainstream talk when it has nothign to do with it. You sound liek soem close-minded little girl who just refuses to try something new. It is the 'fans' like you i hate the most cause you absolutly refuse everythign except yaoi. You give double standard reasons too.
You say all this abotu yaoi not being in the mainstream. What about Queer as Folk? Queer eye for the straight guy? Those are very mainstream shows. Your arguments are flawed.
You have never even given a reason for refusing to watch yuri.
I challenge you to watch/read Maria-sama ge miteru. Read Maka-maka and other exceptional yuri manga/anime.
typhonblue:
No, it's not.
I don't like yuri. I'm not interested in lesbianism. I don't think it's disgusting, nor do I believe that people who are interested are perverted or otherwise freakish human beings. I don't also don't believe that women are disgusting and that any woman who doesn't like what I like is obviously gay(and/or depraved.)
I. Just. Don't. Like. It.
You can like it. I don't have to.
It reminds me of the time I was sexually assaulted by a woman... It makes me feel uncomfortable, no matter how "cute and lovable" you think it is. (And, yes, if a man was bothered by yaoi because it reminded him of the same thing I would understand his adversion.)
Animematt55
Now typhon. Lets say you were sexually assulted by a guy? Would you avoid yaoi? i doubt it? No offense to you, but that is a very weak reason to me.
Oh man, and that's just the tip of the iceburg. It goes on for five more pages.
EDIT:
Sexual assault = Flirting?
Animematt55
Well your usuing it to avoid the whole genre. I mean i havent been fully sexually assulted, but a lot of guys have triede to really flirt with me. But i put a stop to it. But i dont fully avoid the shounen-ai genre at all.
