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Milkshake Butterfly ([info]m_butterfly) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-08-21 10:27:00


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Entry tags:fandom: stargate

SGA Fandom on SGA Fanfic: It's *all* just theft anyway, right?
Over in SGA fandom, where the men are women and the women are... also women, there's trouble brewing in the paradise that is [info]sga_flashfic, home of possibly even more crackfic than the rest of the fandom has. Speranza ([info]cesperanza) has come up with a new idea for a challenge: Mission Reports! It's got three different possible options, and options A and B are about par for the course, but option C is a little different:

"take another author's story and write a report of type a or b for it."
But what makes it truly special is this:
"Now to clarify about option c)--if you choose to write a mission report of somebody else's story, we'll ask you to credit them, but we won't require you to ask their permission (though obviously, you're free to do so and it's always a good idea). HOWEVER, if you want to opt OUT of option c)--i.e. tell people that they can't write a mission report of your story or stories, even with credit--please leave a comment in this post ASAP."
For those of you lost, she's basically saying that anyone can write up a story based on and remixing another author's story without needing their permission, and if you don't want to have someone do that to your story, you need to speak up now or it's assumed you're down with it.

As you might imagine, this does not go over well.

At all.

Four comments down, things get jiggy, when [info]kyrdwyn asks the fairly sensible question:
"Also, sorry, another thought I had - are you limiting the writers we can choose from to sga_flashfic members, or is anyone who has ever written SGA fic fair game? Because if they're not on the list, they won't know to opt out, and I know a lot of writers who might like to opt out for whatever reason."
And just about everyone shows up to take exception!

You've got hth ([info]hth_the_first):
"Right, because God forbid we write stories that make use of ideas someone else came up with. I personally write to Martin Gero before each and every story I post on the internet to clear it with him; I keep his postcards in a little file folder in my fireproof safe so that I can pull them out and show them to anyone who asks."
Sarah T ([info]harriet_spy):
"Especially if it's a Sheppard/Teyla spin! That's *extra* gross, you know! I feel violated just thinking about it."
Livia Penn ([info]liviapenn) hastily defending Sarah T with links:
"Er, I assure you, she was definitely just being sarcastic."
An anonmouse replying to Sarah T:
"i hope someone remixes one of your fics so rodney kills teyla."
And that's just within the first real subthread.

In the other comments, people scold, and scold, and scold, and scold--there's even preschool teacher scolding--and grant very odd forms of permission. That little condition is apparently a bigger source of concern than you'd think, because it also shows up in rosewildeirish's post on the subject, if not the countless other posts about it. But not everyone disagrees--some people think they haven't gone far enough.

And the best thing is: this hasn't even been up a full twelve hours yet. Pass along a link to the unfolding drama and get a cookie!


ETA: And at just barely shy of the twelve hour mark, Speranza freezes the original post and puts up a new post revising the rules and proceedures for this challenge. However, it's worth noting that they "remain philosophically committed to the idea that people have the right to make art based on other art provided that due credit is given the original artist".

I'd offer to take bets on whether more wank is in the offing, but I don't believe anyone around here is that naive.


Links at this point provided by just about everybody. Thanks, y'all.



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[info]smo
2006-08-21 04:46 pm UTC (link)
Wouldn't it just have been simpler to require everyone to get permission from the original authors?

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(Anonymous)
2006-08-21 04:57 pm UTC (link)
You forgot the links in Livia Penn's response that link to Sarah T's Teyla/Sheppard fic, which are kind of the whole point of the response. It's obviously sarcastic since they're one of her ships.


--kissingchaos9 on lj

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coreopsis
2006-08-21 05:00 pm UTC (link)
My fandom is so embarrassing some times.

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coreopsis
2006-08-21 05:03 pm UTC (link)
Also, you missed this comment</a. where the person whose idea it actually was (not cesperanza's) clarified that she never meant for people to do anything without permission.

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(no subject) - [info]m_butterfly, 2006-08-21 05:10 pm UTC
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[info]castalianspring
2006-08-21 05:08 pm UTC (link)
This was all over my flist this morning. Should've known it would get posted here.

I'd expect this sort of thing from fandom newbies, but damn, most of the people involved are veteran fen. Is there something in the water this week?

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(no subject) - [info]nostalgia, 2006-08-21 07:54 pm UTC
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notmonkey
2006-08-21 05:16 pm UTC (link)
*boggles*

That challenge is just...it's a fucking landmine of wank! And it's not even buried!

I've been warned off SGA because of the wank and yeah...backing the fuck away.

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[info]pyratejenni
2006-08-21 05:29 pm UTC (link)
Lee Goldberg would have a field day with this.

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[info]sidewinder
2006-08-21 05:37 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for reminding me once again why I am SO glad I have no interest in that show and/or its fandom.

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[info]mnemosyne
2006-08-21 05:37 pm UTC (link)
I like that leather pants are mentioned in one of those links in the context of originality and theft. I don't think there's any real connection. But I like it.

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[info]penemuel
2006-08-21 05:50 pm UTC (link)
Why oh why is this happening? In the span of two weeks, my three (currently) biggest fandoms have turned into Wanktastic Spectacles! I'm honestly floored. SGA fandom seemed pretty nice and friendly to me (other than the various ship wars, which I just ignore completely...), but... but... argh!

First HP, then Doctor Who, now this?!

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(Anonymous)
2006-08-21 05:53 pm UTC (link)
Ces just froze comments and posted that people need to get permission first.

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[info]b_jellybean
2006-08-21 05:55 pm UTC (link)
AS I WAS READING IT all the comments suddenly disappeared and this showed up. While I generally like most of the sga_flashfic people, I have to say things would have gone a hell of a lot more smoothly if all of that information had been provided last night. I have no idea WHY the permission thing was not included.

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(Anonymous)
2006-08-21 05:55 pm UTC (link)
The mod is still talking about opting in and out in this post:

http://community.livejournal.com/sga_flashfic/420130.html

And I still don't understand what s/h/it is talking about...

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(no subject) - [info]b_jellybean, 2006-08-21 06:01 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-08-21 05:58 pm UTC (link)
And fairestcat declares the flashfic mods (http://fairestcat.livejournal.com/351021.html) to be daring for bringing the inevitable to light, but that they should have held their position.

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[info]b_jellybean
2006-08-21 06:06 pm UTC (link)
Randomly, while replying to a comment, GMail gave me the headline Engineers Swap Out Bolts on Atlantis. Maybe THAT'S what the problem is! ;)

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[info]chikane
2006-08-21 06:17 pm UTC (link)
Hmm. Why you don't ask the original authors. Hmm.
Could be that, uh, the amount of emails plus the stuff they already get would be kinda...overwhelming?
Is that just me?

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[info]pyratejenni
2006-08-21 06:32 pm UTC (link)
I've still got it open.

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(no subject) - [info]m_butterfly, 2006-08-21 06:50 pm UTC

[info]snacky
2006-08-21 06:47 pm UTC (link)
All I ask is that nobody make any of my stories into McSheps, thanks.

Oh man, not the McSheps! I had a bad case of the McSheps a few months ago, and I still break out in hives when people start mentioning "crackfic". It's a tough, tough disease to get over.

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(Anonymous)
2006-08-21 06:53 pm UTC (link)
This is one of those wanks where I read it, went "sweet", and scrolled on by. Either I'm far too laid-back or people are far too uptight.

I mean, it's common sense to ask the author. And polite. And you should always be polite. Cause otherwise you're going to hear your mother screaming in your head about manners.

......Or maybe that's just me.

- fan_this

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(no subject) - [info]m_butterfly, 2006-08-21 07:01 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-08-21 06:56 pm UTC (link)
SG has seen worse wanks, i wonder why we don't show up here that often, the whole fandom lives on a perpetual state of endemic wank. Not to the levels of HP mind you (although we do have our number of nasty sockpuppets), but we're still learning, give us time ;D.

No one should be surprised by this, that challenge had wank writen all over it.

luisa_f@lj

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(Anonymous)
2006-08-21 07:17 pm UTC (link)
but.....

isn't ALL fanfic based on other peoples stories without asking the authors permission? so these reports are just kinda fanfic SQUARED, fan-fic-fic......

are fic authors immune to the rules that affect other authors, in that you as a fan fic writer can do what the hell you like with what they write?

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[info]hakugei
2006-08-21 07:25 pm UTC (link)
Okay. The opt-in/opt-out shit is stupid. But besides that, can someone explain why it is so important to have the author's permission to write a remix or do something like the sga_flashfic comm is doing? It's not like the author that is writing the remix or joining the sga_flashfic comm challenge isn't going to credit the author of the work their basing their story on. Isn't it hypocritical for fanfic authors to think they DESERVE the right to have others ask for their permission before referencing or using their work? After all, their fanwork is technically done without getting permission of the owners of the Stargate franchise.

I guess it's only considered plagiarism if the remix sucks major eggs. *coughcassieclaircough*

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[info]geekmagirl
2006-08-21 09:19 pm UTC (link)
I come from Lotrips, so for me, SGA will always seem very tame and a place of love and light. However, the dozens of rabid for/against posts that came from this challenge are a thing of beauty.

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(Anonymous)
2006-08-21 10:00 pm UTC (link)
Ah....my fandom brings the very best crack! That said, still saner than most *coughBNFcough*

~lj mir8lle

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... - [info]ladysorka, 2006-08-22 02:50 am UTC
... - (Anonymous), 2006-08-22 04:02 am UTC
... - [info]jat_sapphire, 2006-08-22 05:25 am UTC
... - [info]ladysorka, 2006-08-22 02:53 am UTC
... - (Anonymous), 2006-08-22 03:10 am UTC
... - [info]penemuel, 2006-08-22 07:16 pm UTC
... - (Anonymous), 2006-08-22 02:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-08-22 02:42 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-08-22 02:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bookshop, 2006-08-22 04:36 am UTC
... - (Anonymous), 2006-08-22 06:57 am UTC
... - (Anonymous), 2006-08-22 05:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]afrai, 2006-08-22 06:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sgtgeorgecarter, 2006-08-23 04:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]melyanna, 2006-08-22 03:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladysorka, 2006-08-22 04:02 am UTC
... - (Anonymous), 2006-08-22 04:06 am UTC
... - (Anonymous), 2006-08-22 04:51 am UTC
... - (Anonymous), 2006-08-22 03:20 pm UTC
... - (Anonymous), 2006-08-26 03:08 am UTC
... - [info]melyanna, 2006-08-22 04:10 am UTC
... - [info]ladysorka, 2006-08-22 04:15 am UTC
... - [info]melyanna, 2006-08-22 04:17 am UTC
... - [info]melyanna, 2006-08-22 04:16 am UTC
... - [info]squib, 2006-08-22 05:42 am UTC
... - [info]melyanna, 2006-08-22 05:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iamtheenemy, 2006-08-22 12:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladysorka, 2006-08-22 06:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]katarin, 2006-08-23 10:41 am UTC
... - [info]m_butterfly, 2006-08-23 11:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]white_serpent, 2006-10-03 01:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iamtheenemy, 2006-08-21 10:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-08-21 11:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladysorka, 2006-08-21 11:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-08-21 11:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-08-22 12:36 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-08-21 10:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-08-21 10:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-08-21 11:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]squib, 2006-08-22 05:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]squeakytoy, 2006-08-22 08:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]squeakytoy, 2006-08-22 01:41 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-08-22 08:31 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-08-22 04:10 am UTC



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