ymfaery
2003-07-14 05:50 am UTC (link)

Hey, I remember it more than "Welcome back, Kotter."

And I remember someone mentioning this on their lj several months ago. Mainly because she was aghast that Starbuck is now a girl. Upon reading that, I thought, "... but then the call sign/nickname won't make sense. The heck?"

However, said person was torn between boycotting and watching it for the guy who played Hornblower in the A&E series, who I think is playing Apollo. (Ione something?) And the tights.

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	phosfate 2003-07-14 06:03 am UTC (link)
	Well, to be fair, Welcome Back Kotter sucked, too. I used to hang with a group who role-played BSG in real life. It made me want to kick puppies. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ymfaery 2003-07-14 06:09 am UTC (link)
	Since I barely remember the faces of the people in "Welcome back, Kotter," much less anything else, I'll take your word for it. ^_- ... Did you have any preference as to what breed of puppy? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	phosfate 2003-07-14 06:13 am UTC (link)
	I have never actually kicked a puppy, so no. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ymfaery 2003-07-14 06:15 am UTC (link)
	Okay. The only living things I kick are bugs. There was this huge cockroach the other night... >. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	phosfate 2003-07-14 06:19 am UTC (link)
	::shudder:: We're roach-free, thank God, but we have...millipedes. SCREAM! Watching a promo disc w/Fruits Basket, and am getting your icon in stereo. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ymfaery 2003-07-14 06:23 am UTC (link)
	Promo disk? Is this the one that was around $3 and has only the dub on it? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	phosfate 2003-07-14 06:29 am UTC (link)
	$1.99 and the 'hilarious' antics of the US voice actors. Yup. In spite all of that, I find myself rather liking it. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

ymfaery
2003-07-14 06:36 am UTC (link)

*snerk*

I got sucked into it thanks to my friend first getting the (crappy) fansubs, then buying the DVDs. (You know one really likes the show when they're willing to shell out $40/disk.) I currently have the 2nd disk (borrowed) for screen cap purposes and v. 1-7 of the manga. But I really want to watch the fourth disk--those fansubs were *really* crappy.

I've definitely turned elitist--I tried watching the dub when I had the first disk and couldn't last five minutes.

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	esorlehcar 2003-07-14 07:02 am UTC (link)
	Millipedes are the good ones! It's centipedes you have to run screaming from. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ymfaery 2003-07-14 07:08 am UTC (link)
	I was thinking that, especially since I have a vivid memory from elementary school when one erupted from the drain in the sink. >. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	jerry_ds_girl 2003-07-14 07:37 am UTC (link)
	Centipedes ::shudder:: I live on the top floor of a 120-yr old house. . .it's a toss-up which is worse, those multi-legged bastards or the occasional giant spider. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	rann 2003-07-14 09:44 am UTC (link)
	Allow me to flex my inner girly-girl for a moment... ahem SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH! >. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	jerry_ds_girl 2003-07-14 06:06 am UTC (link)
	Ioan Gruffud played Hornblower. And Olmos is always gonna be Lt. Castillo to me. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Lt. Castillo = HOT ymfaery 2003-07-14 06:12 am UTC (link)
	Do you remember what season he joined the cast? I'm thinking second or third, and I don't recall what happened to the previous lieutenant/captain/whatever--did he bite the bullet? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Lt. Castillo = HOT jerry_ds_girl 2003-07-14 06:23 am UTC (link)
	Ha! I know this one--he actually came in towards the end of the first season--the original lt. was played by Gregory Sierra, and he (character) got shot because he (actor) decided he wanted off the show. (BIG MV fan here--wrote fanfic, the whole bit) And I also have a photo album full of pictures of DJ when he competed in our city's offshore powerboat races. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Lt. Castillo = HOT ymfaery 2003-07-14 06:28 am UTC (link)
	I thought it was something like that. As I recall, his "leaving" was rather... abrupt. :P And I had a huge crush on Tubbs (sp?). I'm not too sure about the actor's name--was it Phillip Michael Thomas?--but he was pretty. ;D (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Lt. Castillo = HOT jerry_ds_girl 2003-07-14 06:35 am UTC (link)
	Was it Philip Michael Thomas? Yup. (Reply to this)(Parent)

elke_tanzer
2003-07-14 12:04 pm UTC (link)

That comment would be referring to Jamie Bamber, who played Archie Kennedy in Hornblower, and who is playing Apollo in the new BSG series.

Mostly I'm just ticked because there were rumors of Starbuck being played by Michael Shanks at one point, and my brain (and other things) exploded at the possibility of those two actors' characters being a slashable pair.

*bemused sigh*

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	ymfaery 2003-07-14 12:33 pm UTC (link)
	Then I got the actors mixed up. sigh (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rann 2003-07-14 07:02 am UTC (link)
	First, yeah, probably still a pretty big fanbase. Second... that actor is SERIOUSLY stupid. o.O (Reply to this)(Thread)

	ymfaery 2003-07-14 07:13 am UTC (link)
	In what way are you saying the actor (I'm assuming you're referring to Olmos) is being stupid? Warning the old-time fans that there's major derivations? Pissing off the execs? (Man, I'm all over this thread. Must be good timing. Or something.) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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rann
2003-07-14 07:19 am UTC (link)

Both, the first more in the manner than in the action, the second is stupid period.
If he wanted to warn people it's going to be different, that's cool. But he wasn't saying "Be warned, original version fans, this is different!", he was saying, "Original version fans, STAY AWAY! DO NOT WATCH THIS! YOU'LL HATE IT!"
Basically, if you're an actor and you go out and tell a large portion of your potential audience "Don't watch this movie/show, you'll hate it!", you're preeetty dumb.
And it is stupid to blatantly piss off the execs for no real purpose, because when all is said and done, the execs determine whether you'll be working or not... they sign your paychecks and decide whether your salary is justified.
Olmos basically just pulled on a red shirt.

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	iczer6 2003-07-14 07:25 am UTC (link)
	Well I'm just happy they're remaking something that doesn't make me feel like I should be in a rest home. [Stocks up on Oil of Olay] And I'll agree with Rann. It's one thing to warn fans that this isn't gonna be exactly like the original, but it's another entirely to tell folks they'll hate something they haven't even watched. Icz (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: rann 2003-07-14 07:28 am UTC (link)
	Is that Oil of Olay for wanking? ^.^ splurt (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	iczer6 2003-07-14 07:40 am UTC (link)
	Nope it's just being used to combat my deep-set fear of ageing. Icz (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sorchar 2003-07-14 09:11 am UTC (link)
	I can sell you some good Mary Kay shit. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ymfaery 2003-07-15 12:13 am UTC (link)
	Is that supposed to be better than Avon? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	jerry_ds_girl 2003-07-14 04:07 pm UTC (link)
	Try some Chanel Age Delay Rejuvenation Lotion. That shit took away the wrinkles under my eyes in a week. (Reply to this)(Parent)

ymfaery
2003-07-14 11:22 am UTC (link)

Just wanted that clarified.

I'm not really trying to defend him, but I recall seeing a mention that Olmos had been receiving hate mail that basically trashed him and the other actors for the changes. (And that really doesn't make sense to me, since the actors don't have any control on how their characters are written to begin with. The hate mail should be going to the execs.)

/me takes a quick look at bookmarks

Ah, yes. Luthien's journal, and it's this entry: http://www.livejournal.com/users/luthien67/197121.html
(I don't remember how to do that html thing without Semagic, which isn't on this computer :P).

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	Re: rann 2003-07-14 11:26 am UTC (link)
	Hmmm... actually, I think you should have entered that in the main entry, it looks like it could turn kinda wanky... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ymfaery 2003-07-14 11:29 am UTC (link)
	Enter it in the main entry how? Or are you talking about making a new comment with that information? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: rann 2003-07-14 11:31 am UTC (link)
	You should be able to edit the original entry... hm... I'm not sure exactly how to do it on communities, but I'm sure one of the mods'll tell ya. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ymfaery 2003-07-14 11:36 am UTC (link)
	Uh, well, it would help if I was the one who posted the original entry. >.> (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: rann 2003-07-14 11:38 am UTC (link)
	I can not keep track of such mundane things as "facts"! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	jerry_ds_girl 2003-07-14 04:03 pm UTC (link)
	::raises hand:: I was the one who made the original post. I got the story off the Daily Rotten News, and never knew about the LJ stuff. So, thanks, rann for adding that link. What the heck is the html for turning someone's name into the little jf title-thingy? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	jerry_ds_girl 2003-07-14 04:05 pm UTC (link)
	And in a moment of supreme wanky confusion, I just credited rann for the link when I should have said ymfaery. Oops. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	girl_friday 2003-07-14 07:32 pm UTC (link)
	Dude! You should start posting on the DLR board! Their motto is, "Facts? What are these facts you speak of?" (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: rann 2003-07-15 12:40 am UTC (link)
	"God has NO PLACE within these walls! Just as facts have no place in organized religion!" (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	onetrickpony 2003-07-15 03:27 pm UTC (link)
	So its true! There really is a Simpsons quote for every occasion! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rann 2003-07-16 06:08 am UTC (link)
	P.S. Watching Signs right now. I love this movie... which is odd, since the theme is pretty deeply spiritual, and I'm not that spiritual... but I still love the movie, AND the theme... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	girl_friday 2003-07-16 08:05 am UTC (link)
	I love Signs as well. It's scary, but not too scary (me + horror movies = BAD), and I really liked the whole premise. Everything is for a reason. If I believed that, maybe I'd be a better person. ^_^ (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Completely OT... aruru 2003-07-14 07:40 am UTC (link)
	...but I'm so happy people other than my close friends are enjoying my icons enough to use them. sniff (Reply to this)(Thread)

	Re: Completely OT... jerry_ds_girl 2003-07-14 04:04 pm UTC (link)
	Gotta love the pimpage icons! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Upping and, indeed, dating phosfate 2003-07-15 06:12 pm UTC (link)
	BSG at SDCC: http://www.tvbarn.com/ticker/archives/013239.html (Reply to this)

	80's flashback! guildenstern 2003-07-16 12:30 am UTC (link)
	Hey. Am I the only one who remembers 'Buck Rodgers'? XD I just can't wait for the remake of that. I demand that Clay Aiken play Buck- and we can get a different FicBitch each week to write a critique on it! XD Any ideas for Twiki? XD (Reply to this)