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vafan ([info]vafan) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-09-12 09:37:00
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FMA wank, how I have missed thee.
Over at Anime News Network, someone points out that one drawing has been edited in the Viz's FMA Volume 8 manga. This was done WITH FULL APPROVAL FROM THE CREATOR.

To quote the first reply, "Cue the outcriers."

And they're off! The wank is growing, with lots of "OMG boycot Viz because of their editing" and "Well, time to start downloading the illegal scanlations" and "they just did this to placate the soccer moms" and such.

Ah, FMA wank. How we have missed thee.
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[info]hypno_jango
2006-09-13 05:39 am UTC (link)
Am I the only one who thinks creators don't give nearly as much of a shit as the fans do?

And please, the editing is not getting worse. It was worse back then. My friend had the extremely edited Dragon Ball manga while I had the newer release. I was telling her all about the pat-pats, Goku trying to sleep on Bulma's balls, and all the other dirty stuff and my friend had no idea what I was talking about.

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[info]blackjackrocket
2006-09-13 06:07 am UTC (link)
You'd think with all the religious overtones in that series already that they wouldn't have a problem showing someone on a cross. Besides, it's not like Jesus was the only person ever crucified.

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-13 06:37 am UTC (link)
it's a couple frames, and ensures that no crazed person tries to stop VIZ from releasing FMA.

why. should. it. matter?

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[info]sunqist
2006-09-13 07:50 am UTC (link)
Like the people on ANN are even buying the manga. They totally all downloaded the scans a year ago, and they're just trying to protect the poor, uninformed masses.

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[info]pharae
2006-09-13 07:57 am UTC (link)
I was about to edit my [info]clairvoyantwank post with this link, but if it's been moved here...

Anime News Network starts a poll on the matter.

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(no subject) - [info]pharae, 2006-09-13 08:00 am UTC

[info]aerobot
2006-09-13 11:13 am UTC (link)
... So?

Seriously, I don't see the big deal. It's not like they're negating a whole scene or being hypocritical. They just edited out some minor symbolism OH NOEZ. If I had never seen the scanlations I'd never be the wiser.

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-13 03:56 pm UTC (link)
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=27840&postdays=0&postorder=asc&topic_view=&start=60

Yay, Goldwin's Law spotted in mayhem!

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-13 04:15 pm UTC (link)
Huh. I didn't even notice that was an edit, mostly because I thought the idea still got across. (I mean, why else would you string somebody up in that pose?)

I just figured they didn't have an exactly cross-shaped piece of rock laying around. XD

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[info]eclair
2006-09-13 04:45 pm UTC (link)
...I dunno, I think its a pretty nice edit. They took their time with it! It also doesn't really retract from the idea. Atleast, I don't think.

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-13 04:59 pm UTC (link)
Oh, FMA, my dear Fandom... I was beginning to think you'd lost your edge and were giving up against all these newer wanks! Glad to see you've still got the ability to kerfluffle over stupid-ass shit!

... I just love how the first response is "Cue the wanking in three, two, one..."

~ UrpleSquirrel from LJ.

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-13 07:59 pm UTC (link)
Heh, I'm more pissed about the translations in volume 9 - Jan Havoc, Lin and all the fun ways they spell Resembool, damn it.

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[info]ymfaery
2006-09-13 08:19 pm UTC (link)
...

So what's stopping them from buying the untouched, original Japanese manga? Support the creator with their cash, even though they can't read it! Whiners.

Now what volume are they on now? ^_^a

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[info]esclaramonde
2006-09-13 08:43 pm UTC (link)
Didn't they make that edit in the anime as well? My brother and I have been laughing at it for a while, anyway. See, our dad has a tendency to walk in while we're watching something, look for a minute, and see something vaguey cross-shaped, then make a remark about how it's symbolism. And he may be right sometimes, but I doubt that Platform One (from Doctor Who) is meant to be Christlike, or the werewolf from Tooth & Claw.

So now we tend to go on about symbolism every time someone stands with their arms stretched out.

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[info]sgtgeorgecarter
2006-09-13 08:52 pm UTC (link)
I've been boycotting Viz for years. You youngsters are slow.

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-13 08:59 pm UTC (link)
Personally, I see no reason why people would wank on that. I mean, it's an edit that the CREATOR of the manga approved (and to be honest, the edit is a minor one).

No wonder I have no love for fandoms. They suck.

- silverlightstar on LJ

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(no subject) - [info]wtf, 2006-09-14 05:22 am UTC

[info]kalika_maxwell
2006-09-13 09:15 pm UTC (link)
It's nothing to get upset over, but damn americans have issues with religion. It boggles my mind that they thought they had to do this.

Here, you're hardcore religious if you go to church more than twice a year...

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-13 10:02 pm UTC (link)
So, wait lemme get this straight.

The FMA movie, in which some beloved characters are depicted as Nazis, has been liscenced for distribution in the US and has gotten an un-cut limited release in theatres.

A panel of a villain being crucified in the manga gets an edit.

You know, nevermind that most people who were crucified in history were criminals--yannow, *bad guys.*

*wipes up*

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(no subject) - [info]arekuru, 2006-09-14 02:02 am UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-09-15 10:04 am UTC
Eva?
(Anonymous)
2006-09-13 10:03 pm UTC (link)
Didn't Vis publish the Evangelion manga?

Really tho, I could care less about them adding rock to a rock, especially with the approval of the artist/creator person or persons. It makes me laugh that we (and by we I mean they) tiptoe around because we Might! offend Christians. Christians have a sense of humor too, right?

Right? Oh, damn.

-viralmemory @ lj

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Re: Eva? - [info]dark_puck, 2006-09-14 12:06 am UTC
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[info]velvet_mace
2006-09-13 11:25 pm UTC (link)
I'm not pleased with the way Viz has been translating. In the latest official English version on the manga they suddenly up and decided to rename Yao Ling, Yao Lin and Jean Havoc, Jan Havoc -- this despite the fact that it has already been established how their names are spelled and Ling's name was DRAWN OUT in it's correct spelling in one of the panels.

Ya know, it's paying attention to these not so small small details that give the rest of the translation its credibility.

Proof of teh suck ass translating

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[info]jedi_miki
2006-09-14 01:20 am UTC (link)
I buy Viz manga only so I can have the books on hand... but that doesn't mean I like them much.

Especially with poor, poor InuYasha. What with Jyakotsu and Jyaken... and Naraku saying in one volume "That's why I sent Kagome to kill Kagome!". It's just too much when I think about Jean Havoc.

As for the edit- I didn't realize it was an edit, but then again, I don't get scanlations for FMA. *shrugs* I think the manga should be left the way it is (like Naruto's middle finger of FU-ness), but I doubt my opinion will change Viz's mind. :\

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[info]ladyofviolets
2006-09-14 01:25 am UTC (link)
* insert your most like bad joke about X here *

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[info]rosehiptea
2006-09-14 01:28 am UTC (link)
Hmmm... Trigun's got a guy getting crucified on a big cross, plus the cross-gun is in about one quarter of the panels. I don't know of people complaining to Dark Horse about Trigun, but I guess I really wouldn't know.

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[info]dottiness
2006-09-14 01:43 am UTC (link)
Favorite part so far is easily the comparison of manga edits to the Holocaust. Because clearly, minor, non-story-related edits to a manga kill millions of people.

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[info]the_crawford
2006-09-14 03:04 am UTC (link)
One Piece. The end.

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-14 10:04 am UTC (link)
There's really nothing here to get uptight about here. The creator approved of the edit, and I think he's the one who truly has the right to get bent out of shape over it. It's HIS baby. I'm sure he could have also put it in the contract that he wanted it left unedited. That's what makes contracts beautiful things sometimes.

It sounds like it's not going to ruin the plot or leave a big gaping hole in the story. Honestly, I can somewhat understand Viz's concerns. They shouldn't have to worry about it, but that's just how things are. Some edits can be stupid and unnecessary, but other times, I can see why it happens. I may not like it, yet I don't go insane over it because I, at least, try to understand the reasoning.

~ravenousbunny

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