Thursday, June 10th, 2010

Youthwank: LJ is protecting children!

[info]elfwreck
Livejournal decided to tag fanficrants as may contain explicit content, which means that nobody logged in as under 18 can see the posts. People logged out can see them, and click the "Yes I'm 18" button—but ffrants doesn't allow anon or non-member commenting. Officially, it doesn't allow sockpuppets, either.

The wank is playing out in a couple of posts at ffrantsrants

jinxy_sama is surprised anyone's upset:
I thought it already was marked Explicit Adult Content. I have to say I find it surprising that so many of you who so vehemently disapprove of loli/shouta ... would not dissuade actual underage individuals from creating socks or moving to DreamWidth in order to view content inappropriate for children, ie. rape, bdsm, a myriad of different kinks, explicit smut, etc, etc. With the comm in such disarray over the inability of minors to partake, maybe it's a good thing LJ took the reigns."
Several people point out that "not wanting kids to read x-rated fanfic" is not the same as "not wanting kids to read ranting about fanfic, some of which is x-rated." It's also pointed out that some of the "minors" now being excluded are legal adults in their countries of residence.

But, she continues, sending a lemon to a person under the age of consent via email constitutes corruption of a minor, which, if prosecuted by a parent, could land someone in jail. That's not wank, it's fact. (Plz to ignore the total lack of any such prosecutions in the history of the internet. It's fact that it could happen!)

Yeah, says izzanami, you think telling kids to go to DW to see things ADULTS get triggered and squicked by is alright? You may think that sex should be an open subject for children (and I think it should be), but unless YOU are their PARENT, it doesn't matter.

(All arguments are more persuasive with some words in caps. Really.)

Jinxy says "it should be up to the minor in question's parent/guardian to decide what they deem suitable for their children's eyes, not any random person on the internet."

(LJ's staff is, of course, not "any random person on the internet." You *know* they polled the parents of every minor on that comm.)

Izza brings on the Special Logic: Even though *she's* an enlightened and sensible parent who doesn't believe in hiding the existence of sex from kids, it's totally reasonable for LJ to take a stand against it, because not every parent agrees with her, and *of course* policies should be based on the most hysterical parents' wishes.

Buried in the (mostly frozen now) subthreads are bits about how LJ is only protecting itself from lawsuits (which nobody is admitting has nothing to do with whether or not the content is dangerous for children), and speculations about the real purpose/intent of the "May Contain Explicit Content" tag: "Once a comm has even one entry marked as explicit it's supposed to be marked as 'may' contain explicit adult content, that "may" part is very important."—because once a comm. has a single locked-to-adults post, no minors should be allowed to join that comm.. Riiiiight.

Also includes tangential wank about whether FFR does, or does not, disapprove of loli. IDEK.

jadedissola explains the whole situation to an unhappy 15-year-old:
But we have to protect you from reading about such naughty things, otherwise you might get IDEAS and you might start thinking about trying this S-E-X thing for yourself! Clearly, without all this talk of sex, you'll never think of trying it on your own/fantasize about celebrities! What's worse, you might get the idea that sex is something to be enjoyed, maybe even celebrated! You need to understand that sex can KILL YOU (or at least give you babies).

Try again in three years when, magically, you become an adult overnight and suddenly your brain will be capable of handling all these grown-up ideas.
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Monday, January 18th, 2010

Reasoned and reasonable literary criticism, Kradam-style

[info]urpletastic
First attempt at posting, although I've been barracking from the sidelines for about a millennium now ...

[info]astolat posts A Matter Of Inconvenience, which is American Idol slashfic (Kris/Adam) with a 'Regency' setting. At least, that's the general idea, and harmless enough you would have thought - assuming that AI AU RPS is your thing. (Alphabet soup!)

[info]zvi, however, takes exception. Amongst other objections, A Matter of Inconvenience is not about race, thoughtlessly invokes colonial issues, and just doesn't put up any warning flags for those who are about to read it. Also, apparently, this is a thing Astolat fucked up. Everybody, please to endeavor not to fuck up like that with your next happy fun sexytimes historical.

What starts off as moderately polite discussion about historicity in slash fanfiction is, however, quickly derailed by [info]willow who offers the following reasoned evaluation: In the middle of the cuppa tea, the empire waist dresses and the ass-sex of your AU Regency - please to be remembering the hydra heads of colonialism and imperialism and what that means for and about your whitey white penis salt lick fan thought of the moment.

[info]liviapenn tries to calm things down a bit with some entertaining stuff about plumbers and blow jobs but this only serves to upset [info]willow further. Why is it that everytime I see you lately, you're happily shoving your foot into your mouth via your hindquarters? ... You keep claiming to understand your privilege and say you're reflecting on it and then you start chomping that feces encrusted shoe leather again. [info]willow's User Info states "'M brown and I have an attitude." No kidding.

[info]astolat's attempt to explain herself gets stomped on, and the desirability of historical accuracy in a Kris/Adam Regency alternate universe is lathered, rinsed and repeated for those who missed it the first time.

Small, but strangely vitriolic given the subject matter. It's difficult to imagine why people are getting quite so over-excited about one piece of costumed fluff in a universe of lesbian cars and tentacle porn, but it may keep us entertained while we're waiting for next incarnation of VB.

ETA: Okay, I get the message, I got it wrong - or maybe I just don't have a sense of humour? Either way, it was obviously a bad call. Lesson learned.
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Friday, December 4th, 2009

A diversion!

[info]the_mouse
I know we've had a few HP posts lately, so of course it's time for something Twilight related. I saw this posted in a forum I lurk in and felt some of you might find it interesting, even if it is a few months old.

This doesn't involve Twilighters so much as the dark side of the fandom: TwilightSucks.com. Specifically, the Fangirl Encounters forum.

First, the backstory. You see, the OP, Nyxbel Hawthorne, has a cousin who is a bit obsessed with Twilight. So obsessed, in fact, that when she catches Nyx browsing TwilightSucks.com, she is moved to spit in Nyx's yogurt when Nyx is in the other room. Nyx finds out with the spoon in her mouth, spits out the yogurt, then takes to the TwilightSucks fora in order to have the members come up with ideas for revenge. Interestingly, in later iterations of the tale she says she threw up for "a half hour" after, though in the initial post she makes absolutely no mention of this. She posts two threads, one in which members vote on which plan of revenge she should implement, and one in which she announces the winner.

What happens next is fairly interesting indeed. )

EDIT, per [info]ara: Seems the thread has been archived in the "Bullshit Encounters" forum. Was it all a dream?
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Wednesday, December 2nd, 2009

Lily Potter, a trophy wife

[info]mariem_1
The essay about Lily by [info]randomneses continues to attract crazy people. [info]oryx_leucoryx finally stopped wanking here, but don't worry! Enter [info]n1ght1ng4l3, who claims to be not a Snape fan and to dislike the Marauders and Snape equally, despite being a member of Snapedom and two Sirius comms (also such comms for butthurt fans as dh_oh_shit and deadlyhollow).

Wank ensues. Some comments by [info]n1ght1ng4l3:
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Monday, November 23rd, 2009

What kind of animal would Moses be, I wonder?

[info]gusty
This is one of those wanks that kind of speaks for itself, so that makes my job easy!

On the FurAffinity forums, Enoki posts a list of rules all furries should live by originally composed by a guy known as Sammyfox:

1) By joining this fandom, you agree that you will get ridiculed someday.

1a) You agree that you will act responsibly and maturely. This means that you won't, for example, try to blank that Encyclopedia Dramatica article you don't like. Not only this doesn't work, but it'll get you ridiculed even more.

2) Three words: Orthography, grammar, and punctuation. This fandom doesn't need idiots who can't greet someone without replacing entire words with abbreviations.

2a) I'm dead. Fucking. Serious. Writing like a mongoloid pisses off EVERYONE, especially those whose native language isn't English and who learnt it - be it entirely by themselves or with help. See, I learnt English ENTIRELY by myself, and while it's still not perfect, I'm doing my best to be comprehensible.

3) You will NEVER bother an artist with requests unless said artist SPECIFICALLY states he takes requests.

3a) In an art site which allows you to comment on an artist's work, you will NEVER ever type shit like "murr I'd fuck her/him/it/whatever" and the thousands of derivatives which are just as stupid and retarded. There are better ways to praise art.

3b) You are allowed to diss shitty art without restraint. Wannabe artists have the duty to use their judgment to assess the quality of their own art and to decide whether or not they should upload it. This is even more important when said art is drawn porn. If you can't draw anything correctly, DON'T UPLOAD IT. Do this fandom a favor and do not pollute the internet with your sub-par excuse of a drawing.

4) You will not take photos of yourself in a fursuit, no matter the costume's quality, where you are engaging in sexual acts, be it with another person, a sexual toy, or your hands. It's people like these who give this fandom a bad name.

4a) Diaper fetishists, stay the fuck away from this fandom. "Diaperfurs", get the fuck out. You are not liked in here. We hate you. You guys are awful even by furry standards.

4b) You are responsible for what you say in there. If you say that you diddled a kid or that you fucked a dog, you must accept the consequences.

4c) You will not take the defense of people convicted of serious crimes, and you will not complain if they get banned from a website even though their crime has nothing to do with it. (I'm looking at you, Frank Gembeck fans.)

5) Upon achieving fame, you will not act like a snob at others. You may be famous, but you are only known in the furry fandom. There's far better people out there, so don't let your ego take over.

5a) You will not rip off people. Your customers are most likely what helps you pay the rent. If you commit a fraud, and people gets word of it, you're pretty much dead in this fandom.

5b) You will accept responsibility for giving the fandom a bad name if you end up saying that you fuck your mate in a fursuit and proceed to parade with it on national TV.

5c) You will accept that we are entitled to hate you just as much as you hate us. You will not use substitutes to names (the usual idiots instead of liberals) to make your rhetoric sound more manly. It does not. All it does is make you sound like a pompous asshole.

6) You will not threaten to sue a website for failing to live up to your personal expectations. This means that you won't threaten to sue just because a site will not force your set of beliefs down the throats of others.

7) If you fail to follow these rules, we have the right to insult and humiliate you until you leave this fandom.


Guess how well this goes over?

Quotes over this-a way. Including good 'oil Godwin's Law! )
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