Over fanficrants; oceanica ranted about sexual orientation in Naruto fandom.
It looked normal until emperorsteele decided to join the rant.

"Could" provides for possibility. If something doesn't exist or is not true, then it's not possible.

Girl likes guy. She is straight UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. UNTIL that point, it's just whistful fantasy that she wants the clam.

Anyway, the OP was saying things like "Likes girls.. possibly bi". I mean really? What does it take to convince some people that someone is straight? In a boy's action story where romance is hardly ever a focus, no less?

Bit late to the party on this one, but I've got one name for you: Dumbledore.

Oh sure, point out the ONE time something like that happened!

I guess that means ALL characters are secretly gay!! My bad!!!

So on and on and on and on and on....

ETA: Fandom is such math.

MOAR ETA: It's dragged to ffrantsrants.

ETA'S MOM: Seem like he is having fun in another wank entry.

DEAREST PAPA OF ETA: Another butthurt and FFRR.

And no, I'm not going to defend this position ad infinitum for 5 hours straight against heterophobes. The OP asked for opinions, and I'm gicing mine. If anyone has a problem with this view, kindly count to ten and pass up on hitting reply, kthnx. My E-mail inbox is still crying from the last wankfest. Please, think of the inboxes!

My "problem" seems to be that I have an opinion about the nature of the written medium (and to a lesser extent, the nature of sexuality) which rubs people here the wrong way because they assume that having that opinion translates into real-life quasi-homophobia, making me a horrible person, thus giving them an excuse to attack me because it's not politically correct; or rather they feel compelled to disagree in order to defend their beloved slashfics.

ETA'S SIS: He is now temp banned from FFR

Dearest, beloved, Fandom Wank.

I know you were looking forward to great excitement today. Some of you said words to me that indicated you anticipated fiery 'judgement' upon those who remained fresh and dewey white, those you call n00bs.

Anyway, you got today instead.

Stop anticipating things, we'll just break your hearts.

Sincerely,

Sepia P. Magpie, Esq.



PS: Use this post to reflect on how you could be better people. Or just fuck around in the comments.

From a mouse on wank_report.

We have Bhree, a Naruto fan who's keen on the boysex. She is also keen on the getting doujinshi for free on the internets. And when a doujinshi artist, one Rauhreif (also keen on the boysex), complains that her work is being distributed without her permission, Bhree says:

... she thinks she deserves money for taking someone else's characters and making them have hot sex without the creator's permission. When I heard of this, I vowed that I would spread my seeds of discontent along with BB2, and hope that I can hear her wangsting all the way over here in the states. She's a great artist, but it's a shame she thinks the way she does.

Commenters to Bhree's post are, shall we say, most displeased with her. Apparently, Bhree has screwed "THE REST OF THE FUCING [sic] WORLD" by trying to make Rauhrief cry. How so?

Because, as a result of this post, Rauhrief decides to try and ban everyone in America and Europe from her website. As reported on the livejournal community chuunin (comm is flocked, but anyone's allowed to join):

If this is Europe and America people's common view, I never permit the access from the foreign country.
I do not say, "Do not scan and upload" for money.
You do not understand circumstances of doujin in Japan.
You say "Let's make Rauhreif cry" by selfish reason though you do not understand circumstances of doujin in Japan.
Therefore, I also prohibit foreigner's accesses by selfish reason.

The poster on livejournal even courteously links folks to "THE ORIGINAL IDIOT POST" made by Bhree.

Comments on the chuunin post waver between, "Stupid Bhreetard ruined it for all of us! How can people be so mean?" and, "wtf Rahreif overreaction much? Banning whole countries because someone uploaded your porn?"

With everyone all >:| and D: the whole thing is just o.O and that makes me ^__^
And I promise to never do that again anytime soon.
And I also just edited to fix some typos.

I'm moving this from C_W because this guy is wanky all by himself.

Meet Hiirowing aka Shirohane, a popular shota furry yaoi author in the Naruto fandom whose main pairing is SasuNaru. On December 16th, Shirohane posted a rant to his LJ in large red font. The rant has been reproduced here for those who don't want their eyes to bleed.


( Rant under cut )</ hulk>

Oh Naruto fandom, never change. <3


ETA: Thanks to jetamors for this link! ew_younerd has posted the best "public apology" I have ever read.

ETA Episode II: annwyd pointed these out, thanks so much! Apparently mention of Sakura around Shirohane is a no-no as seen in this thread. He also showed up in comments here in ew-younerd's LJ to post the entire "I'm suing you" thing.

The ETA Strikes Back: So ew-younerd has been alerted to us. Does this mean Shirohane isn't far behind?

Now with 50% more ETA: Shirohane has now disabled comments on the original post.

des_butterfly posts a link to her KakaSasu essay to chuunin. Normally a ship manifesto might not be a big deal, but Sasuke is 12-15 in canon, and Kakashi is his mentor. Naturally, allthingsaaron feels the need to inform us all that pedophilia is Sick and Wrong:

Pretty lengthy rationalization for fantasizing about a nearly 30 year old man fucking a barely-pubescent boy.

Some of the highlights:

"It doesn't matter if they're fictional characters!"

Obligatory Pedobear appearances

GRATUITOUS CAPSLOCK

The age of consent in Japan is somehow relevent to this discussion!

The author weighs in.

And just when Avatar thought it could start wanking with the big boys. *wipes tear*

ETA: And they've screened everything. Meanies :(

jennaland delivers, quite literally, thoughts on yaoi.

Okay, so I'm a bit of a SasuNaru fangirl.

I like my Sasuke x Naruto, not as fond of Naruto x Sasuke, but I believe everyone is entitled to their personal preferences. And hell, anyone who belongs to the same fandom I do knows we all have our own pairing preferences.

That's why when I see someone write something like, "Sasuke x Naruto and Naruto x Sasuke IS THE SAME DAMN PAIRING," I get a little ticked off. Because, sure, the pairing characters may be the same, but the characters themselves are different. Different personalities. Different motivations. You get the idea.

And if I , as a girl, identify more closely with a specific character (Re: Naruto), and like to project myself into the story I'm reading, then the positions of the characters during sex really do matter. Because as much as I like penis, I don't have one, and if Naruto is the one giving rather than taking, then I can't relate to the story as well as I'd like to.

So to sum it all up: Yes, there is a difference, and no, I am not ignorant because I think there is a difference.

Thank you for your time.

After the inevitable explosion begins, this edit is made.

*EDIT* (I hate to do this, but people seem to be jumping to conclusions about my rant. Jesus, 15 posts in 5 minutes...)

No, this is NOT a SasuNaru is better than NaruSasu rant, that all comes down to personal preference.

This is also NOT a rant about characters changing personalities depending on positions in sex. As I say in my post, I IDENTIFY more with Naruto as a character than Sasuke, and in R or NC17 fics that helps me get into the story. I never mentioned that I enjoyed an oc Naruto, really it is quite the opposite. And having a specific preference for a x b, or b x a in a fic that doesn't include sex? Doesn't make much sense.

What this IS is a rant defending my right to have a preference between SasuNaru and NaruSasu. That is all.

I personally wasn't aware that there was or should be a difference, but what do I know; I'm just a humble roboslasher. Also, is emasculinating an actual word?

EDIT: Apology posted while I slept. Original post has been ba-leeted, but screencaps are available in the comments.

As everyone knows, the comments at YouTube are generally shining oases of reason, civility, and spelling that vaguely resembles that of the English language.

( And if you believe that, there's a lovely bridge I'd like to sell you. )

There doesn't seem to be an age mentioned of the OW, but I'll be ready to delete if there is.

Over sasuxnaru, xxlovelyxhatxx makes the following post:

*sigh*
Am I the only one who has given up on SasuNaru in the cannon story-line?

Once you break it down, there is no hope for poor Naruto and Sasuke. In my opinion, Sasuke in too deep and impossible to save. (and don't gibe that; He will be set straight with a good, hot dicking thing eighter.)

As a fanfic writer (a very anal one at that) I'm starting to write and come up with allot of AU Sasunaru fics, because lets face it. It will never happen in cannon at this rate.

So am I the only one who thinks this

Some people agree.

Some other people don't

As a bonus? We owe the OW for bringing us The Requiem of the Innocent, a movement to stop NaruSasu

Gacked from wank_report.

Pairing Naruto and Sasuke is quite popular in Naruto fandom, but some people have very strong ideas about just how they should be paired.

On the SasuNaru comm, Agent420
rants about Sasuke/Naruto shippers: [WARNING: some of the pics linked in the post are NSFW]

Quite recently, I stumbled upon a few faithful NaruSasu fans spamming pics and witty dialogue in the name of fighting the good fight. Seriously, the disgusting number of butchseme!Sasuke and weepyuke!Naruto fans has started to grate rather nastily on my already frayed nervous system, and the contributions made by those sane members of the fandom was enough to inspire my own deluge of fanart.

Needless to say, response is swift.

Bonus: Apparently there is an entire comm devoted to this important question.