Nangbaby is boycotting Sailor Moon for crimes against humanity wait, wait, no, sorry, that was me listening to the language, not the message. Sorry, Viz is doing a redub with the cast's original names.

To quote Nangbaby so I don't misrepresent her:

I promised that I would leave the fandom if this happened and I will. As much as I would like to make it an immediate exit, please note that I have spent a significant chunk of my life loving Serena as Sailor Moon, Alan, Ann, Lita, Game Machine Man, Bertie, and Malachite (just like the sword in Ogre Battle). Forgive the dramatic death throes.

For those of you who think I’m overreacting, let me make this clear. Viz has essentially announced that the Sailor Moon loved by millions, the girl named Serena whose opening theme proclaims she fights evil by moonlight and wins love by daylight. is no more. She has been erased from continuity Sonja Belmont-style.

Now, I grew up with Sailor Moon like any red-blooded nineties Canadian, but I'm not sure quite sure what she's getting at. But she goes on to say:

Now imagine if George Lucas has in addition to making those changes, stated Chewbacca was actually canonically a lesbian and changed the scenes to make that very obvious, as well as claimed the Jedi’s goal was to oversee the development of humanity according to the Force and lead them into the light through taking over the Empire.

Now, this may have unfortunate implications with the fact the redub re-adds two original canon gay couples, but I'm also pretty sure Lucas did that anyway and we just moved on.

I mean, we all remember the makeout scene after Leia says she'd rather kiss a Wookie, right? And the interview with Chewbacca's new dub voice, Tilda Swinton, where she says she's proud to play Chewbacca as he was always meant to be - a proud queer woman covered head to toe in fur. She even did the interview in the Chewbacca costume, despite her height and the fact she actually did the whole role from a recording booth.

Sorry, I've deviated.

She knows who to blame, and she's darn well gonna do it.

As a normal person*, I have no powers against this blatant disenfranchisement and marginalization except that of my limited wallet, and I will say this. From this day forward I will not pay for an official piece of Sailor Moon material released from this date forward. I am boycotting Sailor Moon for the actions of Naoko Takeuchi — make no mistake Viz and Toei Animation are culpable as well, but in their defense, they are transparent in that they make the real culprit clear — the woman who authored the manga that inspired the anime and now has taken over the inspired creation.

She understands it's going to be a hard path, but she will face that path. And she's doing it because god help you if you call Sailor Moon Usagi.

I know my action alone is meaningless, but I encourage others to not pay and not give anything official any more time. It’s not enough to complain. We have to take the power away from them that we gave them to redress this wrong.

Sailor Moon CX will no longer update. As much as I would love to finish the story in a “Take That” no one reads it and no one cares, so I am abandoning it. I won’t burden people with my presence much longer.

To conclude, Viz is a monster, Naoko Takeuchi is a monster, and she's not posting her fanfic anymore.

Also there's a site!

The post concludes:

Edit: I’m back.

*blatant lie

Snagged from wank_report with some edits by yours truly.

In the land of the internets, there was a community called house_cuddy. For four years the denizens played and frolicked. Sunshine and lollipops ruled the day and unicorns ran free.

And then shit got real...

It all started on January 29, 2010, when someone spammed all over LJ House-related communities for merchandise from a Russian website. Most places ignored it but house_cuddy fed the troll with added anti-Russia wank for extra measure. Mod, lissiePissie, deletes the spam and in the afternoon announces that things have been so wanky that she's put the comm on moderated status.

Nothing could possibly go wrong with that, right? Right?

Oh nay- within a few hours, that post is deleted and fellow mod fishingvegas announces that he has kicked out lissiepissie and will be taking over.

( cut because this is getting too long )

OH SNAP- fishingvegas posted a response to everything-
http://community.livejournal.com/housecuddy_temp/3948.html DELETED

Yes, there were comments. I have caps of the first and third page which I will have up soon. He's gone through and deleted all comments.

EDIT: Here are the caps of fishingvegas' post along with two pages of comments before he got delete happy.
Page One with comments
Page Three with comments
Right before he deleted- disabled comments

EDIT AGAIN: And now it's back. Yeah, I don't know-
http://community.livejournal.com/locked_office/42889.html

Why they didn't kick him out the first time they got control back I will never know.

snatched from wank_report

"Someone" posts a secret (#114 now bahleeted--caps?) on fandomsecrets and the image is stored on her easily identifiable photobucket account. She claims to be lonely and not have any friends and she wishes the Avatar characters were her RL friends. But she means local friends, not imaginary intarweb bitches her LJ friends.

Responses are mostly of the "Oh, snap!" variety except for the "What am I? Chopped liver?" one. It's really a very mild response though yukinoomoni is outed by name.

( She doesn't overreact at all: )

eta: F_W is not your therapist. If you can't lol at a wank maybe you need to go for a walk. I thought this was funny. lol sociopath.

( Spoilers for Torchwood and oh god great linky madness within. Enter at your own risk. )

This post brought to you by the ridiculously helpful mousies on wank_report, the letter W and the number 4. (The W is for wut and 4 is how many cups of coffee I've already had today).

So who's been wondering what's been going on with Lady Sybilla and the Russet Doom Saga? I know I haven't! But here we are regardless.

First there was this May 5 message to FanHistory editor Tikatu on her talk page:

Hi, Tikatu. I noticed you've been the most frequent editor of the Russet Noon article, so I'm sending you an update on the "Blood Roses" image by Charli Siebert. I just received an email from her, informing me that she does not want me to use her image for the cover of the book.

Charli wrote to Sybilla: "Unfortunately, I do not give out permission for use of my work in any way, so you'll have to find another cover for your book."

Charli also added, "All of your advertising and marketing of the book containing the image will need to be removed from any and all publications. This includes all print advertising and websites that display the image. If there are websites that you are aware of that are displaying the book cover in question, it is your responsibility to contact them and inform them that they need to remove the image from their site."

Based on Charli's specific request, I am asking that you please remove the old Russet Noon cover currently on display in the article. And, if it's not too much to ask, please add a note to the article to confirm that Russet Noon will have a new cover image before it gets published. Please let me know if you need me to upload a screencap of Charli's email as proof.

Last part of the update is that Charli and I are in negotiations to have her create a new image exclusively for the new Russet Noon cover.

Thanks very much.

Artistic revolution 07:45, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Consider also this newly-added apology on the Russet Noon website:

On behalf of AV Paranormal and Russet Noon, we'd like to offer our sincerest apologies to Charli Siebert, the creator of "Blood Roses," the above image. We had used this image for the cover of Russet Noon under the mistaken assumption that it was a royalty-free image. Even though this image will no longer be on the cover of Russet Noon, we are extremely proud to announce that Charli Siebert is in negotiations with Lady Sybilla to design an image exclusively for the cover of Russet Noon. We look forward to revealing the new cover of the novel. Please click on "Blood Roses" to visit Charli Siebert's official site, Unimaginative.org.

As for Wikipedia, it looks like Potato Moon's page is pretty safe from deletion for the moment. The article currently identifies Russet Noon by name, with the explanation, "Stephenie Meyer uses the word "russet" numerous times throughout the Twilight Saga to describe the color of Jacob Black's skin." You will never guess who edited the article to include that superfluous information. The change occurred after this conversational exchange:


Oh, and how is old PAD's circle jerk parody novel coming er, going? Well, it's up to, like, Part 20, but I haven't read it past the first chapter so I can't tell you whether it's any good.

And now, for funsies! Sybsy's now been namedropped in the Small Name Big Ego article on TVTropes.

Aaaaaand we now have the QUEEN of this trope for Twilight fandom: Lady Sybilla, whom no one had apparently ever even heard of before in the fandom before she became the writer (and attempted publisher) of "tribute sequel" Russet Noon, and convinced the entire internet is made up of one person with a grudge against her after the fandom at large and fandom_wank told her that her understanding of copyright was... flawed at best. She was banned from The Other Wiki after refusing to believe that her "highly controversial" unreleased fanfic wasn't notable enough and continually reinstated its article. Try to read the Russet Doom Saga in all its glory and not boggle.

And for a little added lubrication? Lady Sybilla Apologizes to Stephenie Meyer for Writing Russet Noon. Why yes, that IS another press release, fresh just today! I c&ped it here in case you don't want to contribute to her page views (and she'll probably take it down again as soon as she has another change of universal mind anyway). She's also updated her Twitter for the first time since April as well.

I just returned from a nine-day trip, so I'm playing a bit of catch-up with my supplementary links list and link hub/screencap guide; I appreciate your patience. And you know what else I appreciate? When I got home this morning, you will never guess what I found waiting for me in my mail box. Except that you totally will.

It was lip gloss.

ETA: So I clicked a link back to the Russet Noon site, and found myself in a time warp. It seems Sybilla's reverted to her original format after so long. But before you start thinking she just fuxxored the files, check out the links at the top. She links to: her own Twitter, Comic Mix, Google News, Foforks, Wordpress, her own Myspace, IMDB, Wikipedia, the Wall Street Journal, Twilight Blips, FanHistory, Fanpop, the Small Name Big Ego TvTropes article, Amazon forums, the reupload of her reading the preface on tinypic, Buzznet, ONTD, Fandom Wank, the Twilight Lexicon, and Edward Heart Bella.

Screencaps forthcoming here (thanks ari_o).

Also we may have missed another in-between site version. Did anyone catch a screencap?) You can view the last edit to the Russet Noon site before this latest revamp here, where she had added the "temporary model" for Russet Noon's new cover art.

Below is a temporary model of the new Russet Noon cover image that Charli will be recreating. The copyright information for the artist of this talisman is currently unknown. Hopefully the efficient fandomwankers will help us track down the artist who originally created this talisman so we can give them credit. This is just a sample image of what the final design will look like.

She wants us to do her homework for her. Great.

ETA 2: I'm reasonably certain the Russet_noon twitterer is taking the piss. I quite like the blend of Snacky's and Godwin's Law lobbed our way.

ETA 3: FanHistory has given Lady Sybilla a space to speak her point of view. It's... uhmazing.

ETA 4: She took out her link to the Twilight Lexicon and added a new one to this article from RelateMag.com, which spells the title of the book Russet Moon. Still, I prefer this version of the RelateMag article:

There’s a ‘new’ Twilight words that is dated people to charge alarming waves across the the public. Sure you’ve irrefutably impute to a fraction of fanfiction stories that takes the Twilight psycho we fondness and puts them in bizarre scenes, rewrites parts of the books, adds scenes prospect to be missing. The words is all fustian up to Jacob and what happens after Breaking Dawn. But Lady Sybilla has written an uninjured words entitled Russet Moon and she’s flourishing to advertise it. Some people improvise it is flourishing to be smashing addict fiction. Others imagine it is unconditionally miscarry. To affect the dip on the words button the website.

It's like it went through Babel Fish and crawled back out again, weeping bitterly about its lost messages and implications.

Some backstory: About a week ago, rather unfortunately around the time of the completely mindblowingly awesome Transformers: Animated season three premiere, the Transformers Wiki broke. The host decided to upgrade without backing the Wiki up or telling anyone about the upgrade, and was generally incompetent. Everything was rolled back to the last backup-- which was from even before they moved in from Wikia-- and everyone went JKDHSKJDHDSHJ until a bunch of people got together to help download the pages from Google's cache and wrote programs to convert it back to Wiki format from HTML. Understandably, it's a bit of a mess.

The "Bookworm Virus" refers to a catastrophic database fault suffered by TFWiki on the evening of March 15, 2009. Though the initial cause remains obscure, a variety of complicating factors resulted in a total loss of TFWiki's database and all backups, rolling the site's clock back to mid-July 2008. -- TF Wiki entry on the event.

In search of fans who have strong opinions, lonegamer78 comes to the IDW forum to ask for some help. Jeysie, a fellow repairfan and someone who flounced from the forum some time ago, comes in to echo the request. Badly.


The old Wikia site's kind of gone to pot due to vandalism and poor editors... you'd think for all of the people who bitch about how we'd do things, they'd go and turn the old Wikia site into how they'd want a TF Wiki to be... but I guess they're too lazy to do anything but whinge about those of us who are willing to spend our free time adding information to a Wiki. </controversy> Razz

bloodandsteel doesn't find this to be very pleasing, and gets into a snit-fight with Jeysie on it. Jeysie is insulted that the fans don't appreciate all her hard work.

Let me lay this out. Our whole wiki got hosed by someone's unauthorized incompetence . I just spent upwards of 20 hours over two days trying to help so far. We're going to have to reformat and repost over 9000 pages. By hand.

You'll pardon me if my sense of humor is not working at the moment. You'll also pardon me for telling someone with zero sense of tact exactly how it is.

bloodandsteel also complains that people are being hypocritical by complaining on the talk pages, while others claim that the Wiki shouldn't have so much humor in it.

I call bullshit.

So if I were to write a completely unbiased page about you that gave you undeniable glowing praise and told about how lovely a person you are and then went into the Talk page and slagging trashed you and everything you've created for everyone to see and trashed the people who went there supporting you, that would be acceptable behavior?

I should tell Shane that!

Answer: No it wouldn't be alright. It would make me two-faced, and I'm not. If I don't like something or someone, I let them know unless I'm required to behave in a professional manner.

In summary it's a slap fight between people claiming that the other side was mean to them first, with the neutral parties headdesking all over the place. A rather normal day on the IDW forum, really.

Watchmen screenwriter David Hayter writes a sincere but slightly tongue-in-cheek open letter on Hardcore Nerdity to Watchmen fans and non-fans, to urge them to see the movie more than once in order to understand it.

One of his other points is that he thinks those who hate the movie on principle without having seen it should let it marinate in their minds and give it a chance:

It may upset you. And it probably will upset you.

And all along, we really meant it to. ...All this time, you’ve been waiting for a director who was going to hit you in the face with this story. To just crack you in the jaw, and then bend you over the pool table with this story. With its utterly raw view of the darkest sides of human nature, expressed through its masks of action and beauty and twisted good intentions... Like the Comedian on the Grassy Knoll. ...You'll be thinking about this film, down the road. It'll nag at you. How it was rough and beautiful. How it went where it wanted to go, and you just hung on. How it was thoughtful and hateful and bleak and hilarious. And for Jackie Earle Haley.

Trust me. You'll come back, eventually. Just like Sally.

Comments begin in the 'we love Watchmen (although some of us have reservations about the swinging massive blue dong), go Dayter' mould, until people, from page three onwards, suddenly notice the metaphor he used to describe how the movie should make you feel:

DUDE. No one asks to be cracked in the jaw and bent over the goddamned pool table. Was there NO OTHER ANALOGY you could have used? Do you realize that you're comparing your movie to a rapist and the moviegoers to victims asking for it? And what is this "You'll come back. Just like Sally" crap? Do you have any f***ing idea how offensive that is? Could you not have come up with some other analogy, some other pithy tag, something that doesn't make it out like the Comedian was doing Silk Spectre a f***ing favor when he beat her bloody and tried to rape her?

Did you mean to do that?? If not, erm, consider your words more carefully next time you do the "open letter" thing, because wow, did that part get away from you.

Dayter comments on page 7 with an apology claiming he does not condone violence against women, which is edited into the original article. People briefly thank him for apologising, and then attack him again. Dayter responds graciously via huge spoonfuls of sarcasm and retracting his apology (page 8):

Clearly, you can't get less hateful or spewy than that. I humbly retract the statement.

Anyway, I'm sorry you disliked the film.

And you're right, I don't know why I ever set out to do this in the first place. It's really the world I'm hurting. Damn my family, and their almost-constant need for food!

On top of all of this there's huge amounts of movie rage, but the best thing about the whole altercation is the people at Hardcore Nerdity going so far as to make a video response urging people to LEAVE DAYTER ALONE, starring a very angry Dr. Manhattan.

What follows is an account written by swsa, a friend without a JF account, and it is such a classic take-the-money-and-run story that I present it to you unaltered (well, okay, I threw in some links).


In Moonlight fandom, their high priestess of campaigning is named Leeser. Leeser's status in the fandom grew and grew as she organized fan cons, did the leg work for their Variety ad, etc. She is absolutely beloved and a hero of their cause. Which is why another fan apparently felt secure enough to give her $11000 in order to pay for bus ads to run in L.A. ( This ends about as well as you might expect )

ETA ∞: I was waiting to update until the supposed Leeser-vindicating deadline this afternoon, but it looks like... I don't even know what. So:

The donor updates:

The ad agency has stated they cannot confirm whether the funds are available or not. The New York office is placing at least a 3-5 day hold on Lesser's account in order to verify funding with the bank, however it may be longer. They are now hoping to be able to post this account on Friday. The ads have arrived and are waiting in the warehouse. Lesser is aware of this. I am so angry at this moment I dare not say too much more. One thing I must say though is to Lesser: Shame on you! To put me through this is one of the most unconscionable deeds I have experienced in my life.

Also: Homophobia on Leeser's board? Convention money shenanigans? Sockpuppetry? (Note: the Blue Whale Pub board seems to be down at the moment.)

ETA ∞ +1: And now about $8K in convention funds cannot be accounted for. (More.) Yes, we are pretty sure this is not VB on the rampage again.

ETA ∞ +2: I think dhaunea called this one...

ETA ∞ +3:: The ads are going up on Monday?

ETA 9/29/08: Y'all, please somebody take this over and do a new entry or something. I can't keep up with all the board shenanigans now.

Meet kyuuketsukirui. She writes reviews for SGA on her LJ , and recently reviewed a bunch of stories on mcshep_match. kyuuketsukirui commits the unpardonable fandom sin of saying she's disappointed in the latest mcshep_match stories and will be posting her reviews soon.

Meet lamardeuse. She doesn't approve of kyuuketsukirui's disappointment in the stories or her reviews and says so. Many people agree with her, in the process confusing concrit and reviews. kyuuketsuikirui shows up to politely disagree. lamardeuse and her friends don't respond well. darkrose brings in a bit of Earth logic, but it's not enough to leaven out the massive amount of Unclear On the Concept, alas.

So kyuuketsukirui writes a post clarifying her position on reviews and reviews of fanfic and fandom.

zillah975 makes a post about this whole civility/reviews/concrit situation, including a thread in which anatsuno laments that life on the Nice Side ain't all it's cracked up to be. telesilla does a post too.

No responses from lamardeuse and friends. At least, not publically. That wouldn't be civil, after all.

ETA: Supposedly lamardeuse was responding to lavvyan, though kyuuketsukirui's post seems to have been the back-breaking straw.

I found this at wank_report and have too much time on my hands this week. There were 333 comments when I started the recap.

MTV.com has a Twilight Tuesday thing every uh, Tuesday. Let me 'splain, no there is too much. Let me sum up. Stephenie Meyer's Vampire series Twilight is now also a movie coming out in December and staring Cedric Diggory (aka RPATZZ). MTV is making the movie and this blog every Tuesday is part of their marketing strategy.

Today's post is about three sophomore girls from Texas who formed "The Bella Cullens." Larry, the blog writer, falls all over their jailbait asses:

"I had seen their MySpace page and heard some of their songs, but I was honestly amazed by how pretty their voices and melodies are, and with lyrics like “Edward’s so hot he can set the house on fire/he’s a sexy vampire,” these teens already have more talent than all the Pussycat Dolls put together."

1. Those are good lyrics? WOT?
2. More talent than the who now? Doesn't slime mold have more talent?
3. The band's name abbreviated is BCP. But remember only condoms help prevent STDs.


Most comments are some variation on "Larry, you fail" or "I <3 LARRY!":

Edward Cullen Says:
July 8th, 2008 at 9:50 am

My Sparkly Peen sings better, even when it drools for muh Bella.

But Janet comes to Larry's rescue:

Janet Says:
July 8th, 2008 at 10:02 am

Yikes people are being harsh. :) He has a lot of weeks to fill before december and I’m sure summit wouldn’t let him give us big stuff like clips every week and remember these are a gift. I’ve never seen people do something like this before to promote a movie…weekly updates I mean. Larry, I really thought it was the trailer this week and now I feel silly.

Under the cut I C&P for your pleasure.

( It goes back and forth between the Twimoms and the Twatlighters and the haters. )

ETA: LARRY SPEAKS!:( Read more... )

ETA w/XTRA SPARKLES: http://www.thebellacullenproject.com (warning: music embedded in site) is getting spammed on the comment pages by people claiming to be from ontd_twatlight. Twatlighters are saying it is not them. (Sorry can't like to comment pages directly.)


cleolinda convinced me to add the BONUS EW COVER FROM HELL!!!1:
http://www.stepheniemeyer.com/
21 pages of OMGWTFBBQ at ontd

ETA part 9.546382023: MTV blog has posted the EW photo. There may be more comments to come though currently it is at 0. Larry wants to know what people think! *CACKLE*

Oh yeah... I forgot to say 'sorry' in my last post.

Modsquad out. *snap* *snap*

Dearest, beloved, Fandom Wank.

I know you were looking forward to great excitement today. Some of you said words to me that indicated you anticipated fiery 'judgement' upon those who remained fresh and dewey white, those you call n00bs.

Anyway, you got today instead.

Stop anticipating things, we'll just break your hearts.

Sincerely,

Sepia P. Magpie, Esq.



PS: Use this post to reflect on how you could be better people. Or just fuck around in the comments.

Most of these links came from the many diligent wank_report mousies; I have merely compiled (and maybe editorialized a little).

dodger_winslow makes some icons:

As many of y'all know, me and many of my closest LJ friends have been utterly appalled and deeply outraged at what we see as a growing trend of disrespect for Jensen and Jared as people in the very fandom that professes to adore them for being the genuinely good and generous guys they are.

Some people make responses along the lines of "Chill the fuck out, I can make fun of celebrities all I want and guess what? It won't actually hurt them in any way."

Like affectingly:

Hey, don't appreciate my loving mockery of Jensen Ackles? That's fine. I don't expect everyone to participate in that or to think that's a fun way to express one's love of something. I'm a sarcastic bitch and I'll be the first to admit that. But you don't get to label me or the people who DO think it's funny as bad fans without looking like a complete asshole yourself.

alazysod posts some response icons with text such as "Because this is polite stalking" and "Because nobody likes a Fatty!Jensen"
Among others, ladymirth takes offense and calls alazysod "a jerk with an entitlement complex who just can't WAIT to mock people for having ethics." Comments were deleted in that thread EDIT: alazysod to the rescue! part one and two.

Ok, that's all I got. Anything I missed?

EDIT: In addition to the response icons mocking the original icons, there was also cran's post of icons pointing out the hypocrisy of requesting respect for the actors, when many of said respect-requesters are filled with hate-fueled glee when one of the female actors does something dumb.

EDIT again: traveller also has some stuff to say about the dangers of Fat!Jensen. And how mocking celebrities is like rape.

Thanks to a mousie on Wank Report. Lacking in virulence but with some enjoyable exchanges.
The game begins when NucMed makes a complaint post on the USA boards called "Getting Sloppy":
Monk is a fantastic show. I just hate that they have gotten so incredibly sloppy with this season ending show. I don't know who did their hospital research, but they should be fired. The most glaring error is the medical coat that Dr. Scott is wearing. Coats are an EXTREMELY revered part of the medical repetoire. There is even a ceremony when you graduate from Med School. You see, a med student wears a SHORT coat until graduation. On the day of graduation, someone who is already a physician gives a LONG coat to signify acceptance into the "franternity" of doctors. No doctor, ESP someone of Dr. Scott's reputation would be caught DEAD in a short coat!!!
The British Airline Pilots Association would like to point out that it takes a chap six years to become a fully qualified airline pilot, and not two. (phone ring) Yes, ah yes - yes. (puts phone down) My wife just reminded me that on a recent 'High Chapparal' Kathy Kirby was singing glibly about 'Fly me to the Stars' when of course there are no scheduled flights of this kind, or even chartered, available to the general public at the present moment, although of course, when they are BALPA will be in the vanguard.

( Read more... )

First wank report! Read first, shoot later, yeah? And if this belongs in the Cornfield, let me know and I can move it. ETA: This is all thanks to a mouse on wank_report. AND I fixed my tags.

With a thread title of No Place In R/hr Fandom For Ginny-haters?, I feel so isolated it was only a matter of time before the wank started.

On page one we meet our wanker—the OP Rinny1000. She very frank about hating Ginny. Opening with the line I hate Ginny. But she's polite about it and ( explains herself )

...she also says that she feels weird about disliking her so much, being a diehard martinet about R/Hr.

The first few posts generally agree that Ginny wasn't their cup of tea and it's all very polite.


Still, it's GINNY, yo. So Shiiki very kindly explains that there will be wank, because All right, I'm not sure if everyone will start glaring when I say this, but I am a Ginny fan. Now, I'm not trying to bash you anti-Ginny people, but I'd just like to say a few words on her behalf.

Because Ginny really needs somebody on her behalf. Because it's not like she's a fictional character with no feelings or anything.

Much of the pro-Ginny statements can be summed up as "she's a kid!" and "you don't understand, so I will explain it to you in carefully tl;dr statements.

Bartholomew JoJo Simpson, who doesn't like Ginny, sums up the pro-Ginny arguments for our OP. YOU'RE SEXIST!! YOU HATE GINNY BECAUSE YOU WERE UGLY AND UNPOPULAR IN SCHOOL AND JEALOUS OF GIRLS LIKE GINNY!!!11! YOU'RE JUST A MISOGYNIST WHO HATES STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS!!

But adds the line Ha, ha, ha, just playing with you. (with an adding laughing face)


Rinny1000 really kicks things off at the end of page one by lamenting that It's funny, but it's sad. I expect leaps of logic on that scale from rabid H/Hr fans. When I get it from my fellow Goodshippers, it makes me sad, it really does. and apparently inviting people to defend Ginny even more fervently because…

Malaleen ( has had enough of the Ginny hate )

…and ( has a little drama about that )

evanesco75 seems to want people to admit that ( 'You're calling her a slut!' )


Sordina ( calls her on the attitude )

Mod PythonBlossom throws in a few cents, among the change is a politely worded ( Sexist h0rz )

Which doesn't bother Rinny much, but thankfully Bartholomew JoJo Simpson shows up to give us a nice translation of: OMG sexist!!!11! (with a smiley face) and assures all that ( he hates the other Weasleys, too )

Something that has been going around lately... The anti-yaoi-ness. I’m sorry if this is OT (I have a nasty habit of that) but I’ve seen many yaoi fans say bad things about “their own kind” because of certain practices."

Own kind?

She goes on to well, basically sound like a martyr. Oh, and "squicked by het"? Well, if someone can be squicked by yaoi...

At any rate, this "plea for tolerance and togetherness" just sounds like a plea for spooge.

"This makes me a sugeified loser."

Well, at least you're honest.


As for the replies, it looks like many people agree with her. So, I didn't see any wank there, but that OP...eesh.