Thursday, June 10th, 2010

Youthwank: LJ is protecting children!

[info]elfwreck
Livejournal decided to tag fanficrants as may contain explicit content, which means that nobody logged in as under 18 can see the posts. People logged out can see them, and click the "Yes I'm 18" button—but ffrants doesn't allow anon or non-member commenting. Officially, it doesn't allow sockpuppets, either.

The wank is playing out in a couple of posts at ffrantsrants

jinxy_sama is surprised anyone's upset:
I thought it already was marked Explicit Adult Content. I have to say I find it surprising that so many of you who so vehemently disapprove of loli/shouta ... would not dissuade actual underage individuals from creating socks or moving to DreamWidth in order to view content inappropriate for children, ie. rape, bdsm, a myriad of different kinks, explicit smut, etc, etc. With the comm in such disarray over the inability of minors to partake, maybe it's a good thing LJ took the reigns."
Several people point out that "not wanting kids to read x-rated fanfic" is not the same as "not wanting kids to read ranting about fanfic, some of which is x-rated." It's also pointed out that some of the "minors" now being excluded are legal adults in their countries of residence.

But, she continues, sending a lemon to a person under the age of consent via email constitutes corruption of a minor, which, if prosecuted by a parent, could land someone in jail. That's not wank, it's fact. (Plz to ignore the total lack of any such prosecutions in the history of the internet. It's fact that it could happen!)

Yeah, says izzanami, you think telling kids to go to DW to see things ADULTS get triggered and squicked by is alright? You may think that sex should be an open subject for children (and I think it should be), but unless YOU are their PARENT, it doesn't matter.

(All arguments are more persuasive with some words in caps. Really.)

Jinxy says "it should be up to the minor in question's parent/guardian to decide what they deem suitable for their children's eyes, not any random person on the internet."

(LJ's staff is, of course, not "any random person on the internet." You *know* they polled the parents of every minor on that comm.)

Izza brings on the Special Logic: Even though *she's* an enlightened and sensible parent who doesn't believe in hiding the existence of sex from kids, it's totally reasonable for LJ to take a stand against it, because not every parent agrees with her, and *of course* policies should be based on the most hysterical parents' wishes.

Buried in the (mostly frozen now) subthreads are bits about how LJ is only protecting itself from lawsuits (which nobody is admitting has nothing to do with whether or not the content is dangerous for children), and speculations about the real purpose/intent of the "May Contain Explicit Content" tag: "Once a comm has even one entry marked as explicit it's supposed to be marked as 'may' contain explicit adult content, that "may" part is very important."—because once a comm. has a single locked-to-adults post, no minors should be allowed to join that comm.. Riiiiight.

Also includes tangential wank about whether FFR does, or does not, disapprove of loli. IDEK.

jadedissola explains the whole situation to an unhappy 15-year-old:
But we have to protect you from reading about such naughty things, otherwise you might get IDEAS and you might start thinking about trying this S-E-X thing for yourself! Clearly, without all this talk of sex, you'll never think of trying it on your own/fantasize about celebrities! What's worse, you might get the idea that sex is something to be enjoyed, maybe even celebrated! You need to understand that sex can KILL YOU (or at least give you babies).

Try again in three years when, magically, you become an adult overnight and suddenly your brain will be capable of handling all these grown-up ideas.
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Wednesday, July 16th, 2008

ataniell93 doesn't care, but F_W are still mean, nasty people!

[info]anarchicq
EDIT: In light of the more recent wank involving FH and Laura, the links to her site have been removed.

Secret post that started it all. Specifically Secret 130.

It's an attack! But, don't worry about taking it down - I'll just try to divert attention to Michela instead. Looks like someone's never forgiven FanHistory either, and lays all the blame on Michela even though it seems other moderators there were involved.

ataniell93: There's no reason for you to know about me - that's why I repeatedly posted in this topic while signed in

SO RIGHT.

Leave Britney ataniell93 alone!

Here we finally see the truth: F_W hates me because I'm better than them!

Fail. The main reason F_W dislikes me is that I used to be part of F_W because some of my friends liked it, and then I saw that what F_W does is wrong, and instead of slinking quietly off into the dark and trying to forget it, I denounced the community. Period. I will never be forgiven for that, but I don't care, because it's not like I'm forgiving F_W next week. I still think who some of my friends are is part of the issue, but the main issue is that you all resent me for eating the red pill and waking up to what we were doing.

I guess we're all still in the Matrix.


And a personal note: Can one really be a part of F_W? It's not like we're Anonymous or anything.
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Monday, June 23rd, 2008

Fail mods are failing

[info]sepiamagpie
Dearest, beloved, Fandom Wank.

I know you were looking forward to great excitement today. Some of you said words to me that indicated you anticipated fiery 'judgement' upon those who remained fresh and dewey white, those you call n00bs.

Anyway, you got today instead.

Stop anticipating things, we'll just break your hearts.


Sincerely,

Sepia P. Magpie, Esq.



PS: Use this post to reflect on how you could be better people. Or just fuck around in the comments.
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Saturday, February 16th, 2008

"You mean when I write slash, I'm having sex with the women reading it?! EWWW!"

[info]pyratejenni
Or, Why Fannish Meta Can't Have Nice Things.

Over on LJ, [info]hth_the_first makes a post about how slash and queer aren't the same thing. There's some interesting discussion, lots of personal insights and it's chugging along smoothly...until page 2.

[info]miriam_heddy's comment includes this idea:

And while most slashers may well self-identify or live in the RW as heterosexual, in terms of behaviour, I'd argue that those same het slashers are often participating in homosexual activity.

mrs260 objects to that, inspiring this post's title, and asks for clarification. [info]harriet_spy breaks in:

Surely you did not mean to come into the LJ of a queer person and suggest that homosexual activity is disgusting, did you?

One can disagree with the analysis without suggesting that it leads somewhere loathsome.


Turns out mrs260 is a gay man, so along with not being all over the ladies, "Besides the whole fact that I'm attracted to men, not women, I don't think it's out of line to think it's icky to see someone postulate that one has been unwittingly participating in "sexual activity" with any number of friends, acquaintances, and strangers."

And it's on. The thread grows, people continue to having Learning Experiences with [info]harriet_spy, mrs260 clarifies, and later on, friends of his show up to support him in brand-new LJs (never a good move) and get into it with [info]liviapenn.

Old-time BNFs. Accusations of homophobia. (Putative) sockpuppets. All that's missing is plagiarism allegations.
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Friday, April 28th, 2006

HP Fandom is Run by Fandom Wank!

[info]narcissam
Sequel to the big pureblood racism wank ahoy! Ishtar79 blames Fandom Wank. Other posters agree. Apparently, we're intolerant of any meta that mentions "WWII, racist organizations, and Lucius Malfoy" (unless we write it),FW members can get away with anything in HP fandom, and we break Snacky's Law on a regular basis, but [info]snacky is a hypocrite and lets us do it.
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Tuesday, April 18th, 2006

[info]nqdonne, SUPRA-GENIUS!

[info]pyratejenni
Over on [info]i_wank, [info]nqdonne posts about her LJ rant on JKR's treatment of female characters that got wanky..

Nothing wrong with that, right?

Unless you're trying to avoid wank People grumble about the new "posting on [info]i_wank excludes you from being posted on [info]fandom_wank rule.

The mods have a change of heart
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Friday, January 16th, 2004

Perhaps you've noticed

[info]rogue
[info]fw_deathmatch has returned. And it seems there's been a change.

Edit: Uhm. JF ate any code I put in. Not sure what I did, there.

Edit 2: Juuuuust kidding. I am sure what I did, I typoed massively. Dur.
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Probably not a good idea...

[info]rann
But since that rarely seems to stop me:
fw_d_deathmatch
Your one-stop shop to bitch, flame, and generally wank each other over the deletion of FW_Deathmatch!
Go get 'em, tigers.
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fw_deathmatch is no more.

[info]elfy
[info]fw_deathmatch has been deleted.

The results for the latest round were released declaring [info]bohicamouse winner over [info]oulangi.

There was outrage. There were claims results were rigged [obviously, or else [info]oulangi would have been the winner - anyone who looked at the voting coulda seen that!]. [info]fw_deathmatch went on the defensive. Wank happened. Journal was then deleted.
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Wednesday, December 31st, 2003

For Psychoaddict

[info]cesare
Since [info]psychoaddict has opted to turn off comments to her announcement -- a complete wank hat trick, I'm impressed!-- I'm creating a new post specifically for comments and mockery of her little stunt here.

Enjoy.
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