Spoilers for the Season 9 of Supernatural ... again ...

So the Supernatural fandom is divided between an old guard and a new breed, between J2 shippers and Misha minions, between LiveJournal and Tumblr, between the True Fans who know that the show is about two brothers and whatever the hell Destiel shippers are. Heretics? And spn_gossip, being on Livejournal and filled with J2 shippers and tinhatters, is of course opposed to the Destiel tumblrites. Anyway, some anonymous person claims that they have insider information about the upcoming season, specifically that "-There will be canon Destiel this season, and it feature in 9.04. Sorry guys. -By canon Destiel, I mean that Dean and Castiel are going to be in an acknowledged romantic relationship." (Later, they clarify, and, honestly, it doesn't sound any more or less "romantic" than any scenes that Dean and Castiel have had before, but whatever.)

Most of the thread is people arguing about the anon's legitimacy and whether this squares with other information, etc., but an anon breaks it up by saying, "Cards on the table: I'm a pro-canon Dean/Cas shipper, and I REALLY doubt this. Are you sure your source isn't reading too much into the usual lol-gay the writers do?"

And, of course, another anon wants to know why a Destiel fan would be interested in Destiel-related gossip:

And you're lurking here? Ugh.
Probably one of our resident trolls.
Nah, you guys are amusing enough without trolls. Actually, I'm kind of annoyed when trolls show up, because I enjoy seeing what you guys come up with on your own.
A) You sometimes have good spoilers
B) Your haterade is lulzy
C) A lot of people lurk here.
We're lulzy? This lack of self-awareness from the most moronic desperate set of fans is hilarious. Even Robbie [Thompson] threatened to block you lot on twitter. Also at least we stan attractive men, unlike old decrepit looking like Misha.
Think what you want of me, I don't care. Let's not change the subject. Which is the credibility of these spoilers.
I'll do what I please. I will never understand how you think you're better when Misha is not cute like even little on top of the bad acting. I'm a shallow bitch... so yeah I'm totally confused at how smug and bragging you trolls are considering your crappy taste.
Someone with a sock twitter should tweet this to the writers/producers. Like to see their reactions to it.
Look, I'm sorry I said you guys are lulzy. The only reason I brought up shipping was to make the point that I'm not buying this.
I don't care that you think we're lulzy. No sane person prefers Cas or D/C. You should apologize for existing.
I take it back. This is what I was talking about when I said you haterade was lulzy. I should apologize for existing because I enjoy one particular fictional character over another. Okay.
Get some perspective. It's shipping, not religion.
But being shallow is perfectly reasonable, hon. If Misha was pretty I would judge Destiel shippers less. I feel the same way about Sherlock/John, why would anyone want to read/watch porn about those two.
shygirl_withcas: Yeah because we (Destiel shippers or supporters) only care about the porn, PLEASE, we see so much beyond that. BUT I still find them really hot (And Johnlock is skdfjsklfj PERFECT too)
Of course you see more-- you see shit in canon that isn't even there.
shygirl_withcas: You shouldn't be able to see love even if it hit with a trunk. *So blind*
Yes we see love between Sam and Dean, the actual canon soulmates on the show. Blind is the Destiels who don't see there's no one else for Dean and he don't fucking want Cas. Jensen said Dean is straight. Get it through your thick shipper goggles addled head. IF he would end up with someone willing to play 2nd fiddle to Sam in his life, it would be with a woman.

And then someone posts, all in italics for some reason,

Cockles (ewww worst name ever) and destiel is not even remotely in the same ball park as J2 as a figurehead name for what people see between Jensen and Jared.

They are best of friends, they play the closest of brothers on t.v. They express this in both onscreen and off screen. They have chemistry up the wazoo, they are the figureheads of this t.v. show and they've done it together.

I'm a het and yes both are imaginary imo but atleast J2 have a base, a substance something you can say, aww, cute and adorable and even they know it. Destiel isn't even remotely on screen or real or even a part of the t.v. show called Supernatural staring Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki. So don't try to make it that these things are the 'same' they are anything but. Its like comparing a stallion horse to a piece of shit.

I leave you with these thoughts:

Furthermore I am totes not watching episode 4 and onwards because while destiel isn't made canon, I know for sure because what the OP have us doesn't mean destiel at all, I won't sit around watching the cas show with a side of the dean and cas show, such boron crap all around. This is the storytelling the show has degraded too

All right, this one's a little late according to the WR comment, but I'm posting it anyway because this shit's too damn funny to let it pass.

Search the Taiora or Sorato tag on tumblr and you might run into the news that Hiroyuki Kakudou, the director for the first two Digimon series, recently answered questions about Sora and Yamato getting together at the end of Digimon Adventure 02 instead of the statistically more popular favorite, Taichi and Sora, on his Twitter account.

A while ago, Jippy posed a couple of questions to Kakudou via Twitter about what went on with the executive decision to make Sora and Yamato the canon pairing. He answered that Sorato had been planned since the beginning of Digimon Adventure, and that Taichi and Sora were never meant to be. Jippy took to tumblr and made some tl;dr posts discussing his replies, as well as using it to push her explanation of "Sorato is real" and overanalyzing the Taisorato relationship to contribute to individual character development, along with contradictory statements that Digimon was supposed to focus on friendship, not romance.

Lots of butthurt ensued.

( And here is some of it! Warning, tumblr links )

I personally never had a bone to pick in this fight since I hung out in the Jyou/Mimi corner and refused to touch the Taiora vs. Sorato vs. Taito bullcrap (specially since Sora was so hated by all "corners"), but still. Dammit people, it has been like... 10 years, if not MORE?

This just happened on Tumblr, and I think everybody involved is more confused than anything else. Our dramatis personae are Fuchsiamae, Tumblr Portal fandom's most vocal and prolific Caveline shipper, and a persistent anon.

( Cervidae of the Turquoise Persuasuion )

A fierce and long-time battle has raged between the Wincest (Sam/Dean) and Destiel (Dean/Castiel) shippers in the Supernatural fandom. What's that? Ships that don't involve Dean? Ha, ha!

Of course, Wincest fans have to constantly put up with harrassment because the guys are brothers so they get a lot of "Ew, that's sick!" and "Do you want to have sex with your brother?!" But mostly the wank comes from Wincest fans who are dedicated Castiel/Misha Collins haters, and Destiel fans who are Sam/Jared Padalecki haters, and despite these being a decided minority there being many prominent except to these stereotypes, each side continues to paint the other with the same brush.

Lately some shippers decided that it would be appropriate to bring an actor's two-year-old son into the debate, because that's always classy.

The tumblr blog "Things Better Than Destiel," which has listed such things as genocide, miscarriage, and, charmingly, rape, created a post that reads "Things That Are Better Than Destiel: ABORTION" and then tagged it with "West Collins," who is Misha Collin's two-year-old son. Katie (tumblr URL: kickitintheslash), writes:

Despite their claims that “THIS BLOG ISN’T POKING FUN AT ATROCITIES The only thing being mocked here is destiel,” I think this post alone makes the true intentions of this blog quite clear. West Collins is a CHILD. He has nothing to do with Destiel nor is he even aware of its existence. Tagging him - with the obviously implication that Misha and Vicki should have had him aborted - crosses a serious line. Rape jokes are horrible enough on their own… but this is almost ominously threatening. Even if you hate a ship, character, or actor… tagging innocent children in your hate posts (especially posts implying the child shouldn’t be alive) is too far. Wishing a child weren’t alive… that’s not comedy. That’s sick and too deplorable for words. Same with jokes about rape.

and,

What next? A hate blog against Wincest tagging Thomas or “Baby Ackles” in abortion posts?

Oh, it's already happened, but it wasn't anti-Wincest.

But come on, you say, surely nobody is trying to defend Things Better Than Destiel! Prepare to have your faith in humanity crushed once again, because people are. Writes anon,

I follow things-better-than-destiel and I really love it, since the Destiel shippers were really asking for such hate: they left hate everywhere, disrespected other ships and acted like assholes. I'm sick and tired of this part of the fandom and I'll support this blog no matter what. Because at the end the Destiels get that they deserve.

("the Destiels"?) The owner of the blog Things Better Than Destiel is unlikely to remove the West Collins post, seeing as how s/he wouldn't remove the "rape" post despite getting, by their own description, over a hundred messages asking them to do so. Because FREEDOM OF SPEECH, BABY!

A different tumblr user, whose URL is wincest-heaven, because of course it is, has apparently had it up to here with West Collins, and makes someecards graphics to express their feelings, seemingly in response to this video of West and Misha cooking a meal together. The first:

"Thank you for teaching me how amazing it is to be born into white privilege, Dad!
Now the world knows what a wasteful spoiled brat I am.
Let's send our video to the black kids in Haiti. Bet their bellies will hurt, when they see all the food I've wasted!"
"Oh bug, next time you go shopping be careful not to wonder into traffic and get squashed!"

The second:

"Being born into white privilege is fun. I can be a spoiled, wasteful brat and people still think it's adorable."

The third might tumble into meta commentary:

"Hey look, dad! They're talking about me on tumblr. Does that make me famous? Being white sure is nice!"

Not for nothing, but do you know who is also white? The Winchester brothers.

Surprisingly, this move does not endear Wincest shippers to Destiel shippers:

The thing that annoys me the most about (some) Wincest shippers (besides the fact that they ship Wincest) is that not only they hate Cas for no reason (he only dragged both of the brothers out of Hell and saved their lives three million times, nbd), but that they project that hatred onto Misha, and now West. WTF I WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE, HE IS TWO YEARS OLD! ARE YOU NUTS?! He is not a “spoiled brat”, he ain’t privileged (even if he is, that’s none of your concern), he is a kid with two loving parents who let him learn stuff by doing. I’m sorry that your mama didn’t hug you enough and your papa hit you with a stick every time you didn’t finish your food, but stop spreading your hatred, you fucking dickheads.

I'm sure West, who has two wealthy parents, isn't privileged at all.

For more reasoned discourse, watch Supernatural, Season ... they're considering a spin-off?! God, this show won't die!

(I haven't seen any of Teen Wolf yet and I know as much about it as Gingerhaze, so if I get anything wrong - please help me out by correcting me!)

The website AfterElton.com is holding a tournament-style poll to determine the most popular slash pairing, and the championship round comes down to Sterek (Teen Wolf) vs. Destiel (Supernatural). It's a very close contest, and supporters have been tweeting official working-on-the-show people to get them to promote the poll on Twitter. This is a good short summary. Jeff Davis, producer and writer for Teen Wolf, replied to some tweets about it in August, but things really started to heat up with Misha Collins, who plays one half of the Destiel pairing on Supernatural, found out about the poll:

This homonormative poll makes me sick! http://www.afterelton.com/2012/09/ultimate-slash-madness-tourney-championship-round … -- No one could seriously think that those Teen Wolf jerks are gayer than us.

Then Stephen Lunsford, who plays "Matt" on Teen Wolf, replied:

@mishacollins I love you bro...but you will lose. LOSE I TELL YOU. Mwaha. MWAHAHAH. mwahaha. ha.

And then posts a link to the poll. Other various actors from both shows start tweeting links to the poll, though as of now, Misha is the only person actually in the pairings to respond. Even the official Twitters for both shows pimp the poll and encourage people to vote for their respective slash pairings.

Thing is, there is much less fighting between the two sets of shippers than one might expect; many people ship both and have trouble choosing who they are going to vote for. But people really care about who wins; why? Because if Sterek wins, it will become canon! (Naturally!) But while they're passionate, most of the shippers aren't hateful; the solution to this conflict is, of course, porn:

“You didn’t think you were going to win that easily, did you?” Destiel growled, nipping the younger wolf’s ear, revelling in the shudder it caused.
Sterek raised a trembling hand towards the chiselled half angel’s jaw. He stared at him, unflinching, before taking the older man’s lips between his teeth. He smirked at Destiel’s sharp intake of breath. “I never said it was going to be easy.”
” You can’t win this, Sterek. You’re too young.” Destiel replied hoarsely, hands clenching on either side of Sterek’s hips, steadying the wolf on his lap.
“I’m only 5 seasons younger than you, Destiel. I can handle it.” Sterek retorted breathlessly, before rocking himself shamelessly on top of the sexy hunter.

So, no, it's not from slash-fans fighting amongst themselves, but from, who else, crazy Supernatural fans:

(link) No, it's not until Sunday, but since Misha tweeted about it,Destiel is in the lead by about 2 percent. Stupid Misha, just had to whore himself out over a poll that has nothing to do with SPN only because he feels this kind of poll is the only way he will stay relevant. He is an idiot and I feel sorry for himself because he is going to be an actor that is only remembered for slash and fanfiction and porn. That isn't good for his acting future career. I really think he should start thinking twice about what he tweets but I don't think he ever will because he probably knows that he won't ever have something legitimate after SPN. He is just creepy, I mean I forever will remember himm as a pedo because of his role in that one film, where he admitted that after filming that movie he started looking at kids differently then he should. Does he not think about what he says?

(link) Is this a shock! Misha Collins was always going to pimp himself out. Unfortunately he has no care if it ruins Dean Winchester in the process. Because yes, I believe Castiel has female and male in him so he is definately bi and Misha is also imo.

Misha likes any attention. We've had Jared and especially Jensen lately getting attention and its been all J2, now he wants some attention even though its negative.

The thing is for Sterek, they are the show and this poll only is a continuation of what the story is about and will make the show better. Destiel winning will make the show worse and the online part of fandom nasty and vindictive. This isn't the show and winning this they will only want it actually in the show.

What has happened to Sterek, I thought they had the bigger fandom. I am calling cheaters! Destiel always cheat and there is no way they got that far ahead. I mean I know most of them have no life but still, the lost to Glee.

And someone creates a tumblr called Spn Fans Against Destiel - sorry, SPN FANS AGAINST DESTIEL in all-caps - which, I'm gonna warn you, is really fond of homophobic slurs.

People are upset, of course, but the unpleasantness that the Supernatural fandom can produce remains unsurpassed. In that respect, Supernatural has definitely got the Teen Wolf fandom beat.

Edit: Jensen Ackles is not okay with Destiel and therefore Misha's a dick for talking about it maybe? Jensen Ackles doesn't have a twitter so he won't be commenting on the poll. They're referring to an incident at this year's Comic-Con where a fan outright asked Misha and Jensen what they thought of Destiel, and Jensen replied that he didn't know what it was. Observe what is either passive-aggressive hostility or cheerful acceptance, depending on who you ask! Is Jensen stroking Misha's cheek a sign of, like, something? I can't tell anymore. It's turtles all the way down. Gay turtles.

A good part of this report comes from wank_report. Thank you!

The tale began last week. As you may ot may not know, ( spoilers for the last manga arc ). Surely that will mean the whole fandom will be united in ~love and peace~, huh? Wrong!

( So let's hear it from the dear mousie... )

Meanwhile, as time passed, the kerfuffle was mentioned in wank_report. That ended as well as you'd expect.

But wait, there's more! This week's spoilers and manga chapter bring the wank, too!

( And it keeps going, and going, and gooooooing )

Let's stay tuned and see how far this goes. Oh Bleach, you always bring the wank instead of washing it away. =D

ETA: And now Debbie speaks! Oh, Debbie. *shakes head*

ETA2: Orihimeeeeee is a SELFISH, STUPID, INFERIOR WHOREBAG who only thinks of Ichigo and nothing else, and we'll keep INVENTING random shit to PROVE IT becuase we HAETS HERRRRRR!

SpoilerTV.com is running a poll for "Favorite TV Romantic Couple"; recently they had a playoff poll (I think that's what it's called) to determine who would take the last 5 spots, and what's this? Why, it includes Dean Winchester and Castiel from Supernatural!

Don't watch the show? Dean is a demon hunter who shoots monsters in the face with rock salt, and Castiel is the gruff-voiced grumpy trench coat-wearing angel who gripped Dean tight and raised him from perdition, and no, they are not a canon couple. ( minor spoilers for episode 6X17 )

Edit: To add a cut and a spoiler warning

Edit 2: Wincesters are allegedly voting against Dean/Castiel due to shipping bitterness. As of right now, though, Dean/Cas is beating Dan Humphrey & Blair Waldorf from Gossip Girl 3,105 votes to 887.

Brief disclaimer: this wank, while funny, there is, quoth a fellow FW member, "one dickbag who starts using slurs." There are one or two instances of this. For the most part, I've tried to minimize these insults.

Anyway, it's more pony!wank.

Equestira Daily is a fansite for My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, with a very specific group of fans: /b/ronies, or those who have come to the show through 4chan. It’s neat layout, regular updates, and ability to break Pony-related news, however, has made it pretty indispensable for any fans of the show.

You’d think that a place originally created and geared to 4channers would be pretty inhospitable all year round. However, as you might have learned from this previous wank, MLP:FiM has really softened its /b/ronies. Hell, they’ve even held events like Derpy Day, an event dedicated to sending messages of friendship, as well as sharing muffins, with people.

Anyway, this is a fandom website, and as such, you might find pictures and images dedicated to shipping. There’s even smushed names; for instance, AppleDash refers to pairing pony Applejack with Rainbow Dash. Shipping is a little controversial in MLP:FiM, because all the characters are ponies, or at the very least, some manner of animal (griffon, zebra, buffalo…). There has been some discussion of whether this is furry or not, but for the most part, people have learned to stay away from things with [Shipping] labels if they don’t like pony!ships, and people are usually tolerant of shipping discussions in comments to more general posts.

Usually.

Cottonmouth is not supportive of the alternative lifestyles of lesbian ponies. In the comments for the post discussing the latest episode, he was displeased with some casual shipping discussion. (Specific shipping comments can be found at the beginning of the comments in this post. As you can see, pretty tame, talking about cute moments, and done in a polite fashion).

( More drama under the cut )

PS: If you want to see an example of the guy's fic, I recommend this story in which he personally insults fandom for liking an ascended meme character (Derpy Hooves), ends by saying “And then they had lesbian sex” in the belief that this will increase readership, kills off one of the main characters, and insults another fandom member by implying that he plays too many video games via a music video. Oh, that Cottonmouth. He's a real gem.

Well well, seems it has been a while since the last time Bleach wank has been posted here! Here's one that may be small and kinda silly when compared to others, but it's still tasty.


Ulquihime shipper finds an Anti-Ulquihime fanclub on the internet and writes a butthurt blog entry on Deviantart about it:

"= 3 IF any anti-fans out there is reading this, you can throw all your arguments at me , it would be a pleasure to respond to them. I'm not some crazy Ulquihime fans like you think we are ; )

; D like my dear friend said : BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!"


So of course, people bring it on.

( Overanalysis! Orihime bashing! IchiHime bashing! Really bad English! It has a bit of everything! :D )

But she just won't stop there! She HAS to let the world know how hurt she is!

... Yes, everyone MUST knoooooow...

And she swears she didn't go into the FC willingly. She just googled it. RLY.

*sheakes head* For someone who claims "live and let live! ship and let ship!", that's quite the amount of butthurt. Thoughts, dear F_W?

Oh, wank_report. I've missed you guys! *c/p's, then feeds the mice until their bellies are full *

So, according to wank_report, this week's spoilers are out, but the main topic isn't about what really happened is but OH MY GOSH! ICHIGO AND ORIHIME TOGETHER AGAIN!!1!1!!111 AAAAAAHHHHH, THAT BIIIIIITCH!!!111

And many, many, many rants like that in the IR FC and bleachness.

( HDU, HDU, INOUE WHY WON'T YOU DO THINGS THE WAY WE WANT YOU TO YOU BITCH! )

Basically: Orihime it's the only one to blame, forget the latest culprits... it's all her fault.

*breaks the popcorn and keeps watching*

EDIT: The translation hits Bleachness!. With jewels like "Zorrihime Inoutil", to start!

Son of an Edit: Debbiechan speaks!

Daughter of an Edit: Kubo likes trolling spiteful Orihime haters, news at 11.. NEWSFLASH: Debbie refuses to believe it!

* feeds the mousie from wank report before C/P'ing starting*

Chapter 422 reunites the Great Bermuda Triangle of Bleach Wank, with Ichigo obviously giving a lot more attention to one side than the other...

( Start your wank engines! Obviously, HUGE spoilers. )

Stay tuned for next week's installment, when Rukia and Orihime both get more panel time and we find out wtf Ichigo's problem is!

ETA: Naruto Fan people have something to say, too!

Son of an ETA: Grudgewank or not?

Recently, the creators of Avatar: the Last Airbender announced a new series that's coming in 2011, titled Avatar: Legend of Korra. Normally this would be cause for joy and celebration, considering how many people enjoyed Avatar's first run, but wait! Ships from the first series are confirmed to have lasted? And they're not the ones I like?

Note: there are mild SPOILERS for Avatar: Legend of Korra here.

( 23,256th verse, same as the first )

I expect this will be ongoing as more details about the new series emerge.

(I would just like to add that I am SO EXCITED that there will be more Avatar universe stuff, personally. I could not care less about shipping right now, when we are getting a female Avatar.)

ETA: There is now a great comic about the shipwars. (And the original threads are frozen.)