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insignificant other (snacky) wrote in fw_debate,
@ 2007-12-19 07:08:00

Anonymous commenting
If you want to discuss solutions to the spam problem, feel free!

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	lil_miss_stfu 2007-12-19 12:32 pm UTC (link)
	Short of JF offering free accounts to any and everyone, I don't think there's much that can be done. I doubt blocking IPs would do much good and you can only do it after the fact... (Reply to this)(Thread)

	snacky 2007-12-19 01:29 pm UTC (link)
	Right, and blocking IPs can only be done at an administrative level, by either ZR or Robin. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	charmian 2007-12-19 12:35 pm UTC (link)
	Isn't there still that comm on LJ that offers JF accounts? Why not publicize that again? However, I don't think that there's anything that f_w can do by itself.... Is it possible to collect IPs of repeat spammers and ask the owners of JF to ban them? Or to implement captchas, which may cut down on spam? Or to screen all anonymous comments? (Reply to this)(Thread)

snacky
2007-12-19 01:32 pm UTC (link)

Isn't there still that comm on LJ that offers JF accounts? Why not publicize that again?

Good call. We'll do that.

The IPs seem to be really varied, but we can ask. The captchas would have to be implemented site-wide, I think, and that would be a problem for

lol_meme (I don't know if they're having a spambot problem, or if it's just wank comms).

Screening anon comments could work - then it would be up to the individual wank poster to unscreen them.

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altoidsaddict, 2007-12-19 05:10 pm UTC

	hinoema 2007-12-19 12:41 pm UTC (link)
	This may be a stupid idea- but would it be possible to add (for the 'anonymous' posting option) one of those 'enter these letters to prove you're human' boxes? It's just a simple generation script, right? has no idea (Reply to this)(Thread)

	hinoema 2007-12-19 12:45 pm UTC (link)
	(I'm assuming the worst offenders are bots, of course.) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

snacky, 2007-12-19 01:34 pm UTC

	stella_polaris 2007-12-19 12:46 pm UTC (link)
	Didn't there used to be one? Or am I going senile? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

ashenmote, 2007-12-19 01:03 pm UTC

tunxeh, 2007-12-19 07:32 pm UTC

	ashenmote 2007-12-19 01:02 pm UTC (link)
	If it's applied all over the site it would kill the lol_meme though. I wonder if it would be possible to design it as an option that communities can turn on or off. I can't think of a reason why not, but then I know nothing about scripts. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

snacky, 2007-12-19 01:32 pm UTC

ashenmote, 2007-12-19 01:39 pm UTC

ms_treesap, 2007-12-19 01:47 pm UTC

phosfate, 2007-12-19 02:22 pm UTC

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phosfate, 2007-12-19 02:47 pm UTC

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youngcurmudgeon, 2007-12-19 08:08 pm UTC

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jaina, 2007-12-19 08:54 pm UTC

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miss_padfoot, 2007-12-19 10:31 pm UTC

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deliciouschaos, 2007-12-19 11:30 pm UTC

ashenmote, 2007-12-19 02:37 pm UTC

phosfate, 2007-12-19 02:39 pm UTC

frequentmouse, 2007-12-19 05:14 pm UTC

puipui, 2007-12-19 06:42 pm UTC

kijikun, 2007-12-19 07:08 pm UTC

blue_penguin, 2007-12-19 09:49 pm UTC

kijikun, 2007-12-19 10:35 pm UTC

tofuknight, 2007-12-20 01:17 am UTC

miss_padfoot, 2007-12-23 10:12 pm UTC

gloria_mundi, 2007-12-19 09:13 pm UTC

ruuger, 2007-12-19 01:50 pm UTC

ashenmote, 2007-12-19 02:28 pm UTC

snowden, 2007-12-19 05:06 pm UTC

sopdetly, 2007-12-20 12:27 am UTC

hinoema, 2007-12-19 01:51 pm UTC

ashenmote, 2007-12-19 02:25 pm UTC

phosfate, 2007-12-19 02:45 pm UTC

gloria_mundi, 2007-12-19 09:12 pm UTC

white_serpent, 2007-12-20 01:02 am UTC

gloria_mundi, 2007-12-20 01:06 am UTC

qem_chibati, 2007-12-19 10:30 pm UTC

stella_polaris, 2007-12-20 01:06 am UTC

evilsqueakers, 2007-12-20 03:35 am UTC

stella_polaris, 2007-12-20 04:40 am UTC

evilsqueakers, 2007-12-20 05:01 am UTC

threegoldfish, 2007-12-19 03:09 pm UTC

brown_betty, 2007-12-19 06:05 pm UTC

threegoldfish, 2007-12-19 06:18 pm UTC

brown_betty, 2007-12-19 06:28 pm UTC

smashingstars, 2007-12-20 03:29 am UTC

littlest_lurker, 2007-12-19 07:03 pm UTC

kijikun, 2007-12-19 07:09 pm UTC

flightstothesea, 2007-12-19 09:31 pm UTC

puipui, 2007-12-19 09:33 pm UTC

crickets, 2007-12-19 10:12 pm UTC

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ashenmote, 2007-12-19 08:17 pm UTC

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ashenmote, 2007-12-21 09:13 am UTC

	bunny 2007-12-19 03:18 pm UTC (link)
	Those can be read by a lot spambots simply using OCR. The annoyance will be high, the visually impaired users will be left in the dust and the effect on the spammers might be negligible. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

puipui, 2007-12-19 06:54 pm UTC

luthe, 2007-12-20 12:24 am UTC

tangentialone, 2007-12-20 10:28 am UTC

	photosinensis 2007-12-19 12:46 pm UTC (link)
	Nec eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet. (Reply to this)(Thread)

onaga, 2007-12-19 04:27 pm UTC

photosinensis, 2007-12-19 04:30 pm UTC

apoplexia, 2007-12-20 11:27 am UTC

photosinensis, 2007-12-20 04:01 pm UTC

	khym_chanur 2007-12-19 02:12 pm UTC (link)
	How about disallowing anonymous comments from containing URLs at all? Some time ago the LJ code changed so that HTML links get changed to boldface non-link with the URL displayed in parentheses as non-clickable text, but apparently that doesn't discourage the spammers. (Reply to this)(Thread)

jujubee, 2007-12-19 02:50 pm UTC

rikiki, 2007-12-19 04:03 pm UTC

jujubee, 2007-12-19 04:27 pm UTC

puipui, 2007-12-19 06:50 pm UTC

magnolia_mama, 2007-12-19 07:07 pm UTC

puipui, 2007-12-19 07:12 pm UTC

khym_chanur, 2007-12-20 01:31 am UTC

tangentialone, 2007-12-20 10:24 am UTC

	xturtle 2007-12-19 02:49 pm UTC (link)
	It looks like it mostly happens in older posts -- is there any way for mods to turn off anon in individual posts after a certain amount of time, or would the OP have to do that? (Reply to this)(Thread)

katarin, 2007-12-19 03:45 pm UTC

snacky, 2007-12-19 03:52 pm UTC

sashenka, 2007-12-19 03:54 pm UTC

	altera 2007-12-19 06:35 pm UTC (link)
	Is there any way to get openID working on here? I know that's a more technical solution, but it would allow for non-anon commenting without accounts. (Reply to this)(Thread)

esclaramonde, 2007-12-19 07:29 pm UTC

qem_chibati, 2007-12-19 10:33 pm UTC

altera, 2007-12-19 11:28 pm UTC

puipui, 2007-12-20 01:41 am UTC

altera, 2007-12-20 04:01 am UTC

	black_spot 2007-12-19 07:12 pm UTC (link)
	Can someone else screen comment if the OP goes to bed? Living in the UK means I can’t always keep up with comments. I like the kitten verification idea, with screening. *was once anon and with posting off, it’s like having your nose pressed against a toy shop window with no money. (Reply to this)

	puipui 2007-12-19 07:14 pm UTC (link)
	Socialism was banned for nothing. :( (Reply to this)(Thread)

kijikun, 2007-12-19 07:19 pm UTC

	tunxeh 2007-12-19 07:37 pm UTC (link)
	Implementing OpenID would help, as it would let LJers comment here non-anonymously without having to get an account. (Reply to this)

	phosfate 2007-12-19 08:16 pm UTC (link)
	Can't we just kill them? (Reply to this)(Thread)

ashenmote, 2007-12-19 08:34 pm UTC

phosfate, 2007-12-19 08:35 pm UTC

cleolinda, 2007-12-19 11:23 pm UTC

kijikun, 2007-12-19 11:43 pm UTC

stella_polaris, 2007-12-20 01:03 am UTC

miraba, 2007-12-21 09:47 pm UTC

apoplexia, 2007-12-20 11:28 am UTC

vzg, 2007-12-20 12:05 am UTC

	gloria_mundi 2007-12-19 09:09 pm UTC (link)
	Back when I joined JF, you could only get an username if someone vouched for you. (Reply to this)

	jrs1980 2007-12-19 10:06 pm UTC (link)
	I'm sorry, I thought you guys would find those links helpful!!!1! (No, I do not have anything actual to contribute.) (Reply to this)(Thread)

puipui, 2007-12-19 10:15 pm UTC

vzg
2007-12-20 12:08 am UTC (link)

Didn't someone mention before something about a username that was passed back and forth between the anonymice, where they got it for a day and all that?

But then, that does sort of open it up to people too young to be on JF, too, doesn't it?

:/ Well, so far I like the "turn anonymous commenting off on a particular post after X days" best, but I'm not sure how effective it would be...

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lil_miss_stfu, 2007-12-20 02:26 am UTC

	emiweebee 2007-12-20 01:53 am UTC (link)
	All this, and we still can't post comments about sociali$m. (Reply to this)

	missdaisy 2007-12-20 02:46 am UTC (link)
	STOP DOING MATH! (Reply to this)

	tangentialone 2007-12-20 10:18 am UTC (link)
	What about captchas... but only for anon comments that contain a link? That would let most lol_meme comments through uncontested. Of course that wouldn't catch all of them but it should get most. (What is up with the ones that don't even have a link or say the name of the site?) (Reply to this)(Thread)

jujubee, 2007-12-21 01:11 am UTC

tunxeh, 2007-12-22 05:16 am UTC

	herdivineshadow 2007-12-22 12:50 pm UTC (link)
	I've been getting a lot of that over on my account on greatestjournal. :/ But it's unlikely they'll come up with a fix over there. (Reply to this)

	anon_a_mouse 2008-01-09 05:13 pm UTC (link)
	I'm unsure whether this should go here or to the livejournal dev team, but perhaps it would be best to do what anonymous message boards do for spam bots. Impliment a hidden text-entry field that a bot would fill out, but humans wouldn't. Bot fills out field, bot can't submit text. (Reply to this)

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