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Gaga vs. Xtina stans [07 May 2010|11:26pm]

flyingphoenix
Since a few days....okay, I'm honest here it has been months if not years that "oh no they didn't" is my daily fun, it is far more entertaining than any Wank-Community on JF. Anyway since a few days I recogniced some epic entries on ONTD about Lady Gaga and Xtina, stans are uncertain who stole from who....very entertaining. A few bits of Spears thrown in the mix and you certainly have fun for a few hours, esp. reading this comments.


A few favourite entries:

OMLG: Lady GaGa Reaches God-Like Status In China


RollingStone: Why Godney Spears' "Telephone" Beats Lady Gaga's By a Robo-Mile

Last but not leasr....this entry by an Admin of ONTD, which invites the wank:
THIS IS A DISASTUH 
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When corps start walking again [13 Jan 2009|10:10am]

flyingphoenix
Harmony Boards are Back!


After four years Harmony Boards return but it isn't just a simple coming back online, it is much more a rebirth of an idea.We return with new, fresh colours and a brand new concept. Harmony Boards will be a place where you find exclusive reviews for several categories such as: Music, Movie, Games and Literature. Old and new Members are invited to send in their own reviews of their favourite or least favourite products and to discuss already existing reviews. We like to provide a place, where you have an interesting discussion whether your favourite book really deserves the given rating or not. Maybe some of our future reviews will help you to buy a product you're going to love and appreciate the work behind. This is our goal in the end, that you'll have it easier to find among all the products some who really deserve to be bought.

An Idea is born

In every city you'll find shops where you can buy some Music-CDs, Movie DVD's, Games and a lot of books but how often did you buy a book or a CD you considered to be a complete waste? Most of all how often did you buy this things after some magazines recommended them? We all made at some point or another similar experiences. This is hardly about the money but much more about the time we give away by reading, watching, playing and listening to things which aren't at all that entertaining, that thought provocative like we expected. It is also about how companies will react if they see a certain product sales well while others just don't sale that well.
If millions of people buy music which is in fact no good, don't expect that companies sale rather good music if it means to lose millions of Dollars. Truth is if we consumers buy in majority only junk products, really good products won't be as much available in future. Talented writers, musician's etc will never get a chance to become great. If we start to get used to medium quality we'll have a hard time to experiences great quality.
Sadly reviews from magazines aren't that often objective either.
We love good music, films, games and books that's why we thought about this all and came up with this concept. We as consumers will write reviews and discuss them. This way we can inspire us each other to buy a certain product after we followed some of the discussions.

How it works

We have two kind of memberships: Member and Reviewer.

Member:
- takes part in discussions in already existing threads
- may post threads and entries in our Harmony Tavern (Off Topic-Section)
- can become a Reviewer by sending first review to our Administration

Reviewer:
- creates new threads for their reviews
- takes part in discussions in already existing threads
- may post threads and entries in our Harmony Tavern (Off Topic-Section)
Rating System

We won't tell you how you have to go about your review, whether you put picture's in it or whether you go into every detail that's up to you. However we like to use only one rating-system considered that all members need to get a clear idea whether a product can be recommended or not. We came up with following system which should be placed at the very end of each review:

Pro and Contra List
Here you write up what you really like or hate about the product.

For Example:
Pro
- Fascinating Story
- Nice Twist

Contra
- Bad actors
- some boring scenes


Thumbs-rating
With this picture's you show us whether this product is any good, bad or about all right.







Last Point

We got you all interested and you like to take part? Visit our board and bring it back. Old-Members or New-Members can go through our Archives and can get back together with Harmonians in our Harmony Tavern to have fun. Come back on board and make it alive again.

Links
Harmony Boards
phoenixfeder2002_at_yahoo.de <----Admin-email for Reviews

Upcoming Reviews
Music: Chinese Democracy - Guns N' Roses
Movie: Revolutionary Road
Games: Lord of the Rings Online

Even wanker are...welcomed oO, what a strange world it has become.
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Miss C ....wants some wank. [22 Oct 2007|11:37am]

flyingphoenix
You certainly know this feeling, we all felt like that at one point or another after the last Potter book was published, missing the wank. There is just no good wank anymore or just not enough? Ah well Miss C feels your pain too and decided to push a few buttons, in hope to get her wank:

Finally...

... I have seen the light.
It took a long time for me to understand this, but now I can freely admit that this fandom, moderate, open-minded and smart as it is, has allowed to reach a new comprehension of Harry Potter. And so I decided to attempt a re-write of Deathly Hallows that would bring the series to the satisfying end it so gravely lacked, and with a firm intention of sending this to Bloomsbury, along with the following explanatory note : Harry Potter and its characters no longer belong to JK Rowling. They belong to the fans who paid for her shit! By right of wankery, she should hand them over to us, have her fingers crushed by boulders and her tongue torn out with red-hot tweezers.Dedicated to the folks at anti_hg, even though they're totally not watching - because in this cruel, cruel world it's good to know there are still some class acts around. 


You think, they got that non-canon shippers were supposed to react and get all wanky about this?
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Lets ship Harp/Jo now. [04 Oct 2007|04:26pm]

flyingphoenix
It has been a while, no? But you can always count on the old, bitter feelings of shippers. What would be HP-Fandom without prejustic, without dislike and "i'm going to pwn you"?

JK just can't do math is all. With all due respect, the amount of mistakes she made has me guessing that this is just another one, as well as a way to keep the story going. It'll be a thrill to the younger fans to know that "Harry is still alive and right now he's head of the Ministry! She's trying to get some kind of plausibility going. Sweet intentions, crap execution, as usual. I mean she wanted have the book take place in the present, but thanks to Nick's cake screw up...

^That's how a hell breaks loss...what do you learn? Never claim JKR is crappy in mathe and all in a Journal of a JKR-Fanatik. Esp. don't try to pretend everyone should be allowed to ship what they like. You all know...HP-Fandom doesn't work like that. There is always just one ship you're allowed to support. Always MY SHIP, GOT IT?
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This icon will always be appropriate. [06 Aug 2007|01:07pm]

shantari
[ music | "Blame Harmonians" - Me. ]

Once again, H/Hr-shippers are to blame for anything bad happening.

If you'd rather NOT be reading a stick-figure comic, here's the down to business summary:

Livejournal.com banned users for having drawn pornish fanart of wht they consider to be minors. Never mind that the HP kids are grown up both in the books and in the fanart, somehow they're considered to be minor. However, someone didn't think that was the real reason. Because we all know, that if something wank-worthy happens in the HP-fandom, H/Hr-shippers must be to blame in some way. The art in question happened to be of Harry/Snape so therefor it's obvious, ain't it? H/Hr-shippers are angry because they have to compete with even more ships than R/Hr or H/G. So therefor it must be a H/Hr-shipper in livejournal.com that has decided to ban all non-H/Hr-art. Or heck, just to be on the safe side, all slightily pornish art whatsoever!


See, it's all the H/Hr-shippers' fault. You can't prove otherwise! They hate slash. They have too, otherwise it wouldn't make perfect sense!

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Emerson....like totally *pwned* [27 Jun 2007|01:52pm]

flyingphoenix
[ mood | *drool* ]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh We're back, just in time. *puh* I thought we might miss the next few weeks without any wank at all. Well, I was wrong. Sure there were here and there some funny entries but nothing really nice. But...ahh...Emerson rescued this community.

He posted this on Mugglenet:
WARNING: This is a very opinionated post!

Keith Olbermann has made some bold public predictions about the end of the series on his TV news show, Countdown with Keith Olbermann.Make sure you read the second page of the article before makingjudgment. It is my personal belief, and not necessarily that of therest of the MuggleNet staff, that he is not far off the mark in hisguesses. Except for that whole Harry turning into a muggle business. Imean, really?

In other news, Scholastic has published the results of their fourth fan poll question. They claim a majority of fans - 56%- believe that Harry will end up with Hermione, 20% believe that Ronwill end up with Hermione and 19% believe that Harry will end up withGinny.

Um, was Scholastic polling people who have actually read the books? 56%of fans are wrong. I quote JKR, in the interview Melissa and Iconducted with her two summers ago:

JK Rowling: Yes, we do now know that it's Ron andHermione. I do feel that I have dropped heavy hints. ANVIL-sized,actually, hints, prior to this point. I certainly think even if subtleclues hadn't been picked up by the end of Azkaban, that by the time wehit Krum in Goblet...

I would think it's difficult to interpret "Yes, we do now know thatit's Ron and Hermione" and "anvil-sized hints" any other way, butapparently 56% of fans disagree with me (or just haven't read theinterview... or book 6... or book 5... or book 4...). But then, manyfans still believe Dumbledore is alive, despite JK Rowling saying thathe is "definitely dead." Come on, guys. Wishful thinking isn't going to bring him back.

Note that the question wasn't Who Do You Want to End Up With Whom?, but Who Will End Up With Whom?.There's a difference between wanting something to be true, andbelieving it is true. There is a word in the English dictionary forholding a belief without evidence, and in the face of overwhelmingevidence to the contrary... I'll give you a hint, it starts with a D.

UPDATE: I don't know if I can make this any clearer, but I will try one more time.

I am not calling all Harry/Hermione shippers delusional! Irespect H/Hr shippers who acknowledge the obvious: that JKR paired upRon and Hermione, but wish she hadn't. The only people I am callingdelusional are the shippers who try to wriggle and rationalize theirway around "Yes, we do now know that it's Ron and Hermione" and stillbelieve the two will make babies in book 7. Right, because JKR waslying to us? HOPING is different from BELIEVING!


Well, well...apparently "somehow" H/Hr won a poll. Some might think what an effing big deal after all it is anyway H/G and R/Hr. Emerson obviously disagress it is a big deal afterall he told us years already H/Hr won't happen. Ehh I mean JKR, I always get confused there. See Scholastic posted that H/Hr won the poll without any comment, I bet that was another bad choice from them or Emerson didn't need to remind us that H/Hr WON'T HAPPEN, GOT IT? IDIOTS *cough*
Best part of it all however is, that's actually THE FUNNY, is the linked article and Emerson's comment to it.

Ask Sherlock Homes. So suffice it to say, if Harry Potter dies in the “Deathly Hallows,” J.K. Rowling and her descendants will lose millions of dollars. Since we already know either Potter or Voldemort will croak, it’s got to be so long, Voldy.

I love the fact that he thinks JKR won't kill Harry...because of the upcoming movies as if she could or should care for MONEY but Emerson...well, he agrees. xD

So sacrificing more of Harry’s pals and heroes would again seem to be just bad business.

How can anybody seriously agree to that argument?

Harry can survive it, but his magical skills cannot. To finally vanquish Voldemort, save Hogwarts and Hermione and Ron, and, in fact the magical world, to say nothing of the J.K. Rowling franchise for decades and generations to come, Harry Potter must give up being a wizard.

The only part what makes at least sense....is to Emerson very unlikely. But then again he thinks Neville/Luna (after a comment on Mugglenet he even let it print in their little nice book) will end up with another, what else can and should you expect from him?

There was something...I might have missed *search* ah yes:

Section: Rumours
Luna and Neville will hook up in HP&THBP

The Luna/Neville shippers are much less vehement and scary than the Harry/Hermione, Ron/Hermione tribes, so I hope I won’t receive too much hate mail for quashing this rumour. I see Neville and Luna as very different kinds of people and while they share a certain isolation within Hogwarts, I don’t think that’s enough to foster true love - friendship, perhaps, although I think that Neville would always find Luna’s wilder flights of fancy alarming.


Yet he still thinks N/L will happen...reminds at something else too:

Note that the question wasn't Who Do You Want to End Up With Whom?, but Who Will End Up With Whom?. There's a difference between wanting something to be true, and believing it is true. There is a word in the English dictionary for holding a belief without evidence, and in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary... I'll give you a hint, it starts with a D.

Even in his own words...if that's not the cake, I don't know what it is. Throw a stone..and you might hit yourself.Let's welcome him to the anonym D's or in other words TOTALLY *PWNED*.
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Bad Dan...worst fan. [31 Jan 2007|02:34pm]

flyingphoenix
[ mood | *sporfle!* ]

There is no end this time in loling about that. Dan Radcliff dared to get ride of his clouthes. The outcry is big...either because of outrage or because fans get off on that *lol*.

 I'm right now laughing my arsh off about </a></b></a>[info]ohnotheydidnt. The comments are so priceless. I just knew this Equus thing would rock some boats but that...heh... linky.

On top of that it's spreading. Todays's Newspaper in Germany: Bild: Harry Potter is now a man

And we get first discussions and reactions on manipulations:
linky 1 and

linky 2 "At least H/Hr or Dan/Emma shippers did it first"

lol and laugh about it too...I saw at least a lot of LOL and ROFL on their own accord rather than: OMG I'm disgusted, I tell you DISGUSTED...bah.

Come on if this whole thing isn't lol worth, I don't know what it is. I could have set my clock after it who will come up with a manipulation first. The first one I saw was *dum dum* Harry/Fleur *pwned*

But let's move on to really batshit, shall we? Yeah, right TLC of course linky Highlights:

I really don't enjoy looking at a naked young man pic. This is soooo embarassing. And disturbing.
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Dear Dan,

We're SOOOO glad to see that you finally shed your good-two-shoes imagejust like we did! Being decent is SOOOOOOO yesterday! Being a rebel iswhere it's at! Let's do lunch sometime!

Love,

Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan


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Brooklyn_Brimstone,

So, Dan was looking for gravitas and serious credibility? If that wasindeed his goal then anyone who can read the comments on this commentboard can tell that he has failed.

90% of the comments are on the lines of "OOO La La", "Hubba Hubba","OMIGOSH I need a cold shower", "Drool" not to mention the ever popular"Squee!"

Serious credibility and gravitas does NOT EQUAL nudity. There are otherroles he could have chosen that would have been different from HarryPotter and established him as a serious actor that have nothing to dowith posing naked.

He chose a project that would purposely shock and/or titilate his fanbase. And he clearly succeeded. Kudos to him on that one. Britney &Lindsay WERE congratulating him afterall.

Oh, and are you also going to claim that his appearance on Extras wasalso chosen to increase his serious credibilty and gravitas? Because,you know, nothing says serious like spewing 4 letter words and playingwith condoms.


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The girl is naked too. You know in movie 7, that girl is gonna be Ginny

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dirty...dirty...dirty...but i like it! Wish we had pics of Tom Felton,ah well. I was kinda shocked when i saw it, and that's been goin'through my head ALL MORNING! This was me all through my morningclasses...."First Period - Dan is so hot, and so nude....Second Period- Dan, is so hot, and so nude....Third period - I have to tell this tomy friends at lunch about Dan being so hot, and so nude....FourthPeriod - The girl on Dan's back 'Jill'...Ginny will be on Harry's backin movie 7....fifth period at lunch - OH MY GOD! Did you see thosesteamy pictures of Daniel Radcliffe?! Aaaaah!....and so on. That was myday at school. I swear...yesterday when i saw those pics i wasshaking.....Now why do I have a feeling that movie 7 is gonna be ratedR?! LoL....Yeah I'm a crazy 7th grader.....But that's been on my mindall day!

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"The man in the jean photos looks like a man who can destroy Voldemortto me. Up until now I had wondered if Daniel was going to be powerfulenough to pull it off. With the amount of strength and heat emanatingfrom these photos it doesn't look like it is going to be a problem."

AMEN. That young man in those pics is not only drop dead gorgeous, hehas danger written all over him. If Dan can project deep intensity ofemotion in just a photoshoot, what would the real stage performance belike?


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"But calling this nudity trash, or immoral, is also wrong in our eyes;it looks like it's going to be a very classy production, and honoringit as such is important". Posted by melissa

It might be immoral in your eyes or others but it is in some otherpeoples. People have different values. As to my view on this wholething. To be a good actor, you have to be convincing in pretty muchevery role you play. Dad is doing this to get out of the harry potterlabel, and that is stupid. Why do movies like harry potter if you don'twant it to be known for it. Anyways that is my view. Don't attack me.


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Melissa,

To quote Bruce Willis's character from Moonlighting: "Oh yeah, I forgotthere's a difference between nudes and nakes - nakes have staples inthem."

And everyone carries on and on and on about how the production isn'teven ABOUT nudity, nudity has NOTHING to do with it, and yet everysingle promotional picture & poster has someone nude or close to it.

Brooklyn_Brimstone - I never said I HATED Dan. I'm very sorry that hehas turned into the "Oh My Gosh I am so stereoptyped into the nerdygoody-goody role, what can I do to shock people."

I was really hoping that being a movie star away from the Hollywoodscene that he could avoid that. I was wrong, and I'm sad, that's all.


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"Newsflash to parents: what your children watch, read and do is yourresponsibility not Dan's or Jo's and you don't get to tell other peoplewhat to write or read or what to act in."

Half right. This is harry potter website, parents let their childrenvisit "harry potter" websites like this one, mugglenet, hpana etc. Yeta child visiting these sites are exposed to these naked pictures. Howcan you blame parents for that. This is supposed to be a save and funwebsite for children to come and satisfy their hp needs. Parents wouldhave to make the choice to not let their children come to leaky ormugglenet anymore if they don't want them to see these pictures. Isthat fair to the kids or the parents? They didn't have to put thepictures on these sites. Anyone who wanted to see it could have gone toDan's site or equus'site. That is not telling people what to write orlook or do. These sites should have been responsible knowing that thereare children that come to their sites.


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Dont't forget MuggleNet...it's all there.
But that aside isn't it always amazing to learn: Sex is bad but murder is okay?
Before I close that: Please, please turn of light if your children change...they could see themselves naked and feel all dirty about that too.

I love this fandom and if it is just for the LOL

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Mod-Note on recent entries [05 Jan 2007|12:26pm]

flyingphoenix
Right, I asked about that in the Support how I should act about that a member or a former member is posting entries though they deleted their journal. Seems like people think it is impossible to do so....
Never you mind I don't want something like that on this community. If you delete your journal yet continue to post entries and boast about that you used "a known JF trick" to do that without to undelete your journal then you're clearly doing something against one of my rules. This said vanceone has no longer posting access to this community.

Either you undelete your journal and post or you delete it and can't post. You'll get posting access if I see your journal is no longer deleted.

~FlyingPhoenix, who is not a Wanker, R/Hr, H/G shipper in disguise....
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*Is Amused* [03 Jan 2007|10:46am]
vanceone
[ mood | Amused ]

You know, I just have to laugh, I really do. For a long time, I have caught a ton of grief over my "F_W and it's associates are just plain OBHWF defenders" meme. Well, to fandom wanks credit, they banished most OBWHF defense/Harmonian attack stuff to the Cornfield, where the stench of "we are nothing but OBHWF" grew stronger. Of course, I've had strenuous denials of that whenever I've made the claim--just repeated "we are only here for teh WANK!" stuff.

In fact, this is the stated purpose of the cornfield:


You know the feeling. After ten million repetitions of the same old arguments 'Harry and Hermione forever!' 'JKR CAUSES FORCED CHINESE ABORTIONS' you just want to scream. But you can't stop reading them.

This is the comm for you. All Harmony wank, all the time.

PLEASE NOTE:

This is not an agenda comm[Emphasis Vanceone]. We really couldn't care less if you believe that Harry and Hermione are doing the horizontal tango between the bookshelves or Harry and Ginny are going to marry and have a mess of tiny little babies, or whatever. The only real purpose of this comm is for the mockery.

Also: While this comm will accept wanking of any and all Harry Potter ships, the majority of the posts will be H/Hr focused, if only because H/Hr wank is banned from F_W, and thus HAS to go here, while any other shipping wank can go to F_W if the poster wants it to.


So, just recently, the Cornfield attacked a poster called Creamtea, she who made a fairly famous Love Potion theory. Link to the Cornfield thread. One minor problem--Creamtea is not and never has been a H/Hr shipper. No, as far as I know, she attacks H/Hr too, but is primarily a Ginny/Draco shipper. They aren't wanking her G/D stuff, though, just that she dared to slight the sacred Ginny. I.E, this really shouldn't be on the Cornfield, except it has something about Ginny that doesn't promote Ginny's greatness and worth. That makes Creamtea fair game for the OBHWF defense league.

For those who imagine it's "only about the wank" over there, explain to me how it could actually be more pro-OBWHF? They have comments (lots of them, no less) attempting (badly, I might add) canon rebuttals, tons of name calling, the place reads like a who's who of prominent OBHWF shippers (I don't know if I even saw a poster who ISN'T OBHWF--plus tons of OBHWF anonymice; what, do they send out the call? Come, Ginny is under attack! We must SWARM THE EVIL LYING BASTARDS!!!)... I'm just curious as to how anyone can claim that the Cornfield hasn't turned into the OBWHF defense league, dedicated to the promotion and rehabilitation of Ron and Ginny, plus tearing down anyone who doesn't follow the OBWHF view of canon?

Look at this comment: "I propose anyone who can't shut up about how OMG MEEEN and SLUTTY and MANIPULATIVE and EVIL Ginny is automatically loses by violation of Snacky's Law." This is rich--now, people who actually think Ginny is not Saint Ginny is violating Snacky's Law? LOL--My, how interesting. If you aren't OBWHF, you are inherently wanky? (and I love how when you actually examine Snacky's law, if moaning and griping about Ginny violates that, then the poster is admitting that Ginny is the mean girl from high school.... *snerk*)

Really, it's rather funny--and to think lots of the posters there have had the audacity to complain about our Holes thread at HF. Why not just change the Cornfield's purpose? "We only mock anything which goes against the holy canon of OBHWF!" (Is also amused at how all the sympathy for Kinsfire changed once people remembered he wrote an alleged H/Hr fic--I particularly liked "okay, well, the rape comment was only slightly overboard, BUT HE DESEVED ALL THE ABUSE!!!!!" stuff. Meanwhile, the "Chamber of secrets is Ginny's womb and has harry's snake sliding through her" is resolutely unexplored... :grins: Oh, and to head this off--I've never read Kinsfire's fic, and from the descriptions, I wouldn't like it. But it's amazing how it's only H/Hr fics that are badfics they mock and namecall the author--as if R/Hr and H/G cannot be badfic. )

I didn't really have a point with this comment, I just thought it was funny how much the cornfield has established itself as so pro-OBHWF, despite the protestations that they aren't an agenda comm. I'm not really sure I can see how it ISN'T an agenda comm, actually. They may want to remove that line from their "about page."
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Snape AK's CoS...or at least he tries [27 Oct 2006|03:52pm]

flyingphoenix
[ mood | *sporfle!* ]

I didn't think I would make an entry on this journal that soon again but...this what I read was rather mind exploding.

You see I tried to visit CoS-Forums and guess what? They are on holidays. Now really that's the first time I read that without a special reason behind it. WRONG!

I was curious and tried a look on their CoS-LJ and guess what? It is just as dead as this journal. So I looked at an Admin LJ and guess? I found a long entry from October 16th this year. It left me cross eyed. Apparently while I stopped to look at their HP-Forums Snape fans and Anti-Snape fans started a war...a war similar to the "Oh so famous Harmony boycot" just too bad here are Mods too involved.

You see while they weren't so much of shippers they have a high interest in Snape. It is pretty much fitting too, no? So fitting to the Snape-Wank.

For short CoS is on hiatus because of Snape...link from Admin post, More about Snape War, Entry by an ex-Mod, Entry by a Mod, We're slowly there where the wank started...uhuhu, There is another link...look, OMG it is a Ship wank....shit...damn it is all about Snape/Lily O_o....I make it easy...take a look at every entry in year 2006 and compare it with the Admins entry

ETA: Some more link sponsored by Narcissam: I'm leaving CoS and HPANA because they suck

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[16 Aug 2006|03:10pm]
vanceone
I see that the real life overflow from Bad_Penny has reached to the level of death threats. You know, I'm not that surprised, really. Yes, I have no idea whether the person or people making threats was a poster at Bad_penny or not. However, it is safe to assume they WOULDN'T have been made had not Bad_Penny decided to drag all of this stuff up and satisfy some peoples grudges. When the wank spills over like this, it's time to stop attacking, people.

The levels of hatred and bitterness on display at B_P is mindboggling. Even now, after the reports of the death threats, people are starting to justify and explain it away and basically say that they aren't real. I.E. that there is a huge conspiracy designed to defraud everyone. What will it take, a murder, before you people realize you are going too far to encourage bitterness and mockery? It's been rather chilling to read how, as time has passed since the announcement of the actual existance of the death threats, the posts at B_P have gone from "That's horrible and going too far" to "I think they are all fake, and are just a play for sympathy." What the heck people--the poor person has lost a relative, had threats made against her, and all in all been rather mercilessly attacked at a time when she wasn't around to respond. And now, she DESERVES all of this? I've even seen suggestions of Msscribe making the threats. I've seen nothing about how B_P inflamed the situation in the beginning. And they did--they most certainly did.

Now look--I don't defend or condone plagarism. But you know what? I am an organizer of HarmonyCon, and if there's one group in fandom that's vilified even anywhere near as much as the current people listed at B_P, it's Harmonians. This death threat or threats being confirmed suddenly makes MY job harder (and all other HP cons, for that matter), because now I know there are wackos out there who are taking fandom stuff way too far. I've been laughed and mocked for being concerned about safety there. Well, unless things change in a hurry in this fandom, I don't see how I can ignore it--especially after this. Nor can any other HP-Con. Whatever vile justifications were used to make these threats will just as surely justify things against Harmonians, or whatever other group becomes the next target (maybe upset Snape fen of some kind after book 7?).

The wank comms have got to stop inciting hatred against groups in the HP fandom. It is becoming too easy to spill over offline and into RL. The wank comms are not an excuse for people to air their grievances. Fandom was supposed to be funny, right? The motto of F_W? Not "how can I smear my enemy today, and get mad props for it!"


ETA: Apparently, the person who "independantly" confirmed the death threats is now backing off that confirmation. So who knows what is going on....

In any case, my points about the wank comms inciting and stirring up chaos, I think, are still valid. As is the need for more security planning. However, I don't really know what is going on with regards to the death threats, and neither does anyone else, I suspect.

Just read the front page of Bad_Penny for links and stuff.
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On Flying*pwned*Phoenix [15 Aug 2006|09:11pm]

flyingphoenix
[ mood | *drool* ]

In my curiousity I asked someone more objective if this asked for banning. It turned out they weren't that much more objective considered they said: No.

rhiannonmr (rhiannonmr) replied to your JF comment in which you said:

Plagiarsm or not I think people go way too far with e-mailing the staff of Phoenix Rising.

Considered despite it all they did stuff for HP-Fandom as well.


Their reply was:

I
disagree. Whatever they've done FOR fandom is overshadowed by what
they've done TO fandom. I can name people who DO for fandom, one of
them is Steve Vander Ark(hope I got that one right, I always foul it
up). He created the HPLexicon. He's given alot to fandom right there.
Another is Melissa at TLC, the ladies who founded SugarQuill, Metamuse
who runs SycophantHex and alot of other archive owners who run those
archives not for glory or fame but for the joy of having a place for
fanficcers to post fic. These folks founded FA so they could post their
plagiarised stuff and that it became good was DESPITE them, not BECAUSE
of them. They didn't do it for fandom, they did it for themselves.
There is a difference IMHO.
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What was my point? This entry about how Phoenix Rising reacted shouldn't have been posted in the first place because that is encouraging. Anyway a simple reasonable STOP would have worked on me too...you know.
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[13 Aug 2006|09:13am]
vanceone
I see that Bad_penny appears to be in the process of successfully getting a couple of people pretty much run out of town tarred and feathered.

I'd feel a heck of a lot better about it all, if it weren't for the fact that 1) it seems really, really vindictive over there (I mean, why? Almost all of the commentators have not suffered anything personal from this) 2)it is really frightening the lengths people are going (trying to take it beyond fandom and into real life--calling the cops, emailing publishers, and now causing havoc at a convention). 3) if it wasn't a whole bunch of OBHWF shippers attacking H/Hr shippers. 4) Seeing as I myself have been attacked by a few of these people and I KNOW how they have distorted things about me, I can't help but be suspicious of how much they may be distorting this.

None of this is to say that I'm defending Cassie, or AngieJ or msscribe; I'm not. If they plagarized, and were sockpuppets, well, too bad for them. But witch hunts are not pretty, and I'm honestly wondering what, exactly, they could say if they were innocent? Is accusation proof over there?

Second, this has a huge stench of underlying grudge shipwank. Why have all these OBHWF people searched so deeply in H/Hr circles and fanfics to find all this stuff? The impression bad_penny is leaving is that only H/Hr shippers are the bad apples in fandom, and that is completely not the case. I would not be nearly as suspicious if they actually focused on someone other than H/Hr people. It's rather frightening how much time these OBHWF people have put in looking for faults in H/Hr types. I mean, say some well known R/Hr fanfic had plagarism in it--who would know? Would Bad_penny report it? And is anyone looking? They seem intimately familiar with H/Hr types, but are they inspecting their own?

This ultimately goes back to the whole question of why is it always the H/Hr people on F_W or other wank sites? I really don't think H/Hr is any wankier than other fangroups--there's nothing special about Harmony that makes it inherently wankier. So why are there numerous people who focus only on finding H/Hr stuff? Realistically, there are what, 10 regular H/hr shippers who post on JournalFen with any sense of regularity. Why is there so many more OBHWF people here, and why do they all focus on H/Hr? This isn't an attempt to complain, but I'm just asking. Probability says that in a much larger group of people, there would be more wank. Why isn't it reported? What is the obsession with bringing down H/Hr people? Calling police agencies, scouring H/Hr fansites for wanky things, writing hundred page novels just to expose people--and all of it targeted at one fangroup?

And if it isn't targeted at H/Hr shippers, then when will we see something mocked that isn't aimed at one?

I'm just wondering, that's all. I really am not defending any of the people featured on Bad_penny; I'm just noticing yet another trend of "it's all those insane H/Hr people" and I just don't think that only H/Hr shippers are the insane ones. With each new Bad_penny report, I question more and more whether that comm's purpose is dedicated to focusing only on H/Hr people, that's all. For instance, Major_Dallas at one point was accused of plagarizing an essay; I have no idea whether he did or not, but I saw the accusation. It never made it on F_W; it was quickly hushed up, and I don't know how it was resolved. It's very well possible he didn't and that was all solved satisfactorily, and he never plagarized at all. I did see the accusation, however. I have to believe there are other episodes like that scattered throughout fandom, not just H/Hr types. Will any of them be featured there? Or will it only be there if H/Hr people bring it--because OBHWF'ers won't?
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More crazy...if possible. [13 Aug 2006|12:51am]

flyingphoenix
Some wankers are confused about what Harmonians and Pumpkin pier's are though [info]estrella explained it perfectly and even easily something I fail to do:

Well, basically PP were H/Hr shippers from Fiction Alley Park and Harmony were H/Hr shippers from CoS forums. The thing is that FA is more fanfic centered than CoS forums, so H/Hr shippers from the former had more fanfiction people among than the latters. Also Harmony is a more recent name than PP. Also later we (the CoS forum group) had differences with Portkey because they censored some essays from one memeber and so we created our own forum

That's the deal but problem Nr. 1 is that I posted on FAP and CoS. Before I learned to know people like Mad Eyed Mike, Perdita, Turambar, Sirius, Hawk, Grace, lleyki, Max and Mars I got into the FAP crew.

I saw once in a while Msscribe on Portkey later on LJ in action then I saw Ryoko Blue enter spectaculary enter the chat room. Ebony argueing on DT with Angua. Then Kia, Athena, RedXIII, Falcon, Sarmi etc.

For short I had already a little idea how serious some people took this fandom. They made it to some kind of fame game. It was very clear to me if you were new and unknown to them it was difficult to get much further. Esp if you prefered to talk about canon and what will be rather than to write fanfics and to become eventually as famous like...Msscribe?

FAP was and still is IMO a very unfriendly place to newbies. Its like someone hits you with an anvil that you are in fact nothing but a lousy bit of newbie.

CoS Forum was there differently and after that I still prefer Harmonians rather than Pumpkin Pie. Because here I posted as newbie who read that H/Hr file and felt I have nothing at all to add. But this guys : Mad Eyed Mike, Perdita, Turambar, Sirius, Hawk, Grace, lleyki, Max and Mars said that they were newbies as well, that their opinion wasn't at all the end of all opinions but they welcomed any new input. Anything what made the discussion more interesting.

That was new for me and in fact I never saw such an attitude by anybody in this fandom again. Esp. not after the ship wars became more heated. It was a kind of everything goes whats possible and I loved that.

For me it always was fun though most of the time a sadistic kind of fun to discuss ships. There was never some kind of business about that even if it became totally crazy and heated it still wasn't a contest who is more known, who is a BNF in this fandom.

That's probably a reason why I cring and want to disagree as much as I can whenever someone claims Harmonians are teh batshit of H/Hr shippers or are so melitant because that's bullshit. Arguing canon or thinking H/Hr is a possibility in canon is to me far less crazy, insane than to be powerhungry in an online fandom, to be a BNF or a bestfriend of a BNF and throw everything overboard for that goal.

What Harmonians did or what was done in the name of HMS Harmony isn't at all that unusual for fans.
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Plagiarsm in FanFiction bad? [10 Aug 2006|10:50pm]

flyingphoenix
[ mood | *thud* ]

I never thought I would make an entry like this in this community but....what the hell.

You probably know that on [info]bad_penny the Cassie Claire Plagiarsm story was posted and everyone including myself thinks or thought having some plagiarsm in a fic is a bad, bad thing. Apparently in real life it isn't. After this link it doesn't matter how one write a FanFicton but that somebody writes a FanFiction in the first place.

It seems to me this whole plagiarsm issue in fanfiction is more of a fandom moral rather than one what is frowned at in real life considered that fanfictions are anyway not that well seen. After that I have to assume that my take on the Cassie Claire Plagiarsm story was a wrong one. This of course implies as well that [info]bad_penny and [info]fandom_wank were wrong too *dang*.

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Ode to Harmony - Part II [07 Aug 2006|02:32pm]

flyingphoenix
[ mood | Bitter ]

This entry isn't like I wanted it to be considered a lot of things I left out. But I hope it touch a few questions. The problem with this is that a timeline is missing of things what happened in the whole fandom which affected indirectly the story of HMS Harmony as well at least that's how it appears to me now.

Daughter of Elysium,
We enter, fire-imbibed,
Heavenly, thy sanctuary
Thy magic powers re-unite
What custom's sword has divided

We're at the beginning of a hidden story, which is known partly but nevertheless only completely by a minority even among veterans of the HMS Harmony. For the young shippers of the HMS Harmony there didn't exist any clouds on their sky contrary they looked into a cloudless future. As long as they stood united there would be no real danger to their ship. In year 2003 any new canon was far, far away. But they had no idea what the future had in store for them, no idea that on this cloudless sky a dark cloud was hidden from sight.

Soon after OotP was published and the first months of hot debating were over the crew realised that sailing non-stop on the wide open ocean of the Fandom wasn't just rough but an impossible task to keep up. They needed a save haven, a harbour for their little ship. Among the first ideas was to built a new harbour all alone but a generous Major offered them a place in his own harbour and enough wood to built a dock.

This dock should become known as Symbolic Flight Home of HMS Harmony at Portkey. Due this period of time the whole crew started to visit Portkey more often, they started to post their essays on the H/Hr Forums. Later most essays found their way in the Pumpkin Pie's Army a forum they proudly linked to in their Signature's on CoS-Forums. It became more and more known in fandom where Harmonians could be found in fact in later years nobody would make a distinct different anymore between H/Hr shippers and Harmonians on Portkey. They became one slowly but surely.

The HMS Harmony became very popular and H/Hr shippers easily started to identify with that name though this happened doubtless due the present of Harmonians, Symbolic Flight and OotP a book that seemed to back up the idea of H/Hr. It was just a question of time that a Harmonian became a Moderator of Portkey as well.

February 2004  Phoenix got a message that she was from now on part of the Portkey Staff. It was probably one of the most unlikely members of the HMS Harmony who could have been chosen in the first place. Nevertheless with a lot of cheers and faith from her shipmates she moved into the Mod-Office

Portkey became more and more popular and was seen as true home of H/Hr shippers but this also meant this site became a magnet for opposite shippers. Since the day as HMS Harmony was founded it was known to post essays, opinions people either hated or loved. It wasn't really a surprise that two members reported one of the most disliked essays among opposite shippers.

"I Feel Sorry For JKR Because..." was taken down by Portkey after it was up for several months without any complains. It turned out this two members that complained were one person who even posted an entry in their LiveJournal stating how they got the essay down and back at the H/Hr shippers. For the first time the crew of HMS Harmony got an idea that Portkey was despite everything not a H/Hr site only but a site for D/G, J/L and later R/L too which meant that by complains essay would be taken down even if they were posted in the H/Hr section.

The first dark cloud appeared on the sky due this drama because it created the first little rift, first little fights and arguments started among the shippers. Portkey remained for many a sort of harbour while others left this site.  Mike left Portkey. From now on Nia was webmaster of Symbolic Flight what was previously Mike and Sirius job.

Meanwhile another Harmonian, Mirtilla was called to become a Moderator. Due the fast growing of the HMS Harmony and various changes the distinct different didn't really exist anymore. It would be only partly correct to claim that only two Moderators in this Team were members of HMS Harmony but only this two were known on the Love Thread where HMS Harmony was founded a year before. Anazecria and thereader were as well Moderators on Portkey and were as well Harmonians.

Harmonians are H/Hr shippers who argued for H/Hr in canon and thought or think this ship could happen. This also explains the stands of the Moderators at that time as well. Portkey should be a place safe for shippers in their own Shipping Forums without to fear to be harassed and questioned by opposite shippers. For this purpose the Duelling Club became an own Forum where all kind of shippers could met for debates while H/Hr Forum, D/G Forum, J/L Forum and R/L Forum were for exactly this shippers.

This daily moderating created high expectations in the whole staff which lead in time to differences and disagreements among the team. At the same time Mike started his own Forum known as A Mad World where he could express himself without to worry he might offend other shippers like it easily could happen on Portkey.
In meantime the shipwars turned nastier ever since the Debate Thread on FictionAlley got closed even more shippers argued on the Love Thread.

By the end of 2004 Harmonians faced problems which lead later to major decisions what would change the fandom. This years ended with major conflicts among the staff of Portkey.

The next year didn't start well at all the conflicts started to become downright fights. Later Moderators would refer to this period as Portkey's Mod Drama. There was hardly any time in this fandom what was a tougher for the member of this staff. It was due this time when HMS Harmony Forums was created in case this conflict couldn't be solved. For 4 months it remained unused. 

This all happened while on A Mad World the Boycott was planned and took place on the Love Thread. Through the years a lot of anger was bottled esp. after the whole essay debacle on Portkey. Many people who knew about that felt opposite shippers didn't respect that H/Hr shippers had their own sites and in the end got it their way. In a way people felt there wasn't a real H/Hr only site. A Mad World easily filled this role because ranting, bashing was allowed something Harmonians felt they needed at that time.

It wasn't until March-April when the idea to start a Harmony website became a goal. First Moderators started to leave Portkey partly with bitterness but soon many followed as well. One month before HBP got published HMS Harmony Forum became after A Mad World the Harmonian Board. In background there was still heavy disagreements and fights going on with Portkey. HBP and the IoD ended this while it divided this ship like never before it also united it on a different level.

There are probably more years to come in this fandom but none like 2005.     

The account of our misdeeds be destroyed!
Reconciled the entire world!

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Emerson homophobic? [02 Aug 2006|10:20pm]

flyingphoenix
[ mood | *thud* ]

Apparently on the Hp con called Lumos in Las Vegas Emerson made a rather questionable figure on a Slash/Het panel. People say he made fun of Harry/Draco together with a friend till security had to shut them up. Source.

I guess not everbody thinks its funny....so.

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What happened to politeness? [28 Jul 2006|01:59pm]

flyingphoenix
[ mood | *Snarl* ]

Maybe I'm too soft there to expect that in a discussion people actually argue the argumentation rather than telling each other how much of a twit, idiot, insane, stupid, mind handicapped person they are.

What happened to this bit politeness? You know it just let you look bad if you bash people personal. It shows what a little weak creature you must be to go to that level because you fail to reply with a good argument or a witty comment.

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Crazy , just felt like that [26 Jul 2006|09:40pm]

flyingphoenix
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I prefer to be crazy, afterall I can admit I'm crazy and completely out of mind about a----book. Knowledge and adminting does the trick (Mmmmm I remember when, I remember, I remember when I lost my mind) *love that song*
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[24 Jul 2006|10:14am]
vanceone
Over on the HMS STFU, Lerefuge has posted two posts attacking Harmonians. One of them, oddly enough, is a post about "WHY haven't those Harmonian shippers given it up yet? It's been a year! Can't they accept the fact they lost? And Emerson, the dear!"

Needless to say, one wonders if it has occurred to them the sheer hypocrisy of complaining about "not giving it up yet." After all, shouldn't THEY have gotten tired of mocking people by now? Especially people who are "sunk," as they believe? It has, after all, been a year.

In her previous post, about an alleged hypocritical Harmonian who attacked Ron, the comments are hysterical. They demonstrate a stunning level of hypocrisy as well. This is the concept: The Harmonian basically asks, "Who would you prefer: the guy who listens to and cares for you, or the guy who insults and belittles and hurts you?" They mock this, with gems such as theregoesmyguns, "If you had two male friends one with black hair and green eyes who was always flipping his shit at you for things beyond your control and another with red hair and blue eyes who simply let matters slide because he's too passive to get into drama that doesn't need it, which one would you call the motherfucking cops on?"

See, the basic hypocrisy here is that they are bashing the Harmonian view for "not reflecting reality." Indeed, they bash her for not believing that Ron is secretly Hermione's dream man, I suppose. Well, I guess implying that the cops need to be called on Harry isn't stupid?

I just find it hypocritical for them to bash Harmonians for thinking that OUR view is right, while they are so convinced theirs is--when we don't know for sure.

I also find it rather interesting that they STILL cannot leave H/Hr shippers alone. No one, as far as I know, from the H/Hr side has posted anywhere on F_W recently, except here on Harmony wank. No one that I've heard of has posted at MN; the Sugarquill, or any place to "disturb them." We've kept to our sites, etc. But STFU cannot leave us alone. I've asked before what would we have to do for that to happen. The answers of "stop wanking" have been revealed to really mean, "stop shipping H/Hr." Because for many of us, being Fanon only is not what we are about. And we won't go fanon only. Just as STFU won't stop being full of bile, I suppose. Most Harmonians will never think the R/Hr or H/G relationships are acceptable. And it's not because we "lost" the shipping wars, as I'd be more than satisfied with Harry/Luna, and Hermione/Neville, for instance.
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