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I see that Bad_penny appears to be in the process of successfully getting a couple of people pretty much run out of town tarred and feathered.
I'd feel a heck of a lot better about it all, if it weren't for the fact that 1) it seems really, really vindictive over there (I mean, why? Almost all of the commentators have not suffered anything personal from this) 2)it is really frightening the lengths people are going (trying to take it beyond fandom and into real life--calling the cops, emailing publishers, and now causing havoc at a convention). 3) if it wasn't a whole bunch of OBHWF shippers attacking H/Hr shippers. 4) Seeing as I myself have been attacked by a few of these people and I KNOW how they have distorted things about me, I can't help but be suspicious of how much they may be distorting this.
None of this is to say that I'm defending Cassie, or AngieJ or msscribe; I'm not. If they plagarized, and were sockpuppets, well, too bad for them. But witch hunts are not pretty, and I'm honestly wondering what, exactly, they could say if they were innocent? Is accusation proof over there?
Second, this has a huge stench of underlying grudge shipwank. Why have all these OBHWF people searched so deeply in H/Hr circles and fanfics to find all this stuff? The impression bad_penny is leaving is that only H/Hr shippers are the bad apples in fandom, and that is completely not the case. I would not be nearly as suspicious if they actually focused on someone other than H/Hr people. It's rather frightening how much time these OBHWF people have put in looking for faults in H/Hr types. I mean, say some well known R/Hr fanfic had plagarism in it--who would know? Would Bad_penny report it? And is anyone looking? They seem intimately familiar with H/Hr types, but are they inspecting their own?
This ultimately goes back to the whole question of why is it always the H/Hr people on F_W or other wank sites? I really don't think H/Hr is any wankier than other fangroups--there's nothing special about Harmony that makes it inherently wankier. So why are there numerous people who focus only on finding H/Hr stuff? Realistically, there are what, 10 regular H/hr shippers who post on JournalFen with any sense of regularity. Why is there so many more OBHWF people here, and why do they all focus on H/Hr? This isn't an attempt to complain, but I'm just asking. Probability says that in a much larger group of people, there would be more wank. Why isn't it reported? What is the obsession with bringing down H/Hr people? Calling police agencies, scouring H/Hr fansites for wanky things, writing hundred page novels just to expose people--and all of it targeted at one fangroup?
And if it isn't targeted at H/Hr shippers, then when will we see something mocked that isn't aimed at one?
I'm just wondering, that's all. I really am not defending any of the people featured on Bad_penny; I'm just noticing yet another trend of "it's all those insane H/Hr people" and I just don't think that only H/Hr shippers are the insane ones. With each new Bad_penny report, I question more and more whether that comm's purpose is dedicated to focusing only on H/Hr people, that's all. For instance, Major_Dallas at one point was accused of plagarizing an essay; I have no idea whether he did or not, but I saw the accusation. It never made it on F_W; it was quickly hushed up, and I don't know how it was resolved. It's very well possible he didn't and that was all solved satisfactorily, and he never plagarized at all. I did see the accusation, however. I have to believe there are other episodes like that scattered throughout fandom, not just H/Hr types. Will any of them be featured there? Or will it only be there if H/Hr people bring it--because OBHWF'ers won't?
I'd feel a heck of a lot better about it all, if it weren't for the fact that 1) it seems really, really vindictive over there (I mean, why? Almost all of the commentators have not suffered anything personal from this) 2)it is really frightening the lengths people are going (trying to take it beyond fandom and into real life--calling the cops, emailing publishers, and now causing havoc at a convention). 3) if it wasn't a whole bunch of OBHWF shippers attacking H/Hr shippers. 4) Seeing as I myself have been attacked by a few of these people and I KNOW how they have distorted things about me, I can't help but be suspicious of how much they may be distorting this.
None of this is to say that I'm defending Cassie, or AngieJ or msscribe; I'm not. If they plagarized, and were sockpuppets, well, too bad for them. But witch hunts are not pretty, and I'm honestly wondering what, exactly, they could say if they were innocent? Is accusation proof over there?
Second, this has a huge stench of underlying grudge shipwank. Why have all these OBHWF people searched so deeply in H/Hr circles and fanfics to find all this stuff? The impression bad_penny is leaving is that only H/Hr shippers are the bad apples in fandom, and that is completely not the case. I would not be nearly as suspicious if they actually focused on someone other than H/Hr people. It's rather frightening how much time these OBHWF people have put in looking for faults in H/Hr types. I mean, say some well known R/Hr fanfic had plagarism in it--who would know? Would Bad_penny report it? And is anyone looking? They seem intimately familiar with H/Hr types, but are they inspecting their own?
This ultimately goes back to the whole question of why is it always the H/Hr people on F_W or other wank sites? I really don't think H/Hr is any wankier than other fangroups--there's nothing special about Harmony that makes it inherently wankier. So why are there numerous people who focus only on finding H/Hr stuff? Realistically, there are what, 10 regular H/hr shippers who post on JournalFen with any sense of regularity. Why is there so many more OBHWF people here, and why do they all focus on H/Hr? This isn't an attempt to complain, but I'm just asking. Probability says that in a much larger group of people, there would be more wank. Why isn't it reported? What is the obsession with bringing down H/Hr people? Calling police agencies, scouring H/Hr fansites for wanky things, writing hundred page novels just to expose people--and all of it targeted at one fangroup?
And if it isn't targeted at H/Hr shippers, then when will we see something mocked that isn't aimed at one?
I'm just wondering, that's all. I really am not defending any of the people featured on Bad_penny; I'm just noticing yet another trend of "it's all those insane H/Hr people" and I just don't think that only H/Hr shippers are the insane ones. With each new Bad_penny report, I question more and more whether that comm's purpose is dedicated to focusing only on H/Hr people, that's all. For instance, Major_Dallas at one point was accused of plagarizing an essay; I have no idea whether he did or not, but I saw the accusation. It never made it on F_W; it was quickly hushed up, and I don't know how it was resolved. It's very well possible he didn't and that was all solved satisfactorily, and he never plagarized at all. I did see the accusation, however. I have to believe there are other episodes like that scattered throughout fandom, not just H/Hr types. Will any of them be featured there? Or will it only be there if H/Hr people bring it--because OBHWF'ers won't?
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