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seraphtrevs ([info]seraphtrevs) wrote in [info]hp_cornfield,
@ 2006-06-05 22:58:00


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Current mood:Bitchy like a cheerleader

Ginny: Like black people, in a way
This wank was picked up from the sailor [info]lerefuge on the good ship [info]the_hms_stfu.

Are you all sick of Slutgate yet? I know I'm not. [info]darynthe wrote a rebuttal to all the Ginny defenses, including a psychological profile of the ferbile imagination of Ginny fans.

Highlights:


I’ve seen many comments where Ginny lovers (I saw How to kill a Mockingbird yesterday so saying Ginny-lovers is a very funny pun) have tried to explain away the horrible “crime” of disliking the aforementioned character.


Even if for a few of you, Ginny Weasley, a secondary character in a children series, is a representative of the most important human values in your systems; it doesn’t follow that the rest of the readers will give such an importance to said character.Was it because she is commonplace? Because she is like just any average person? No pretty, no smart (no Hermione for sure!), not rich, nor popular?


So, we come down to the point of the identification /projection issue. This people who didn’t identify with the “instant millionaire fantasy” may have found themselves not invested emotionally in any character, and even in some cases they were feeling more identified with Hermione.


Unfortunately literary and media stereotypes do exist. Cataloguing a character as belonging to a certain stereotype is something rather normal to do in the frame of in-depth analysis.

Bonus features in the comments:


[info]analectic: My theory is that Ginny is the Boba Fett of the HP world. Because pre-OotP, there were only a few tantalising tidbits about her so Ginny could be whatever you wanted her to be. Suddenly in the last two books she gets all this exposure and the preconceptions get fused with all the new info, rather than sparking a new analysis of the character.


[info]darynthe, in a response to a comment: Wow, that explanation you heard that it is Ok to bash real people but fictional characters are off limits is mind boogling. But then again I suppose you can stretch words and logic to fit almost anything you want to. This is why I often think that problems shouldn’t be solved by mere logic, they should be addressed first and foremost by principle, especially the Golden Rule.

ETA: [info]darynthe shows up, and the irony thickens.


I made that pun and attacked my own essay because I don't take myself too seriously, as you seem to do. I put myself in the bad guys place for the lenght of a sentence enclosed in a parethesis. So what?

Apparently, the internet is no longer serious business once you make an ass of yourself.

ETA the Second: [info]darynthe continues to not get it:

This is very ironic from people who makes icons about harmonians mocking them as they were african slaves opressed in North America

Look, we would love to keep the analogies to race issues out of it, but you guys keep bringing it up.



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[info]esclaramonde
2006-06-06 02:21 pm UTC (link)
I must admit some doubt that the Harmonians can read at all, given that they seem to never use actual books as the base for their theories.

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[info]dez_chan
2006-06-06 03:11 pm UTC (link)
Oh they "use" the books, but they have no reading comprehension at all...otherwise they wouldn't make batshit comparisions with Arwen/Aragorn to justify Harry/Hermione. Or continually bring up Jane Austen out of nowhere because their high school English teacher made them read Pride and Prejudice.

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[info]slackerbitch
2006-06-07 04:55 pm UTC (link)
I was going to say they obviously stuck to the Cliffnotes, but Cliffnotes is way more accurate than their take on things. Maybe they look at the back cover text and go from there?

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[info]magic_lilybean
2006-06-07 06:43 pm UTC (link)
Personally, I think that level of batshit can only come from reading the original text and just having no reading comprehension at all. Seriously. You can't get this crap from Cliff Notes *or* the book covers.

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[info]missdaisy
2006-06-06 09:00 pm UTC (link)
You're supposed to read books? I thought they were for propping open doors and putting under uneven table legs!

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