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NM (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} narcissam) wrote in ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/community.gif){kind=small} hp_cornfield,@ 2006-06-11 19:19:00 |
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Teens ship R/Hr. Grown-ups ship H/Hr.
Angelsslave the 'DON'T MOCK MY DOCTORITES!' Danemman psychiatrist is also a fervent H/Hr debater. As are all grown-ups apparently.
On the Emma Watson shipping wars thread, she brings forward some important points. (Open registration to view.)
Angelsslave the 'DON'T MOCK MY DOCTORITES!' Danemman psychiatrist is also a fervent H/Hr debater. As are all grown-ups apparently.
On the Emma Watson shipping wars thread, she brings forward some important points. (Open registration to view.)
It all makes perfect sense, so why are we still getting OBHWF shippers coming in and debating Ron's take on it all?Might this suggest shipping isn't the main point of the books? Just a thought.
It's not about Ron why can't you all see that? - why does all your thoughts centre around Ron? my last recollection was the Hero was called Harry not Ron and its about his journey not his friends?
It's not about Harmony either, it's not about the romantics of the story it is about the alchemic work and where it all fits in?The teens take objection to 'we are not teens with silly ideas about what constitutes as being a relationship!' Angelsslave comes back to clarify her stance. She's not devaluing their immature point of view at all. It's just a fact.
Do you think JK would have done all this research into Alchemy and not show it it in her work?
As Laura and Terri and even myself and Paul have tried timelessly to point out that what we are discovering, uncovering is how JK is actually writing her work. we are not teens with silly ideas about what constitutes as being a relationship! we are more inclined to study the format and research into where JK has got all her information from. And Laura demonstrated quite clearly and presicely the alchemic journey that the main central people take - that Harry and Hermione respresent!
sorry i didn't mean to insult, what i was merely speaking of was that the general consenous was that as young teenagers you are seeing it from your prospective and we as in the older generation are seeing it from ours.prongs 69, born in 1969 and a big fan of angelsslave's concurs:
I am terribly sorry that i offended you
I think personally as you get older, you do actually look at things for a different angle and we are all only expressing our opinions on how we see it is all. nothing more nothing less...that's the way i see it anyways....Another adult fan, madame pomfrey elaborates further on how adults are mature and ship H/Hr:
I also want to defend Gill a little too on her comments on Teens compared to the adults. One thing all of the teens on this board need to realize is that as adults, we have already lived through our teen years and contrary to what most of you might think, most of us remember those years very well. So when we look at things we are able to look at them as we would have as a teen but also as an adult with years of experience to give us new and wiser perspectives on things.Some teens object that there are plenty of teenage H/Hr shippers, and they don't ship because of alchemy. Madame Pomfrey replies:
A great example of this is the whole Ron and HErmione and the bickering. Many times I have heard many people say that they do this because they like each other and this represents their tension over their attraction etc.
Well yes, many times young teens ( usually younger than 15) will use bickering etc as a way to deal with sexual tension, but mature relationships are not hallmarked by that.
In mature relationships it is the connectivity that appeals. Yes, sometimes opposites will attract, but on some level it is "relating" that becomes important. That is why they are called relationships. Only time and maturity will help those of you who are still fairly young to see that what passes for attraction, crushes etc, at age 14 is not the same for most people at age 24 or 34 or 44.
Like it or not, the teen years are emotional, passionate, impulsive, and sometimes obsessive. Everyone who passes through their teen years at some point will look back and be grateful that
A. they don't have to go through that again
B. they are past some of the silliness
That is not an insult to teens in general, it is just a fact.
But teens are also wonderful and their passion for life, their belief that all things are possible their emotional response to world around them is wonderful if not challenging to behold and it all plays together to create a balance in the world. One of the greatest benefits in being an adult who has children or is around children of any age is that you get to see the world through different perspectives again. Sometimes that fresh view of the world is so helpful.
please read my post in response. I totally agree with your assertions about the difference between the way the teens see things and how we do. I tried to put a spin on that that might help the other younger ones understand. Of course a hallmark of teens is often not being willing to understand anything that disagrees with them. But still we try...angelsslave:
I don't want to alienate any of the teens on this site. I have learned much from many of you and often I do get reminded of how I felt when I was the same age. I like the idea that we are of all different ages on here. It makes it interesting. THose of us with more life experience learn from those with less, but who have different perspectives on things.
Those of you with less experience, can learn from those of us with more, without it seeming like a lecture from your mothers, etc. Sorry about the above entry. I got interrupted and then when I got back it got posted before I was really done with it and It didn't really end up as I had intended.
In my job i deal more intensively with teens that everyone else so trust me i do know how a teen mind works we are no different - just a bit more experience in getting our hearts brokenmadame pomfrey:
I have worked with teens extensively as well, in mental health settings, eating disorder clinics, group, individual and family therapy. I loved it.H/Hr. It's what your parents ship!
I actually think my fave age to work with has been from about 13-20
