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TehRin Ayaya Snuffleupagus the III ([info]tehrin) wrote in [info]hp_cornfield,
@ 2007-04-06 16:57:00


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A Petit Exchange Full of Much Fail
Over on A.R.G.H. at Ye Olde FAP, Lysette is up to her old hyjinks- but this time, it really takes the cake. Her comparison is incredibly unique. Not only that, but this has to be a violation of Godwin's.

Shipping H/G or R/Hr is like shipping the OTP of the Third Riech: Hitler/Eva!


Lysette posts:

I consider both G/H and R/Hr "the Real Deal," just like I consider Eva Bruan/Adolph Hitler "the Real Deal." Eva was crushing on Hitler for YEARS for reasons unknown. Hitler kept her around because, since "The Night of the Long Knives" when the SA was destroyed by the SS (Putting the SS in power.), the rumor going around German High Command was that the reason the SA was destroyed was because their Leader rejected Hitler for a sixteen year old boy. Said Leader was given a gun with a single bullet, and told to do the right thing. Hitler had the SS destroy the SA in revenge for this rejection. This is what got the SS into the position of power they enjoyed for most of the war. While the public stance of the Hitler Regime was Antigay, in actuality the two in charge of the SS and several others in Hitler's staff where either known or rumored to be Gay.

Hitler finally rewarded Eva for her years of devotion with marriage on April 29, 1945, one day before she died of poison, and he died of a single gunshot wound to the back of the head. Even in death, Hitler was a coward. My point is that Ginny's "three sunlit weeks" comes across like Eva's Bunker Wedding, a too little too late boon for their steadfast devotion to an indifferent male. In many ways Ginny is just like Eva, a pretty and convenient Beard for what is really going on. Eva made those not in the know think that Hitler was normal, when in truth he was anything but. Hitler was living on rice and pills, and did not eat in the view of others. Hitler was dying of Parkinson's. Stalin kept the burned up body, and an autopsy was done in the Nineties to confirm the Parkinson's and the actual cause of death. Ginny made Harry appear to be a normal teenage school boy to himself and the rest of the school, and that was no more true than that Hitler was normal. Eva and Ginny were both illusions of normalcy. But that is all they were, illusions.


Anise furthur bolsters Lysette's analogy, by adding more input.

You know, it's really creepy, the way that Hitler LI parallels spring to mind so easily when thinking of H/G (as Lysette noted!) Dating Harry seems to be the kiss of doom (Cho lost Cedric after Harry got interested in her, and you just know Voldy is going to at least try to use Ginny against Harry in some way,) and every woman Hitler ever actually dated (not just Eva but Unity Mitford and poor Geli Raubal come to mind) killed herself.... well, anyway. That's enough of that, and I definitely don't think that Harry is Adolf or Ginny is Eva. She's more Geli, if anything. But isn't it all so romantic?? :P

To which, Lysette responds:

My point is that Hitler would have all these "perfect" home movies made of Him, Eva and whoever was visiting to give the illusion that everything was just picture perfect, normal to the German People, the Allies, that "nasty" Stalin, Japan and the rest. His relationship with Eva was total illusion, but she wanted him so badly that she was willing to take whatever crumbs he would toss her way. Hitler just needed a pretty girl that would play along with the program, and keep her mouth shut.

Harry wanted to convince everyone, particularly himself, that everything in his life was "Just Peachie," and the biggest thing he had to worry about was if his team would win the game on Saturday. It was just as big a load of Rubbish as Hitler's "Perfect Home Movies." Hitler got shot in the back of the head because Hilter did not want to face the fallout from what he had done any more than Jim Jones at Jonestown did, but neither could take their own life, alone. Dumbledore took that little bullet for Harry. So, now, unlike Hitler and Jim Jones who both had someone else kill them to avoid their fates, Harry decided to not take their cowards way out, and face his fate head on. Just not with his "Beard," Ginny Weasley -- the modern Eva Braun. The Ideal Girl of an indifferent guy who doesn't care.


Shine on, you crazy diamonds, shine on.



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[info]notjo
2007-04-06 11:18 pm UTC (link)
.....


That's it, I'm done. I have, in fact, seen it all. I'm gonna curl up in a ball under my blanket and pretend there is no more intarweb. Good-bye, cruel net!

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[info]doomsday
2007-04-06 11:20 pm UTC (link)
My god, she's finally gone off the deep end. Er, deeper end. I kind of want an icon of Hitler!Harry now....

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[info]bookbug87
2007-04-06 11:26 pm UTC (link)
I'm becoming increasingly convinced Lysette is really just a very, very, very persistent troll. If not... o_0

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[info]zaliesiren
2007-04-06 11:35 pm UTC (link)
Gimme a bit. I got nothin' right now.

Wait. This icon comes in more handy than I originally thought it would.

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(no subject) - [info]wanktastic, 2007-04-07 02:51 am UTC
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[info]tunxeh
2007-04-06 11:37 pm UTC (link)
Brings back fond memories of seeing the Boomtown Rats in concert when I was in high school...

Harry never loved Ginny Weasley (oh no?)
No, a thousand people say he did (oh yeah?)
Yeah, she was just some girl who was on the make (Yes, we see)
Boy she wanted to be so big.


Too bad it doesn't quite scan right.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-04-07 10:09 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2007-04-06 11:39 pm UTC (link)
You know, she could've at least had the decency to invoke Godwin's Law in style. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/slaingod/Hitlerlowrider.gif)

slayerofgod @ LJ

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[info]ladylance
2007-04-06 11:40 pm UTC (link)
There are millions of dead concentration camp victims turning in their graves over this one. KILL >(

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-04-08 01:32 am UTC

vomitymcpuke
2007-04-06 11:43 pm UTC (link)
What does Gay have to do with H/G!?

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(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2007-04-07 01:04 am UTC

[info]agent_hyatt
2007-04-06 11:45 pm UTC (link)
You know, it's really creepy, the way that Hitler LI parallels spring to mind so easily when thinking of H/G

It is, but not in the way they think.

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[info]nam_jai
2007-04-06 11:50 pm UTC (link)
For some reason, this bit of punctuation made me laugh most (defense mechanism, I'm sure):

that "nasty" Stalin

Which reads like she thinks Hitler was just misjudging poor Stalin, as if Stalin weren't, you know, kind of a really, really bad guy all on his own.

I do love how these people seem to consider 1) having a crush; and 2) heaven forfend, that crush being reciprocated is teh ebil, rather than 1) absolutely normal; and 2) yay! mutual attraction, how nice! But I guess if someone like Eva had a crush on Hitler, that proves all crushes are evil. Got it.

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[info]mydruthers
2007-04-06 11:52 pm UTC (link)
But why would an eight foot tall Wookiee want to live on Endor?

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(no subject) - verthandi, 2007-04-07 12:15 am UTC

[info]hallidae
2007-04-07 12:06 am UTC (link)
. . . I don't currently own enough vodka for this.

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[info]magnolia_mama
2007-04-07 12:08 am UTC (link)
I thought Lysette was a Harry/Luna shipper. Why then is she describing Ginny as Harry's beard? Am I confusing her with someone else? Or is Luna really a boy in drag?

As for the Harry = Hitler comparison, no matter how she tries to pretty it up: FAIL.

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(no subject) - [info]miss_eponine, 2007-04-07 12:14 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2007-04-07 08:47 am UTC
Holy WTFUXXORZ Batman!
[info]freezer
2007-04-07 12:13 am UTC (link)
So Hitler destroyed the SS's predecessor because their leader threw him over for some pederasty, and Eva Braun was just some faghag hanger on, therefore, it's just like Ginny's relationship with Harry?

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[info]fernwithy
2007-04-07 12:15 am UTC (link)
So, wait, what?

Harry Potter is Hitler?

Wow. Happy Passover, dudes.

Srsly, man... what?

I mean...

Whoa. I got nothing on that. I thought it was Ginny they thought was evil, and they liked Hermione, but they want to pair her with Hitler.

Mm-hmm. That's totally how I'd express affection for a character.

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[info]fernwithy
2007-04-07 12:20 am UTC (link)
steadfast devotion to an indifferent male

Help! I can't resist the batshit!

Ginny's sunlit weeks? Ginny's? WHOSE POINT OF VIEW DO THEY THINK WE WERE IN? Whose, um, "chest" monster got awakened? One can say many, many things about H/G, some not particularly positive, but Harry as indifferent? What? To loosely quote JKR, I think some people need to re-read.

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[info]prettyveela
2007-04-07 12:22 am UTC (link)
THAT'S PANTS!

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[info]livii
2007-04-07 12:23 am UTC (link)
...I'm pretty glad I'm a bit drunk right now.

Shine on, you crazy kid, SHINE ON! You'll make it there yet.

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[info]rowsdower
2007-04-07 12:24 am UTC (link)
Wow. Just wow. You know, it wouldn't be AS bad if it was one lone idiot yelling this stuff while everyone else just ignores her pointedly, it's the fact that SOMEONE ACKNOWLEDGED IT AS VIABLE. Sure, the mod thwapped, but the very first reply to the crazy bitch should've been "EVERYTHING IS WRONG WITH YOU."

I wouldn't touch FAP with a 49-and-a-half foot pole, so I wouldn't know... but does any other VENOM thread ever get anywhere this batshit? Every horror story I've ever heard has been of ARGH and ARGH alone. I'm just so overwhelmed that NONE of her... 'anti-shipmates' I guess... immediately told her to just shut the fuck up.

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[info]esclaramonde
2007-04-07 12:35 am UTC (link)
No. NO. NO.

NO.

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NEEDS MOAR SPARKLIES - [info]seraphtrevs, 2007-04-07 01:40 am UTC
Re: NEEDS MOAR SPARKLIES - [info]lottelita, 2007-04-07 02:55 am UTC
Re: NEEDS MOAR SPARKLIES - [info]sheep, 2007-04-07 08:53 am UTC
Re: NEEDS MOAR SPARKLIES - [info]tofuknight, 2007-04-07 08:49 pm UTC

sockpuppet_rat
2007-04-07 12:35 am UTC (link)
No matter how many times I read it, it just doesn't make any sense.

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[info]saralina25
2007-04-07 01:10 am UTC (link)
That's it. Someone stop the human race, I want to get off.

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[info]limyaael
2007-04-07 01:14 am UTC (link)
So, now, unlike Hitler and Jim Jones who both had someone else kill them to avoid their fates, Harry decided to not take their cowards way out, and face his fate head on.

Damn it, I always missed the part of the books where Harry tortures small furry animals and otherwise acts like a sociopath to justify the hate of the Slytherfen, and now I've missed the parts of the book where he set up concentration camps and led death cults? What the hell kind of inferior product have I been getting? I want what everyone else is reading!

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[info]lerefuge
2007-04-07 01:17 am UTC (link)
To preserve my sanity, I shall only concentrate on her historical facts which brings the following reaction : I... err... I mean where... WHUT???


... so much for protecting my sanity.

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[info]camilla
2007-04-07 01:18 am UTC (link)
YOU. CANNOT. MAKE. THIS. SHIT. UP.

WTF?

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