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BFR ([info]belafarinrod) wrote in [info]i_wank,
@ 2006-06-25 21:12:00


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The lacy homos attack
This is a wank from the Lolitasnap forums. A person of unknown age but with horrible chat speak makes a post called homo-/bisexual lolitas.

i´m just interested about ur opinion about lolitas beeing a couple.
in my eyes love is the most precious thing, and it doesn´t matter who you love as long as u do.
and most of the homo-/bisexual couples i´ve seen arround make a real real cute couple!


That is not the wanky part - thinks I, but Ainglí Deas is of a different opinion.

This is asking for trouble. It has nothing to do with fashion whatsoever.

She does have some foresight!
I'm guessing this is one of those topics where if a conservative person says anything then they get flamed out of the water?

But is still, well, stupid IMNSHO

Quite frankly, I think it's disgusting. [...] And don't try to put me off as a gay hater, it'll only make me laugh at you.

It's wrong, and a bad life choice. It doesn't suit the cuteness and elegance of lolita fashion.

Of course, I can't shut up. Because I love to hear myself speak type, especially when the sound is "fap fap fap" and the result lands on someone I consider a repulsive human being =D

Dancing Moon (moi!)
Yes. Showing off your sexuality is sooo vulgar and disgusting.
That's why I think we should forbid wedding band (that means the people have had sex at least once. Icky!) and public kissing between all genders. Oh, and no children except from test tubes either.


I know. Internet sarcasm = instant failure. Also, pls be excusing the spelling errors. My brain was still asleep I think.

The reply...
Sexuality is perfectly fine, so long as it is normal. Abnormal sexuality is not ok, no matter what you wear. [...] It's off topic because as I said, if you don't agree with the "liberal fascist" view of it all then people are going to be asses, and you have greatly proven my point [...] It's a flame war starter, plain and simple.

I try to make some point about what is OT or not and that the stereotypical lolita should not flame though a prissy nose-wrinkle is acceptable.

I also drag up my political leanings (socialist!) because I'm tired of that particulary brand of american (almost always, but there's prolly exceptions) dumbass who think the world consists of two and a half political views - conservatives/stands for all good and patriotic things, liberals/the hippies and communists/The REDS are attacking omgwtfbbq!!!

Later we get this from Ainglí Deas:
I've had gay friends, it's why I said I'd laugh at people if they tried to pawn me off as an intolerant gay hater.

Ah.

I know I'm not alone but it seems in these "non-conformist" fashions people are very intolerant of conservatives.

Uh. I probably will/have say/said more wanky things. Other people certainly do. But I can't think of what to quote right now. Have at me!

(Gothic lolita? Whuzzat? Wikipedia to the rescue)

*uses Mana icon, yay*


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[info]caribbeanblue
2006-06-25 06:58 pm UTC (link)
Kinda like the "I have black friends so I can't be racist!!11!" defense.

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[info]distractogirl
2006-06-25 07:56 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, the old 'I can't hate them because some of my best friends are gay/black/women/Jewish/pagan/aliens' defence.

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[info]seiberwing
2006-06-25 08:54 pm UTC (link)
Is there a law for that?

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[info]pink_lightning
2006-06-27 06:13 am UTC (link)
In this case, it's the "I don't hate fags, but I don't like it when they hit on me/I just don't think they should have the right to marry/they're child molesters/etc" defense.

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[info]c
2006-06-27 09:39 am UTC (link)
Personally, I want to know who all these mysterious Gay People are, who apparently don't mind being close friends with someone who believes they are "wrong and a bad life choice", "abnormal", "disgusting", etc. There must be an awful lot of them out there, judging by the sheer number of OMG I HAVE GAY FRIENDS defences.

... Though I notice this one says she had gay friends, past tense. Perhaps there's a reason for that.

hi, btw! gostak from lj.

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[info]gal_montag
2006-06-25 07:04 pm UTC (link)
I don't understand why me not wanting to tolerate people being assholes is worse than people not wanting to tolerate people who never did anything to them except exist.

And how having gay friends makes you less a homophobe when you spout off homophobic bullshit.

But I'm a liberal fascist, WTF do I know?

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[info]vigilanterodent
2006-06-25 07:10 pm UTC (link)
What I'd like to know is who are these gay people who keep befriending these twats, providing them with a "Oh but I'm not a homophobe!" argument?

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[info]jabberwockypie
2006-06-25 07:06 pm UTC (link)
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Lolita style named after the victim in a certain book about pedophilia? Nothing abnormal about that, right?

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(no subject) - [info]belafarinrod, 2006-06-25 07:09 pm UTC
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[info]miharu
2006-06-25 07:54 pm UTC (link)
This girl's head would explode if she read the Kamikaze Girls/Shimotsuma Monogatari novel or manga. Because OMG Lolis =/= Lezboz!!

Blargh.

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[info]shaggydogstail
2006-06-25 08:01 pm UTC (link)
Clearly Aingi Deas isn't a gay-hater. I mean, there's nothing remotely homophobic about describing gay people as disgusting, right?

Well, not unless you're using liberal-fascist Earth Logic, of course.

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[info]chaimonkey
2006-06-25 08:14 pm UTC (link)
Admittedly, the post didn't have anywhere to go but either "omg yea!!!" or a "ew no!!!" "your meen!" direction. But still - the gotta catch 'em all defense is LAME.

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[info]xero_sky
2006-06-25 08:33 pm UTC (link)
It's off topic because as I said, if you don't agree with the "liberal fascist" view of it all then people are going to be asses, and you have greatly proven my point.

"I'm a martyr! Look at me, being a martyr! Oh, the aaaagonnnyyy! Look at me, damnit!"

Sorry for the rant, but it needs to be said.

Thank you for your contribution to the Wonderful World of Wank.

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Let's do math!
[info]seiberwing
2006-06-25 08:59 pm UTC (link)
Quite frankly, I think it's disgusting. [...] And don't try to put me off as a gay hater, it'll only make me laugh at you.

plus

It's wrong, and a bad life choice.

equals giant freaking hypocrite who should shut up now. Also, I agree perfectly with Sexuality is perfectly fine, so long as it is normal. But I think that homosexuality is normal.

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[info]smo
2006-06-25 09:06 pm UTC (link)
Liberal... fascist?

Wait, how does that work?

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[info]dandywolves
2006-06-25 09:48 pm UTC (link)
god, what's with all the gay wank recently?

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[info]ashenmote
2006-06-25 09:55 pm UTC (link)
Sexuality is perfectly fine, so long as it is normal. Abnormal sexuality is not ok, no matter what you wear.

So this is how it works? So easy! It always seemed like an awfully complicated matter to me.

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(no subject) - [info]drworm, 2006-06-26 02:49 am UTC

[info]mcity
2006-06-25 10:53 pm UTC (link)
It's wrong, and a bad life choice. It doesn't suit the cuteness and elegance of lolita fashion.
Wait, gay guys can't be cute or elegant? Someone better tell my one gay friend that. Clearly I am not a homophobe because I have one gay friend because I am not a homophobe. See? See?

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[info]souris
2006-06-25 11:27 pm UTC (link)
Aingli Deas again?

Somebody's having a busy month.

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[info]oxydosic
2006-06-26 12:43 am UTC (link)
How in the holy fuck can she claim not to be homophobic and then go on to say that gays are deviant and abnormal? Is she like one of those smarmy religious types that's like, 'i still like you, but you're going to hell'?

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(no subject) - [info]clover_elf_kin, 2006-06-29 02:53 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-06-26 01:24 am UTC (link)
I was there, too! The thing is that she's right, posting that topic was kinda asking for trouble and TOTALLY irrelevant to the fashion. It SHOULDN'T be asking for trouble but we all know bigots exist.

-tropigalia on LJ and LS

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(no subject) - [info]belafarinrod, 2006-06-26 08:48 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-06-26 01:34 am UTC (link)
BTW, I also think the boyfriend/girlfriend pictures are often gross. Many of them are the girl dressed cutely in lolita and her boyfriend, who is often way bigger and older, forced into some crude golfing outfit that's being referred to as ouji.

And looking at his girlfriend pervily.

It kinda enforces the negative connotations built in with the name of the fashion.


-tropigalia

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(no subject) - [info]belafarinrod, 2006-06-26 08:46 am UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2006-06-26 10:38 am UTC (link)
I'm more confused by the fact this "conservative" has a Family Guy icon than anything else. Isn't that a bit like a Green Party leader driving a humvee?

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-27 06:36 am UTC (link)
I've had gay friends, it's why I said I'd laugh at people if they tried to pawn me off as an intolerant gay hater.

Oh, darling, we wish we could pawn you off, but all the pawnstores say there's no demand for intolerant gay haters anymore. :(

-- Abbymouse

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(no subject) - [info]chikane, 2006-07-11 10:25 am UTC

[info]komorebi
2006-06-28 12:31 am UTC (link)
Throw 'em a guy in drag, who used to whip girls in dominatrix gear onstage and pretend to fellate his fellow bandmates, and they don't bat a glued-on eyelash. But mention Teh Ghey...

I'm not equating cross-dressing with homosexuality, here, just stunned at the... the... what the fuck?

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[info]suzycat
2006-07-19 11:23 am UTC (link)
Abnormal sexuality is not ok, no matter what you wear.

*choke*

THat is the best stupid comment EVER!

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