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Brenna, the Anti-Invictus ([info]brennalarose) wrote in [info]i_wank,
@ 2007-12-26 11:27:00


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Knotty wanka!
So, due to my wedding in three years, I joined "The Knot". It's a great website and my fiance and I have gotten a lot of good advice about weddings and budgeting and how not to kill each other on the big day.

We wanted a Browncoat wedding, to embrace our love of Firefly, my family's Asian influences (Granddaddy worked in the Foreign Service) and our love of weird tech. Now, I'm thinking, "I'm Captain of my own Firefly-class! I am only a pretty, pretty princess on the outside!" So, I wanted to try a bit of spiff I found in a book on handfastings: a mock duel.

Here's my post to "The Knot" forums.

My fiance and I are a couple of nerds. He's Wiccan, I'm Oddball Christian, so I picked up a book on handfastings that had tips on Interfaith marriages. While flipping through, I came across the concept of mock abductions and duels. Seeing as our wedding is as much a theatrical production as it is a ceremony of commitment, I was thinking of having a mock duel between the bridal party and the groom's party, in disguise as the villains of our favorite TV series. There will be a warning in the programs and we certainly won't use live steel (no firearms, but that goes without saying). Yet, a few problems have cropped up.

1) My dress will most likely have a hoopskirt/crinoline. I can work around the corset.
2) Fight Choreography could get tricky.
3) Where do we hide the weapons?

Any ideas? Or should I save the duel for the reception and wear a pant suit?


At first, I get a intrigued response. But then, this shows up.

Skip it.

This is a wedding, not some kind of funky theatrical production. It's also a lot of work.


I disagree, having been involved in my mother's Sci-Fi convention wedding and my best friend's perfectly mundane nuptuals. Others point out that "It's her wedding, she should do as she pleases". Others insist it's crazy and in poor taste.

I respond:

I think that, while my family might be surprised, they understand that my fiance and I are oddballs with our own interests. This is symbolic of the fact that neither of us is going to be submitting to anyone but will compromise and be partners and equals, rather than macho man and damsel in distress.

Does this sound more acceptable: the groom comes in, masked and disguised as a bad guy from the show (blue gloves and all, for those who get the reference. I process in like a good girl, but--hey!--who's this schmuck at the altar? I demand to know who he is and where's my boy, three times for symbolic sake. Finally, he removes his gloves and mask, and puts on his Browncoat and the ceremony proceeds as planned.

Is that better?


The next response?

No.

Admittedly this might not be wank. If it doesn't belong, delete it by all means.

Here's a link to the whole dog-and-pony show.
http://talk.theknot.com/boards/main_frame.aspx?page=ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=10

EDIT: Hi! WOW. Thanks for all the input. I was honestly expecting more "LOLZ Stupid Wanka!".

To those who think I'm looking for validation: I apologize. If I had been seeking validation, I wouldn't have come here. I came here to laugh at myself for going to a fairly mainstream place with my fandom schtick and to share the joke. Thanks for laughing. You were laughing, right? Would a pie to my face have helped at all?

To those with advice: Thank you. I'm taking copious notes. The reason I'm waiting three years is a) after a six-year engagement, starting my senior year, three more won't kill us and b) it gives us time to save up, plan and do this right.



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[info]rikiki
2007-12-27 05:43 pm UTC (link)
Wank aside, I think either one sounds awesome. If you can work out the logistics of the duel, that would be something people would remember forever, and you'd have an interesting wedding story for any kids you may have or any nieces/nephews you may spoil rotten.

You could combine the two, too. :D Have the duel start because he refuses to reveal who he is at first.

And screw those who say you shouldn't do it. It's y'all's party, have a mock duel if you want to. :D Boobies for you for having such an awesome idea.

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[info]queencallipygos
2007-12-27 05:48 pm UTC (link)
It is your wedding, and you can do whatever the hell you want.

You'll get spoilsports like that posting in a public forum, but this is the way of the world.

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(no subject) - [info]schmoo999, 2007-12-27 07:02 pm UTC

[info]sisterelwood
2007-12-27 05:49 pm UTC (link)
Hey, now that's a wedding I could get on board for. Sign me up for three years from now.

Oh. Wank. Right. Umm, screw them- this sounds awesome.

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[info]miharu
2007-12-27 05:56 pm UTC (link)
All things aside, weddings are theatrical productions. I sure as fuck wouldn't wear my wedding dress to the grocery store...

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(no subject) - [info]dana, 2007-12-27 09:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ms_treesap, 2007-12-27 10:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rhrsoulmates, 2007-12-28 01:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pantyless_angel, 2007-12-28 01:39 am UTC

[info]soupspooks
2007-12-27 05:59 pm UTC (link)
Your idea sounds AWESOME.

...and I feel miharu is right, weddings are PUT ON. They're special, once-in-a-lifetime events (hopefully?).

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[info]gaminette
2007-12-27 06:08 pm UTC (link)
Adding my tiny voice to the "what an awesome idea!!" chorus. ^_^

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[info]rekall
2007-12-27 06:09 pm UTC (link)
That is the most awesome idea for a wedding I've ever heard! I really hope you pull of the duel!

Even a "traditional" wedding is a theatrical production. Anyone who's ever been to one can tell you that.

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(no subject) - [info]altoidsaddict, 2007-12-27 06:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rekall, 2007-12-27 06:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]altoidsaddict, 2007-12-27 09:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]blackjackrocket, 2007-12-28 12:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosalita, 2007-12-28 06:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosalita, 2007-12-28 06:09 pm UTC

[info]altoidsaddict
2007-12-27 06:16 pm UTC (link)
The vocal minority at the Knot are INSANE and always have been. I think you might have better luck asking on a stage combat or Renaissance fair forum, they're used to appreciating the oddball.

I registered on the Knot in planning my wedding, and we came in for some small fraction of their minimum projected budget - why I need extra flowers when the reception is in a botanical garden and the ceremony's in another lush garden, I'll never know. I'm convinced it exists to produce lavish, cookie-cutter weddings (love the one whose idea of an eccentric wedding is one that's on the beach, like she gets her planning tips from Cosmo) and bolster the wedding industry by causing panic and stress in brides who believe everything has to go perfectly right on their Special Day. The most fun parts of my wedding were the bloopers and weird stuff that happened.

Basically, there are two different kinds of crazy - at least your wedding will be the fun kind.

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(no subject) - [info]wtf, 2007-12-27 06:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]julian_black, 2007-12-27 07:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ealusaid, 2007-12-27 08:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]julian_black, 2007-12-27 08:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ealusaid, 2007-12-27 08:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ealusaid, 2007-12-27 08:38 pm UTC

[info]meammouse
2007-12-27 06:41 pm UTC (link)
What a stiffer. That sounds like the best wedding ever.

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[info]priestesspadfoo
2007-12-27 07:08 pm UTC (link)
I think your wedding idea sounds fun and I'm kind of wishing I knew you so I could see it!

As for the other people on that board, eh. There are some folks who are always going to think anything fandom-related is childish and/or stupid. Come to think of it, some folks think anything out of the ordinary is childish and/or stupid. Have your fun and enjoy yourself. Then post pictures. :D

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[info]sithwitch13
2007-12-27 07:44 pm UTC (link)
Pfft. Fuck 'em. Your idea sounds awesome.

I had some friends that met through kendo and got married, so they had a sparring match at their reception.

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(no subject) - [info]come_love_sleep, 2007-12-29 01:53 am UTC

[info]exdee
2007-12-27 07:56 pm UTC (link)
Dude, you should totally hide it in a parasol. It would have to be modified, I imagine, smaller than most larping swords and you'd probably want a prettified hilt, but it would be cool.

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(no subject) - [info]exdee, 2007-12-27 07:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2007-12-27 08:11 pm UTC

[info]beccafran
2007-12-27 08:12 pm UTC (link)
I actually had a pretty standard wedding, and I still felt like some kind of freak on the Knot -- there's a site called "Indiebride" where you might get more constructive advice. LJ's weddingplans community is also helpful, although somewhat skewed towards do-it-yourselfers.

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[info]peachespig
2007-12-27 08:42 pm UTC (link)
1. Your wedding idea is awesome.

2. Before our wedding, my wife briefly checked out The Knot and then ran away screaming. It seemed mostly to be designed to help leverage anxiety to separate brides from their money. She had a much better time at indiebride.com, have you checked that out?

Congratulations!

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(no subject) - [info]wankismyfandom, 2007-12-27 08:53 pm UTC

[info]wankismyfandom
2007-12-27 08:59 pm UTC (link)
I think The Knot is the wrong audience for this idea. They are worried about Perfect, rather than Fun.

But yeah, to echo everyone else, if you and your fiancé are cool with it, and none of your *really* close family members will absolutely die if your wedding is quite non-traditional -- have fun! Weddings are supposed to be a good time.

Be sure you warn any photographers you have well in advance, though. They don't always get to see the program.

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(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2007-12-27 10:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tekenduis, 2007-12-27 10:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2007-12-28 04:49 am UTC

[info]riah_chan
2007-12-27 10:00 pm UTC (link)
Your wedding sounds fun... I agree with asking Ren group people or costuming people about the details. They would be much more useful and interested in pulling it off in a fun way. Like others have said, it is your wedding so do what you want.

The only thing that I was confused at was planning it three years in advance? That's a long engagement. (I'm used to people having 6 month- 1 year long ones... mine was only three months.) I was just wondering if that was common.

I hope you have fun planning it!

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[info]drworm
2007-12-27 10:03 pm UTC (link)
Considering the most awesome wedding ever was Will and Elizabeth's in At World's End, I think your ideas sound perfectly reasonable.

Some people just suck. Jeez, it's not like you're inviting them or anything. So fuck 'em, do as you will.

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(no subject) - [info]usagivindaloo, 2007-12-28 12:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]imp, 2007-12-28 01:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2007-12-28 02:40 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]amxjm, 2007-12-28 06:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-12-28 02:22 pm UTC

[info]chaimonkey
2007-12-27 10:12 pm UTC (link)
Damn, if only you were in Ohio I would have the perfect choreographer recommendation... (Namely: The Swordsmen from the OH Ren Faire. They're hilarious and skilled!)

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(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2007-12-27 10:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ldymusyc, 2007-12-28 03:37 pm UTC

[info]notjo
2007-12-27 10:19 pm UTC (link)
One of my exes was the best man at a wedding where he battled the groom's family with his Very Big Broadsword to prove the groom's worth. There's totally lots of people who do this, or things like it.

Have fun - it's a party, not a bloody Prove Who's Most Worthy.

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[info]crickets
2007-12-27 10:46 pm UTC (link)
Adding to the chorus of "screw the spoilsports!" here. Your wedding idea sounds awesome. Btw, have you thought about any background music to go with the swashbucking action? Dang, I wish I could get invited to a fun wedding like yours. You must come back and post photos and/or vids afterward.

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[info]snacky
2007-12-27 11:06 pm UTC (link)
I'm a spoilsport too, because my first thought upon reading this was, "OH FUCK NO!" But then I've refused to attend weddings where I was told I must rent a (Star Wars, or Renaissance) costume to attend. I did, of course, send a lovely gift.

But still, it's your wedding, and you should do whatever makes you happy. I don't get why you'd care what any idiots online (myself included, heh) think.

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[info]walkingundine
2007-12-27 11:26 pm UTC (link)
I think you could make it work in crinoline. The hoops at least will hold the skirts clear so you can move more freely...

If you're going to have the mock battle at the ceremony (which I support!), consider what sort of weapons you'll be using. Firefly mostly is guns... I've heard of people homebrewing LARP Firefly games using NERF weapons and boff-LARP weapons. Would that work, or is it over the line into silly?

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(no subject) - [info]imperialgirl, 2007-12-30 01:15 am UTC

[info]tangentialone
2007-12-27 11:33 pm UTC (link)
Pffft, maybe they're just jealous that they'll never have a wedding that awesome some people wouldn't know awesome if it landed in front of their house in a spaceship and then pirates and ninjas came out of it and did a dance number.

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(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2007-12-29 05:39 am UTC

[info]daringu
2007-12-28 12:06 am UTC (link)
Um. As someone who went to a really boring and obviously planned by the families and not by the couple wedding over the summer, I have to say I'd much rather have gone to a wedding like yours.

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[info]komorebi
2007-12-28 01:03 am UTC (link)
Dude, I hate modern traditional weddings and all the overpriced hyperrealistic glutting tl;dr they stand for, and that sounds like a kick-ass idea I'd happily attend. But, yeah, the audience there is giving me the creeps. Go for it, and good luck!

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