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Tiara [my demand] ([info]mydemand) wrote in [info]i_wank,
@ 2008-02-19 16:08:00


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zines are not meant for money - EVER
I brainstorm a few ideas for fundraising through zines (I'm applying for the KaosPilots, a social enterprise school in Denmark) on [info]zine_scene. One idea involves selling my collection. All hell breaks loose.


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[info]julian_black
2008-02-19 08:25 am UTC (link)
There was huge zinewank a couple of years ago when a notorious LJ beggar asked for donations to a zine library she claimed she was founding--only to turn around and list the donated zines on eBay when she got bored with the project (which had no chance of getting of the ground anyway).

That wank had some justification behind it because the beggar acted on false pretenses to get free zines. But this? You paid for the zines you have. They are your property. You are free to do whatever you like with them.

Zinesters have a really strange concept of property when it comes to their work. I can't think of any other creative endeavor where the creators raise such an ungodly stink at the idea of their work being resold, even if it's for a fraction of the cover price as part of a grab bag and the zine is no longer in print.

I used to make and sell screen- and block prints once upon a time. I put just as much of my energy and passion into my artwork as the zine kids put into theirs--but it never occurred to me to try forbidding any of my buyers from reselling those prints.

And yeah, maybe I'm an evil old capitalist whore, but whenever I see them go on about "We barely break even, much less make a profit!" I want to ask, "And whose problem is that?" It's the same impulse that makes me laugh at [info]ciaraxyerra's "My poverty trumps your educational goals" shitfit. Seriously, what spiny thing crawled up her ass?

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[info]mydemand
2008-02-19 09:19 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I heard about that case, and I can see where that would be frustrating. But as you said, I paid for these, I didn't steal puppies for them or anything.

Thank goodness for you; I was starting to think I went crazy!! I posted a similar post (adding some craft-related ideas) to [info]craftgrrl and no one made a fuss. I got helpful ideas there actually :)

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[info]julian_black
2008-02-19 06:49 pm UTC (link)
No, you're not crazy at all! [laughs] There are plenty of crazycrazy people in the zine community, but even I'm surprised at the over-the-top rudeness and hostility of some of the replies.

And now I'm trying to parse [info]xcontortx's comments. Which is hard. Because clearly she wasn't enough of a "a capitalist privileged douche" to stay the fuck in school and learn to write comprehensible English. Or are spelling, grammar, and punctuation all part of The Establishment's plan to keep us oppressed?

Thanks for bringing the lulz to our attention. And good luck with your application and any fundraising you decide to do!

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[info]mistressrenet
2008-02-22 02:08 am UTC (link)
Word.

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