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The Harmonian Custodian ([info]esclaramonde) wrote in [info]i_wank,
@ 2009-04-12 09:34:00
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SPN wank makes us all losers
And this is a Fandom_Secrets wank, which makes it even more pathetic. I don't always read the secrets, probably for this reason, but the times I do I usually notice at least two secrets about the crazy that is SPN fandom, and see lots of defensiveness over it. The new format for comments (one thread for each secret) makes it even more obvious.

For some reason, I felt it necessary to involve myself. I would give more links and a detailed commentary, but I think it speaks for itself, plus oh god I can't bear looking at it again. I think I was trying to say that it wasn't worth dogpiling over, but who can even tell what my huge blocks of text are about.

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[info]ultimi_scopuli
2009-04-12 07:57 pm UTC (link)
It is like Charmed, a show about 3 sisters and the males in that show often acted as love interests or villains for the girls, no one every accused that show as being sexist.

No one thinks of the poor mens! I also like how Supernatural is All About The Boyz, women can only exist in relation to them and just get refrigerated to advance the plot, but the show is Totes Not Sexist. I couldn't say why this fandom got a bad rep!

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[info]esclaramonde
2009-04-12 08:11 pm UTC (link)
I decided to stop replying last night, and I got that one in the morning. I was itching, ITCHING I SAY, to go on a rant about sexism, but if this is the person who said "misogynism" I decided she wouldn't get it.

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[info]lady_ganesh
2009-04-14 01:31 pm UTC (link)
There's always the time-honored "Okay!"

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[info]esorlehcar
2009-04-12 08:20 pm UTC (link)
Heh. I was really defensive when Women's Work first premiered, because suddenly people who had never seen the show were defining it purely by the one vid, and people in fandoms with canons that were equally problematic were self-righteously patting themselves on the back for what good feminists they were because they would never watch the show. Then S3 happened, the the fandom erupted with misogyny and seething hatred for anyone who objected to it, BNFs were praised the skies for their "bravery" for posts that literally read "I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT RACISM AND MISOGYNY," and I realized that no, really, the fandom was in a class all by itself. Yay SPN.

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[info]esclaramonde
2009-04-12 09:28 pm UTC (link)
But I am assured that, like, everyone is always arguing all the time over the misogyny! Really! They're so conflicted and debatey.

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[info]esorlehcar
2009-04-12 09:38 pm UTC (link)
SPN fandom: Where "GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY FANDOM YOU FUCKING FEMINAZI CUNTS" is considered thoughtful, reasonable debate.

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[info]miss_padfoot
2009-04-13 12:27 am UTC (link)
what. Does that actually happen often?

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[info]esorlehcar
2009-04-13 01:39 am UTC (link)
There was a quite a bit of it last spring, when canon got really bad and people started commenting on it. Even the supposed "good" posts were all, "If you have any problem with misoygny on the show, the only rational way to respond is to keep your mouth shut and leave the fandom."

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[info]stella_polaris
2009-04-12 08:53 pm UTC (link)
Except Leo and Cole both had character purposes of their own, at least back when I was still watching.

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[info]mcity
2009-04-13 01:20 am UTC (link)
Wait, it sounds like you're claiming the show had an actual point. I'm having some difficulty with the concept.

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[info]stella_polaris
2009-04-13 01:23 am UTC (link)
I'd never claim such a thing. But the boys weren't just Romantic Interests.


Although I saw clips of the later episodes, and to be fair, it seems like that's what they later became.

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[info]panthea
2009-04-14 12:57 am UTC (link)
And CHRIS. BIG GAY CHRIS.

Oh, Drew Fuller and your "acting" "skills," I heart you so.

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[info]stella_polaris
2009-04-14 01:06 pm UTC (link)
I... have no idea what you're on about, sorry. Chris who?

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