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Thu, Nov. 5th, 2009, 12:22 pm
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fairestcat: Wednesday, November 4, 2009
- emeraldsword: random fic editing query - What is the etiquette of rewriting/re-editing fic after posting? Is there any? Do you all feel deceived if you go back to an old favourite and find that the author has amended the text since the last time you read? Do you even notice? -
- accioslash: Thirty Days of Spam...Day 2 - Fic and art clearly aren't treated the same by fandom when it comes to unauthorized re-posting. Seriously, how long do you think I could actually keep up a site with a re-post of a popular fan fic with the notation "I don't know who wrote this, but if it's yours, let me know and I'll credit you." But I see that with art all the time. -
- ladydreamer: Easy Out - I've heard producers and writers often talking about how flattering it is that fans can get so angry at them about what they've done on a television show or a movie, and how it's an ultimate compliment in a way, since what they want to do is move the audience, to make them feel intense emotions. Any emotion is good, right? -
Sat, Oct. 31st, 2009, 06:07 pm
inalasahl: Saturday, October 31, 2009
Mon, Oct. 26th, 2009, 09:06 pm
acari: Monday, October 26, 2009
- zahrawithaz: The White Mists of Avalon: Thoughts on Morgana's Race - And lot of the dynamics that play out around Morgana, both in the show and in fandom, are not only gendered but also racial. Whiteness is a presence, not an absence or a neutral zone, and the show often contrasts Morgana and Gwen in racial terms. -
- littlehollyleaf: Opinions on fanfic/fandom - I mean, I care if a piece of writing doesn't read well and if it has GLARING errors, but for fanfic it's the IDEAS that matter most to me and there is almost nothing I won't forgive. -
- the_willow: Twilight & Other Creepy Thoughts - It's startlingly to me to contemplate that Edward / Bella is the romantic story of the century [...] because the heroine is aware of, and is allowed to feel her own desire and have her own sexual wants outside of the social act of the new female/feminine performance of pretty and the hero gives a damn about it. -
Sat, Oct. 24th, 2009, 12:13 am
p_zeitgeist: Friday, October 23, 2009
- facetofcathy: Out of Patience - Fanfic is not all sexually explicit, it's not all shippy, but shit tonnes of it are. Those kinds of fics are about taking our source characters and fully exploring the totality of their humanity in all its possibilities. Sex is human, nothing else, and it's not naughty, or dirty, or wrong, or icky or nasty or any other fucking schoolyard word. -
Sun, Oct. 18th, 2009, 07:45 am
inalasahl: Saturday, October 17, 2009
- xparrot: On character hate, villains, and literary tropes - A basher who casts a female character as the evil obstacle in a slash pairing isn't necessarily doing it because they want to make people hate the character, or even because that's actually how they view the character; it's because it's how they want to view the character, what is the most emotionally satisfying way to see them, properly fulfilling their role as villainness. -
- accioslash: Poll... - I was talking with several different people about recs and have noticed that there seems to be a change in the way people rec these days. -
- twistedchick: thoughts on a common language - I think that as writers we need to be aware of the jargons we're using, when we're using them, and whether they're appropriate to the character and the situation. And it wouldn't be a bad idea if, as participants in an online community, we could be a little more aware that not everyone is working with the same jargon within a given discussion, or the same connotations of words, or the same background in understanding a topic. -
- puella_nerdii: Saying Yes: I Want Your Opinions! - I want more stories and art where being the submissive partner during sex is FUN and not demeaning. I want more stories and art where characters shout "Yes!" instead of "No!" I want more stories and art where characters get up to all kinds of kinky crazy fun, and are never made to feel shamed for their desires. -
Sat, Oct. 10th, 2009, 08:03 pm
inalasahl: Saturday, October 10, 2009
- lim: comment record - Be honest: don't assume improbable mantles of impartiality, objectivity, 'professionalism' or generalised godhood--relate to your members as fellow fans and adults, ask their opinions, and then make a firm decision and take responsibility for it. -
- ion_bond: Slash on TV - Lots of us would like to see the relationships we read as slashy (House/Wilson, Arthur/Merlin, Morgana/Gwen, Sheppard/McKay or whatever) elevated to the status of canon. This, as I see it, is distinct from the desire to see queer people represented for political reasons, and we ought to try to keep the two things separate when possible. My question is, would a relationship like one of those above, which people like us might find satisfying, dissatisfy other viewers? -
Sat, Oct. 3rd, 2009, 12:14 am
p_zeitgeist: Friday, October 2, 2009
- puella_nerdii: It's not FOR you. - It's the same kind of thing here. This isn't about establishing a hierarchy of talent or skill, it's about giving queer writers the tools they need to succeed in an industry that, let's face it, is not quite as friendly towards us as you'd hope. -
Mon, Sep. 28th, 2009, 09:25 pm
acari: Monday, September 28, 2009
- erastes: Lambda's Explanation of the New Guidelines and my comments - Instead of whining about how the world is shrinking for gay books, what we should be doing is submitting our books - en masse - to the mainstream, to Mills and Boon, to every book publisher out there. Instead of hiding behind a lavender veil and agreeing with the hype that "there's no market for it" "no-one wants to buy it" "No-one will publish it" we should be pushing - no, stabbing furiously at the heart of mainstream and forcing them to pay attention. -
- kanata: Oh, ew. - The landscape of queer fiction has changed dramatically with the rise of original slash, much of which (like slash) is written by straight women. A minority space is being taken over by a majority. It is not discriminatory to take steps to change that. -
- rm: on the Lambda Literary Awards and the art of disappearing - The idea of awards honoring queer authors is good. So is the idea of honoring queer stories. -
Fri, Sep. 25th, 2009, 10:00 pm
p_zeitgeist: Friday, September 25, 2009
- jane_elliot (in epic_rants): Whumpage Meta - Most whump fic is just like most teenage suicide fantasies: emotionally overwrought, featuring a main character who is totally right but terribly misunderstood, and who gains his validation through horrible trauma that makes everyone realize what a wonderful person he is. Thus a happy ending all around! -
- elf: Meta: Chapters vs. long oneshots - Fortunately, there are some software tools to fix the chapter problems.// I'd rather pause my reading when I'm ready to, not necessarily when the author thinks I should. -
- sam80853: How to become a... - ...successful mod? // How does one keep a com alive, and how to animate people to participate? -
Sun, Sep. 20th, 2009, 09:31 pm
kiltslave: Sunday, September 20, 2009
- jazzypom: Fandom, its kicking, sparkly pony and the right of reasonable protest - The whole notion of memes, and the right to have protest. As it stands, there's no right of protest, because it doesn't fit into the fandom convention of the "free for all" and *unlimited non judgemental squee* with such memes. So, although I want to participate, to enjoy, I don't want to be inadvertently giving my consent to a meme, or a fandom squee that celebrates any form of fail. -
- glockgal: Yuletart: What is fanart? - It's just another example of how in fandom the two fanwork biggies are Fanfics and Fanart - but the fanart umbrella stretches wide and is very nebulous. In [info]yuletart a lot of discussion was needed for us to define what constitutes as acceptable fanart for the fest. -
- selenak | Best Friends For... a rather limited time-span? (Spoilers for West Wing, BtVS, AtS and DS9) - What do you do, oh flist? When characters are portrayed as good friends in canon (doesn't matter whether or not you also ship them in a romantic sense or see the relationship as platonic or the family type of bond; there just has to be an on screen closeness that awoke your interest), and then these characters cease to have scenes together, and don't reference each other in dialogue anymore, either. Do you go the denial route - "they're still friends, we just don't see a lot of scenes"/"they're still friends, I reject on screen canon" - or do you accomodate for the changed on screen circumstances in your perception of the relationship(s)? -
Sun, Sep. 13th, 2009, 12:43 pm
inalasahl: Saturday, September 12, 2009
- logovo: That word might not mean what we think it means. - I'm starting to wonder if they mean the same thing I'm thinking when I hear acafans, as in actual people in academia, writing, publishing, teaching or fanlore's entry. Are people now using that word interchangeably with fans who are just into meta? Anyone else getting that impression? -
- attackfish: I Hate 'Teachable Moments': Disability and Fanfiction, or How Not to Fail at Disability in Comments - When I was a kid, books about people with disabilities seemed to end one of two ways. Either the pure, good, tragic cripple died, or the pure, good, tragic cripple was cured. Okay, there were also villains whose disabilities were a symbolic sign of their inner corruption, but I'm not even going to touch that one. [...] I had to carve out a happy ending of my own that included my disability. -
Fri, Sep. 4th, 2009, 08:37 pm
p_zeitgeist: Friday, September 4, 2009
Mon, Aug. 31st, 2009, 08:36 pm
acari: Monday, August 31, 2009
- mecurtin: Talking about who writes fanfic - As far as I know, I'm the only person who has even tried to collect stats on the universe of fanfic, and as you can tell I pretty much gave up a few years ago, because I didn't believe there was any way of getting good numbers. -
- jonquil: Harry Winston, tell me all about me! - A couple of evolutionary "cognitive neuroscientists" -- pause to make your saving throw against incoherent rage -- are turning their not-at-all-biased gaze on fanfiction. Fanfiction and GIRLS. Fanfiction and what it says about GIRLS PSYCHOLOGY AS DETERMINED BY THE EVOLUTIONS. They modestly comment, "First, let us say state clearly that we are not psychologists, nor are we cultural critics". -
- eruthros: please don't take the fanfiction survey - They are outsiders to fandom. They are outsiders to fanfiction. They are outsiders to slash. And they haven't tried to learn, or to understand, or to think about fannish communities. Instead, they have made assumptions about who we are, about what we read, about what we find hot; they plan to use those to explain what makes women tick, what our brains make us do. -
Sat, Aug. 22nd, 2009, 06:52 pm
inalasahl: Saturday, August 22, 2009
- esorlehcar: laurashapiro has an interesting post on - A friend recently commented that she sometimes misses the days when fandom seemed like this shiny, egalitarian place where issues surrounding race (and gender, to a lesser extent) just didn't exist and she didn't realize it was an illusion courtesy of her own privilege, and it struck me how telling a comment that was: For a whole lot of people, the anger that their fandoms are being "polluted" or "ruined" by this kind of discussion stems from a deep-seated conviction that these problems didn't exist in fandom before some troublemakers started talking about them, -
Sat, Aug. 22nd, 2009, 12:53 am
p_zeitgeist: Friday, August 21, 2009
- kass: Vividcon 2009 Con Report! - Short version: Vividcon 2009 was fantastic. -
- bop_radar: On inclusion and exclusion in vidding fandom: personal reflections - I've become increasingly uncomfortable about the politics of inclusion and exclusion within the community, and specifically at Vividcon. -
- laurashapiro: Vividcon 2009: Some observations about race, gender, and accessibility - Vividcon has been a very safe space for white women in the past, where our gaze is privileged, our opinions are valued, and our sexuality and our bodies are celebrated and safe. -
- musesfool: ten is for everything - For various reasons lately, I've been thinking about how to get along in general fandom-at-large (as opposed to a fandom for a specific source) on LJ/DW/etc., or at least how to not piss a majority of people off before you even get to things that are actually worth pissing people off over, and though it's not anything that hasn't been said a million times before, I thought I'd share what I came up with -
Thu, Aug. 20th, 2009, 07:28 pm
amireal: Thursday, August 20, 2009
- bop_radar: On inclusion and exclusion in vidding fandom: personal reflections - I've become increasingly uncomfortable about the politics of inclusion and exclusion within the community, and specifically at Vividcon. -
- laurashapiro: Vividcon 2009: Some observations about race, gender, and accessibility - Vividcon has been a very safe space for white women in the past, where our gaze is privileged, our opinions are valued, and our sexuality and our bodies are celebrated and safe. -
- musesfool: ten is for everything - For various reasons lately, I've been thinking about how to get along in general fandom-at-large (as opposed to a fandom for a specific source) on LJ/DW/etc., or at least how to not piss a majority of people off before you even get to things that are actually worth pissing people off over, and though it's not anything that hasn't been said a million times before, I thought I'd share what I came up with -
- zvi: Creative Commons and Derivative Works: That Does Not Mean What You Think It Means - I wish CC would have a more sophisticated discussion of what exactly a derivative work is (I know, I know: legal questions are hard), and a licensing scheme which allowed for the licensing of some derivative works but not others. -
Tue, Aug. 18th, 2009, 06:48 pm
- yourlibrarian: Writercon Panel Write-Up -- Cage Match: Science vs. Magic - Kalichan discussed how in the Buffyverse the fact that canon is sloppy with its magic doesnâ™t keep the story from being compelling because magic is used as a metaphor in that show. However, normally the reader has to put too much effort into suspension of disbelief in fantasy stories where even the writer doesnâ™t seem to take it seriously. -
- general_jinjur: untitled - expanded notes from writercon podfic program -
- yourlibrarian: Writercon Panel: Podfic 101 - There are maligned genres even in podfic, among them very short audiofics, because users feel frustrated in making all the effort to download, upload and playlist, only to have a short payoff during perhaps long activities. -
- yourlibrarian: Writercon Panel: Genre - On Saturday afternoon, Kristina Busse did a presentation from a paper she had written on Affect and the Individual Fan: The Role of Genre and Tropes in Writer Creativity and Reader Engagement. -
- yourlibrarian: Writercon Panel: Hurt/Comfort - Friendshipper then brought up how in h/c there are generally active and passive characters, and the favorite character is generally the one who is doing the suffering. -
- yourlibrarian: Writercon Panel: If You Build It They Will Come - Rec communities also make LJ a space that has some searchability, which itâ™s not set up for. People may start just by keeping lists of fic they like, but if those recs gain some traction there may be the development of a centralized and important rec community that can lead to exclusion. -
- rahirah: Writercon 2009: -ism in Fandom - 'Privilege' is a term that gets thrown around a lot in these discussions, and in this context, it's a word which may not mean what you think it means. It's not about individual people being mean, or being racists or homophobes or whatever. It's about the biases that are built into our society. -
- rm: WriterCon: *fail edition - Because no, you are not marginalized or oppressed because you are part of the dominant group and people who are part of other groups are stepping up to say that we want some damn consideration. -
- sheafrotherdon: OH EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE NO - So, the first introduction of a major character with a disability . . . and the disability will not be explored, or presented in a realistic manner... [SG Universe spoilers] -
- gnatkip: Canon het couples with extreme sexual dimorphism? - I've been thinking about this lately, the fetishization of the dainty woman and the hypermasculine man. -
Sat, Aug. 15th, 2009, 01:31 am
p_zeitgeist: Friday, August 14, 2009
Mon, Aug. 10th, 2009, 10:23 am
Sat, Aug. 1st, 2009, 11:33 am
inalasahl: Saturday, August 1, 2009
- general_jinjur: okay, so: i'm at writercon. which--well, - stating you are open to further transformative use of your work removes a huge barrier to that use--it's scary to approach someone out of the blue to ask permission, and it also creates a commitment that may be too much for people who are (a) overcommitted, or (b) new to the form. -
