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Irony ([info]isntitironic) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2004-06-06 19:51:00
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Vegetarians 'deal with the anger' at being served meat. The OP has a point somewhere under all that hostility, but some of the others are just gorgeous...

Daughter of Nature: Oh I feel fo bad for all of you, I am sitting here practically in tears reading your posts...being a vegetarian is so much my life and soul that I just can't believe that people would do something so horrible. I always just put it right out there when I go to a restaurant...so that I don't get a screw up..but, as I see, that doesn't always work.

I went to one of my favourite restaurants one day and ordered a salad. Yes, a salad...just the salad...and it said like "salad $5.95" "chicken on salad $6.95" or something like that. Well the SOB waiter brings out my salad with chicken on it. He just "assumed" I wanted it on there. I (again) cried because some poor animal had to be waisted to be on my lettuce! I felt like vomiting too! People who aren't veg don't understand..not at all!

Another thing..I am in an omni family..and my omni relatives say "Sarah, get the salad and have the chicken put on the side so I can eat it" and I am like...NO..I don't want to contribute to those horrible happenings!

I can be a real bi*** to live with but, I don't care. I am a compassionate Christian woman who believes deeply in what I believe in. I am AR and AW and I get sick of people downing me for that!

Okay, sorry I vented!
Sarah

Fitnesstiger: I cannot understand that people are still so ignoring as the proportion of vegetarians and vegans is constantly on the rise. There should be more awareness for our needs as there is for, say, diabetics.

ETA: Now it's wandered off into further metawank, including accusing me of being a disgruntled member. Which is a change from being an evil meat-eater, I suppose.

Wow, there's some anger over on that other thread, eh?

Meat eaters can't control their aggressiveness...

The irony is killing me.

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[info]tempslut
2004-06-07 03:07 am UTC (link)
If she had simply said, "They shouldn't have told me it was a veggie dog when it was a regular hot dog," that would have been fine. Speaking as a vegetarian, it's annoying when people mislabel something as vegetarian when it's not (such as animal broth in a rice dish, for example). However, flailing about how you have animal bits inside you and "oh the humanity!"-ing everything isn't going to do a damn thing, other than make those people laugh at you. Just explain that, unless the broth is of a vegetable base (or a cream or cheese base, if you eat dairy), you can't eat it. People will understand.

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[info]erik
2004-06-07 03:35 am UTC (link)
Bitch, I have NO SYMPATHY. You don't know the feel of food you didn't know you were consuming crying out in your stomach. Not until you're hurling it up, along with the rest of your dinner, choking, breaking out in hives, going into anaphylactic shock, and getting carted off to the emergency room because the waiter at your vegan restaurant assured you that your order had no peanuts in it. Unless you're severely allergic to meat somehow, I am totally not feeling your pain.

... okay, maybe a little bit, because I throw hissyfits when peanuts or milk products are in my food and I was told they weren't. But that's because I come this fucking close to kicking the bucket every time I eat something with them.

Oops. *wipes splooge off* Sorry bout that.

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[info]pyratejenni
2004-06-07 03:46 am UTC (link)
Your post?

Is not wanky.

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[info]gal_montag
2004-06-07 03:49 am UTC (link)
I would like people to stop politicizing my dinner, thanks so much. So you don't eat meat, be clear about what you want and ask questions. But you don't get to be all pissed that other people do or when people assume you want chicken on *gasp* a fuckin' chicken salad!

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[info]blackjackrocket
2004-06-07 03:54 am UTC (link)
Those people infuriate me. I mean, really, it's ok for animals to eat other animals because that's 'part of nature', but it's not ok for humans, who are BY NATURE OMNIVORIOUS, to do the same...*growls*

*eats meat loaf for dinner just to make her cry...and, y'know, because it's what's made*

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(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-06-07 04:32 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-06-07 09:51 pm UTC
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[info]beccastareyes
2004-06-07 04:57 am UTC (link)
My sister is vegetarian for moral reasons. She also refuses to buy leather products, wiht one exception -- she has leather shoes for her band uniform, because they are part of the uniform. Aside from a few jokes early on -- jokes that usually went both ways -- she does not force her morals down the rest of our throats. She would get pissy is she asked for a vegetarian meal -- unless it is painfully obvious something is meat free, she will tell waitstaff she is vegetarian, and ask about animal broth and geletin -- and was brought a dish with meat in it, she would be a little pissed, but just send it bakc to the kitchen.

Can I see if I can get her to beat some sense into these people?

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They're swimming in my belly!
[info]criticalcricket
2004-06-07 05:04 am UTC (link)
I can sympathize a little. To order something called a garden dog and find out that it's not a garden dog at all. To order something vegetarian and get something that isn't really is lousy, especially if you've started eating it already.

Anger is a common reaction, but some of them are being so dramatic. "Oh my god! A chicken died to be in my salad!" Sure, they killed that chicken specifically for you. Did you hear it screaming out your name as they chopped off its head? I don't think so.

Just deal with that anger and move on, don't make it into something it wasn't. Must they be so rabid about it?

This reminds me of that whole "The water in New York is not Kosher" thing. The water contains copepods, which are crustaceans. Copeapods are about the size of sea monkeys. Can you tell me that people are only now noticing there's critters in their water?

Wonder how those Vegans would take it. "OMG! I drank a whole colony of little sea monkeys and they're swimming in my belly!"

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[info]daijinryuu
2004-06-07 05:04 am UTC (link)
Do I eat your friends? No, so don't eat mine. Go Veggie!

Y'know, this reminds me that one instructor I had raised goats, and one day he brought in some goat jerky. Apparently he named the goat "Skillet" at birth. He was a very good goat.

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[info]xturtle
2004-06-07 05:14 am UTC (link)
Dear Daughter,

Please stop being on my side. You're making my side look stupid. The people who accidentally fucked up and put chicken on your food make nowhere NEAR enough money to cover the actual amount of energy, patience, and creativity they spend keeping restaraunts afloat. They certainly don't make enough to put up with your self-centered bitching. If you're going to take the meals they prepare that seriously, please consider refraining from dining out. As a compassionate Christian, I'm sure you'd agree that this would be a dear kindness to your fellow humans, as well as to the animals that will not be accidentally slaughtered on your behalf.

CJ,
wanking here so as not to wank there.

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[info]gloria_mundi
2004-06-07 10:29 am UTC (link)
At my school, every time I eat a sandwhich from the cafeteria, or the terriaki chicken and rice from the stand in the student center, I can't help thinking that by purchasing and eating this meal, I am offending vegetarians.

For some reason, that thought makes me happy.

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(no subject) - [info]lexin, 2004-06-07 07:42 pm UTC

[info]toss
2004-06-07 11:04 am UTC (link)
And I get to use this icon twice today.

I gave up meat when I was 14. I too went through a phase of calling meat 'dead animal', and 'rotting corpse'. Fortunately I grew out of it. Yeah sure, stuff labelled vegetarian shouldn't have meat in it, but expecting people to magically understand that you don't want meat when you order something that they normally prepare with meat is just... stupid.

And comparing it to diabetes is annoying. Diabetics don't have a choice over what they eat, Vegetarians do. I choose not to eat meat. I choose to buy my food from vegetarian takeaways, rather than going to MacDonalds and whining about the veggieburgers being cooked on the same equipment as the meat. I'm aware that my decision not to eat meat means I limit the places I can eat, and I don't expect the rest of the world to change its habits for my convenience.

If you're that sensitive about the possibility of dreadful meat molecules sneaking into your precious body, prepare your food yourself. It's not like shoving an apple in your bag is a hardship.

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[info]dwarfjen
2004-06-07 11:19 am UTC (link)
This sig amuses me:

"I am an animal. Hath not an animal eyes? Hath not an animal hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer as a human is? If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die?"

In order, yes, no, yes, yes, yes, possibly, if you count my dog humping the legs of strangers as a 'passion'; yes(my dog and cat eat meat, just like I do), yes, yes (sort of), yes, yes, yes. Yes. No. (Unless your dog laughs. In which case, freaky, freaky dog.) Yes.

... what was your point again?

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(no subject) - [info]dorian, 2004-06-07 12:49 pm UTC
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[info]dwarfjen
2004-06-07 11:23 am UTC (link)
Also, did anyone else note that the board is supported by little text ads down the bottom? The ones I got included one for 'Premium Elk Meat', and one for 'Meat Processing Equipment' (Risco - Worldwide producer of Meat Grinders and Vacuum Fillers)

I love Google Ads. So deliciously inappropriate, like topping a vegeburger with beef chilli.

... now I'm hungry.

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Disgusting!!!!
(Anonymous)
2004-06-07 01:30 pm UTC (link)
I`m disgusting to see this - so you think it`s ridiculous to get upset about the chicken?
So what about the diabetic who gets served ordinary coke instead of the diet coke he ordered? Maybe they have run out and hope he or she won`t taste the difference?
Funny,is it, really funny!

Fitnesstiger (the same one who has been quoted above)

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bitch please - (Anonymous), 2004-06-07 01:35 pm UTC
Re: Disgusting!!!! - [info]lurker32, 2004-06-07 02:15 pm UTC
Re: Disgusting!!!! - [info]auroraceleste, 2004-06-07 02:43 pm UTC
Re: Disgusting!!!! - [info]ahiru, 2004-06-07 03:00 pm UTC
Re: Disgusting!!!! - [info]apoplexia, 2004-06-07 04:14 pm UTC
Re: Disgusting!!!! - [info]terminal_frost, 2004-06-08 02:27 am UTC
Re: Disgusting!!!! - [info]quinctia, 2004-06-07 04:24 pm UTC
Re: Disgusting!!!! - [info]toss, 2004-06-07 07:38 pm UTC
Gotta take issue here... - [info]littleshebear, 2004-06-07 09:32 pm UTC
Re: Gotta take issue here... - [info]terminal_frost, 2004-06-08 02:21 am UTC
Re: Gotta take issue here... - [info]quinctia, 2004-06-08 04:13 am UTC
Re: Disgusting!!!! - [info]lexin, 2004-06-07 08:01 pm UTC
Re: Disgusting!!!! - [info]terminal_frost, 2004-06-08 02:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kyuuketsukirui, 2004-06-08 09:42 am UTC
Re: Disgusting!!!! - [info]visp, 2004-06-07 09:24 pm UTC
Re: Disgusting!!!! - [info]smo, 2004-06-07 09:56 pm UTC
Re: OHmyGOD - [info]cereta, 2004-06-07 09:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kyuuketsukirui, 2004-06-08 09:43 am UTC
Re: Disgusting!!!! - [info]erik, 2004-06-07 11:14 pm UTC
Re: Disgusting!!!! - [info]daijinryuu, 2004-06-07 11:25 pm UTC
Re: Disgusting!!!! - [info]gal_montag, 2004-06-08 12:16 am UTC
Well as a diabetic - [info]iczer6, 2004-06-08 05:41 am UTC

[info]also_not_a_pipe
2004-06-07 02:50 pm UTC (link)
After a while, the waitress came back to make sure that I wanted the main dish to be vegetarian as well. So this indicates that if I had not specifically asked for this, they would have added beef fat or other nasty things to this, too, maybe not even visible to me???

Gasp, yes, imagine. A restaurant's staff can't read your mind and know that you want modifications to a dish on the menu without your telling them? The monsters!

My sister is vegetarian. I honestly couldn't care much less. Actually this week I'm sort of glad, since I have to make a vegan dish for a party, and she loaned me her recipe scrap book (which does have some mouth-watering stuff in it, I'll admit). She used to be so shy that if she went out to eat with other people, they had to ask for her that the meat be left off of whatever she ordered. I always caught all kinds of crap because I wouldn't ask for her--if you're that strongly opposed to eating meat, you're strongly enough opposed to it to tell people about it yourself, says I. But Christ, I guess it's better than freaking out like Our Lady of the Holy Chicken Martyrs over there.

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(no subject) - [info]lurker32, 2004-06-07 03:17 pm UTC
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[info]raisedbyhyenas
2004-06-07 05:03 pm UTC (link)
Mmmmmm, nummy meat. Don't worry, vegans, I'll be happy to eat your share in addition to my own.

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[info]mania
2004-06-07 05:44 pm UTC (link)
I ordered a wan tan soup as a starter and a vegetarian main dish. When I was served the soup, I saw big chunks of ham in it and sent it straight back.

Um...there's normally pork in wontons, so yes, there would be meat floating around in the soup.

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[info]musette
2004-06-07 09:26 pm UTC (link)
Honestly, do these people not know anything about what they're ordering? I can understand in the cases where they were brought the wrong thing, but when you're ordering something that could have meat products (or in the case of things like wantons where they NORMALLY have meat and you'd know that if you had a clue what you were ordering), you can't just assume that whatever it is is totally vegetarian unless it's a vegetarian restaurant or you ASK them. Jesus, if you're dedicated enough to be a vegeterian, you should be dedicated enough to ask what's in things before you order rather than expecting people to be psychic.

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-06-07 10:06 pm UTC
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[info]maryavatar
2004-06-07 09:27 pm UTC (link)
"I'd like a cheeseburger, please."

"Here you go, madam. Have a nice day!"

"My God, you moron! There's meat in this! I ordered a cheese burger! The soul of this poor murdered cow is screaming at me, while it's flesh rots in front of us! How dare you?"

"Uh, cheese burgers traditionally come with a beef patty."

"I'm a vegetarian, allowances should be made for me!"

Sheesh.

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(no subject) - [info]eiviiaru, 2004-06-07 11:35 pm UTC
Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion
(Anonymous)
2004-06-08 01:22 am UTC (link)
To the authors of all the "I eat meat just to piss off vegetarians" posts..oh god, aren't you just so edgy and intelligent. You know, people typically have reasons for being against something and I'm willing to bet not one of you understands anything about factory farming or the myriad unnatural, painful mutilations animals go through before they're processed by the billions for you. Honestly, if you're fine with it then it's your business, but it's pretty horrifying that you'd make fun of people who love animals and aren't okay with it.

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Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]eljuno, 2004-06-08 02:26 am UTC
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Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]terminal_frost, 2004-06-09 03:01 am UTC
Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]gal_montag, 2004-06-08 02:42 am UTC
Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]terminal_frost, 2004-06-08 02:43 am UTC
Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]llama_treats, 2004-06-08 02:46 am UTC
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Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]eljuno, 2004-06-08 03:49 am UTC
Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]daijinryuu, 2004-06-08 04:02 am UTC
Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]iris, 2004-06-08 05:51 am UTC
Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]crickets, 2004-06-08 06:23 am UTC
Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]julia, 2004-06-08 04:21 am UTC
Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - (Anonymous), 2004-06-08 03:51 am UTC
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Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]lurker32, 2004-06-08 02:55 pm UTC
Soybeans - [info]lexin, 2004-06-08 06:13 pm UTC
Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]ahiru, 2004-06-08 08:01 pm UTC
Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]terminal_frost, 2004-06-09 03:14 am UTC
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Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]princessdot, 2004-06-08 10:14 am UTC
Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]zarla, 2004-06-08 01:28 pm UTC
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Re: Oh, DARN those vegans and their compassion - [info]llama_treats, 2004-06-08 07:37 pm UTC

[info]gal_montag
2004-06-08 02:54 am UTC (link)
Additional random thought, it's interesting that living in a country where there's always plenty to eat that we have people shunning food when there's starving children in Africa. /cliche

And while I know that doesn't totally apply because the meat eaten by starving Afircan children is obtained differently (no factory farms) I also know that there are people who don't seem to know the difference and think it's generally morally wrong to eat meat. So, thoughts? Is it morally acceptable to eat meat in a place where people are still hunter/gathering?

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(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-06-08 05:50 am UTC
Re: - [info]gal_montag, 2004-06-09 11:19 pm UTC
OP from the VB thread
(Anonymous)
2004-06-08 03:41 am UTC (link)
Just to clear up a few issues:

1 - Let me be perfectly clear, that there was NO hostility towards the servers involved. In no way do I believe they were intentionally deceptive, just incredibly ignorant. The message board were the original post was made is populated largely by vegetarians, who would be of a mindset to accept my post for what it was - a vent of frustration. If indeed I had decided to take out the cashier(s) involved you would've undoubtedly seen me on the 11:00 news. The others posts that make similar comments about violent actions are using hyperbole as well.

2 - Food allergies suck indeed. I work with a kiddo who is severely allergic to nuts, I have a latex allergy. They are not pretty. However, wretching into a portapotty after introducing hotdogs to a veg. stomach isn't exactly a Kodak moment either.

3 - If you actually READ the posts on the other board, you will find that, in general, the mistakes described in restaurants are the fault of the server/establishment. Of course a meatless dish should be free of meat/meat broth. Duh.

4 - The comment regarding this thread's OP being a disgruntled member was merely a random wondering. In no way was it an accusation. Such things happen in the world of the Internet and the poster was simply thinking aloud.

5 - Finally, regarding my favorite comment of this thread - that of shunning food while children are starving in Africa. The primary reason I became a vegetarian was for this very reason. When I made this transition in my 20's, I was not active in ANY animal rights campaigns nor was I concerned about my health (I was young:) ) I was however, concerned with the starvation of people in Africa, particularly in the areas I visited in Uganda and Nigeria. Raising meat takes far and away more land and resources, than does providing for a vegetarian diet.

Comments welcome, but please leave the ad hominem crap to another debate.

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Re: OP from the VB thread - [info]llama_treats, 2004-06-08 04:32 am UTC
Re: OP from the VB thread - (Anonymous), 2004-06-09 12:20 am UTC
Re: OP from the VB thread - [info]llama_treats, 2004-06-09 12:37 am UTC
no I meant that the OP here - (Anonymous), 2004-06-09 06:50 am UTC
Re: OP from the VB thread - [info]daijinryuu, 2004-06-09 02:21 am UTC
Re: OP from the VB thread - [info]terminal_frost, 2004-06-09 03:36 am UTC
Re: OP from the VB thread - [info]gal_montag, 2004-06-09 11:43 pm UTC
*Snarl*
[info]bishounenhuntrs
2004-06-10 04:28 pm UTC (link)
I cannot understand that people are still so ignoring as the proportion of vegetarians and vegans is constantly on the rise. There should be more awareness for our needs as there is for, say, diabetics.

Oh, like hell it should!

If I'm not careful about how what I eat effects my blood sugar it will kill me!
And it's not a nice, quick death either. Oh, no!
First your sight starts to go, till you go blind. Then you start to lose toes, then feet, then sometime a whole damn leg. During all this your kidneys start to fail, until then don't work at all, and you end up on dialysis.
You feel so bad that, as my late grandfather use to say, you'd have to get better to die.
Then, after a long time of this(sometimes Years), you die. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

So don't you tell me that they should look after your needs the same as mine as a diabetic.

[/rant]

sorry, y'all. This one pushed a personal button. *sheepish grin*

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Re: *Snarl* - (Anonymous), 2004-06-10 08:41 pm UTC
Re: *Snarl* - [info]bishounenhuntrs, 2004-06-15 11:44 am UTC
You have to agree with them on one thing...
(Anonymous)
2004-06-11 09:54 am UTC (link)
Veganism is a disease!

By the way, anyone have a spare JF code? I enjoy reading this community.

My email address is ashotarrow at yahoo dot com

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(Anonymous)
2004-06-11 05:23 pm UTC (link)
Umm,I wonder why some go into vegetarian boards to search for drama.They're boring.

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