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	judyhazeleyes 2004-06-16 01:09 am UTC (link)
	Given that there are many other disabilities, conditions, syndromes and illnesses that could render someone less than "normal" on some scales, that really is quite a silly distinction. (Reply to this)(Thread)

erik
2004-06-16 01:25 am UTC (link)

Yep. I'm really not taking sides on this one. On the one hand, the OP seemed to just be asking for hints on how to accomplish everyday interactions without embarrassing herself, or just how to deal with people in general, and god knows everyone in that community (myself included) needs those. But on the other, the us-and-them mentality in Aspie comms is just feckin' scary.

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judyhazeleyes
2004-06-16 01:49 am UTC (link)

I peeked around the comm out of curiosity (I can't resist seeing something referred to as "just feckin' scary", ever) and came across this:

-- The NT community as a whole considers it not only legal, but imperative to torture autistics into hiding their neurological differences from an extremely young age.

WHOA. So who qualifies as NT again? Because I certainly don't agree with that statement in the slightest.

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	circumstance 2004-06-16 01:53 am UTC (link)
	The non-autistic conspiracy strikes again! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2004-06-16 02:50 pm UTC (link)
	Of all the days to miss the memo... (Reply to this)(Parent)

circumstance
2004-06-16 01:58 am UTC (link)

Truly, this is a community founded on wank. From the userinfo:

As I just said, I want to keep this open membership but due to the obnoxious NT trait of thinking that guidelines they don't want to follow, don't exist or can be twisted to mean something completely different, it may have to become closed membership. RAAAAA!

Yes, because people without Asperger's are TEH ENEMY!!!11six

I have mild Asperger's, but I wouldn't touch this comm with a ten-foot pole.

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	elfy 2004-06-16 08:45 am UTC (link)
	And cos, liek, NORMAL people are the only ones who evah think that they don't have to follow guidelines and all that. snert It's like... reverse... illness-ism. Or something. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lolibot 2004-06-16 06:36 pm UTC (link)
	OMG but you don't want to have to be exposed to people who started reading after age three! they will CORRUPT you! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	darkvalkyrie 2004-06-16 06:59 pm UTC (link)
	Icon love! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: lolibot 2004-06-16 07:08 pm UTC (link)
	i must reciprocate. yours is funny as hell! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	virago 2004-06-17 12:50 am UTC (link)
	hey now. Stereotype check. is not Aspie read by age three (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	photosinensis 2004-06-17 03:42 pm UTC (link)
	stereotype re-check read by 1 1/2 is medically diagnosed as an Aspie (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	amasaglajax 2004-06-17 10:51 pm UTC (link)
	LEARNED TO SPEAK ENGLISH UPON ENTERING KINDERGARTEN AND LEARNED TO READ IN SIX MONTHS. IN KINDERGARTEN. YET NO ONE CARES. Cheez y0. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	virago 2004-06-18 01:17 am UTC (link)
	sighs never mind. You go right on ahead and generalize. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: lolibot 2004-06-18 07:31 am UTC (link)
	it was a joke. XD i'm a "normal", whatever that means. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	feenix 2004-06-17 08:31 am UTC (link)
	OMG but you don't want to have to be exposed to people who started reading after age three! they will CORRUPT you! makes mad love posts to metaquotes** (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: lolibot 2004-06-18 07:40 am UTC (link)
	oh! yay! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	geekmagirl 2004-06-16 03:05 am UTC (link)
	...this is what I get for not checking that comm for the past few days. Can I second the "Stop having my disorder, you're making my disorder look stupid"? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	beccastareyes 2004-06-16 07:48 am UTC (link)
	Third! Third! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2004-06-16 10:13 am UTC (link)
	I MEAN fourthed. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	GRRR I AM ANGRY WITH RAGE (Anonymous) 2004-06-16 10:15 am UTC (link)
	Gah. Not so dramatic, but copy and paste the links for iconage. http://www.freewebs.com/cheshiresmirk/makingmelookbad.gif http://www.freewebs.com/cheshiresmirk/btwstfu.gif muttermutterstupidphtobucketbeingdownmutter (Reply to this)(Parent)

	teratologist 2004-06-16 04:04 am UTC (link)
	I keep imagining that one day I'll click on 'aspie wank' and have it be wank about asparagus. At least asparagus is phallic. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	tempslut 2004-06-16 08:05 am UTC (link)
	And tasty. Yummy, yummy. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2004-06-16 04:55 am UTC (link)
	What is NT? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2004-06-16 04:56 am UTC (link)
	omg, you actually said it in the post, and I asked anyway. Could I be any stupider? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	phosfate 2004-06-16 02:30 pm UTC (link)
	You really could. Perhaps with the aid of a weekend seminar. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	cleolinda 2004-06-16 05:27 pm UTC (link)
	Sometimes the seminar people have me as an expert guest. Assuming I don't get lost on the way or trip over my own feet on the way in. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2004-06-16 08:56 pm UTC (link)
	I decided to leave there today because I got sick of the melodrama, and didn't feel like the place was that helpful to me at all. By the way, mind if I beg for a JournalFen code? One of my email addies is ashotarrow at yahoo.com (Reply to this)

	(Anonymous) 2004-06-16 10:19 pm UTC (link)
	Stop having my disorder. You're making my disorder look stupid. And your "disorder" does a good enough job of that all by itself! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	photosinensis 2004-06-16 11:01 pm UTC (link)
	As I said earlier, "You! Out of my mental illness!" (Reply to this)(Parent)

	photosinensis 2004-06-16 10:23 pm UTC (link)
	And this is why I stay away from that community. I much prefer the more intelligent side of square_circle. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2004-06-16 10:35 pm UTC (link)
	"Unknown User There is no user square_circle at JournalFen." Bad link. I assume this it what you were speaking of- http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=square_circle Thank you for mentioning that community. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: photosinensis 2004-06-16 10:37 pm UTC (link)
	Yes. That's the one I'm speaking of. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	eljuno 2004-06-16 11:07 pm UTC (link)
	For future reference, 1justin made a pretty little hack that makes a faux lj user tag for when you're off livejournal. Not important enough for a comment, but I've got it bookmarked for wank purposes. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: photosinensis 2004-06-16 11:11 pm UTC (link)
	I've been looking for that for a long time. Thank you! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2004-06-21 09:34 pm UTC (link)
	Institute for the Study of the Neurologically Typical (http://isnt.autistics.org/), which I'd find funny if the people actually adopting the word "neurotypical" weren't, well, retarded about it. (Reply to this)