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	elfy 2004-07-12 07:36 am UTC (link)
	DUDE. You just co-opted me! I was about to post this - mind you, probably elsewhere being amused about the MsA reference, but still... I'm just thinking, "How could she not know this would get so big?" Seriously. Augh! My thoughts exactly. And I'm just an Australian totally envying the fact that you get interesting slashy politicians and we get John Howard! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	sorchar 2004-07-12 07:40 am UTC (link)
	LOL You could always post it on FW. My friend says it counts as fandom. ;) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	elfy 2004-07-12 07:52 am UTC (link)
	It does, doesn't it? After all, once things have enough fangirls it's inevitable. But I might just leave it and frolic around here. Don't really need another post! :) D'you know how long has that big obnoxious flashing text been in the userinfo there?? O.o I could swear it wasn't there the other day... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sorchar 2004-07-12 07:58 am UTC (link)
	It wasn't. >. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	squib 2004-07-12 07:53 am UTC (link)
	I'm still boggling over "all slash is embarrassing." Okay! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	sorchar 2004-07-12 07:58 am UTC (link)
	Seriously. How can it embarrass you unless it's like, about your dad or something? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	squib 2004-07-12 08:09 am UTC (link)
	Well, now she's moved on to "all fanfiction is embarrassing." I don't get why you'd spend a ton of time on a hobby you find embarrassing, but I guess that's just me. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mireille 2004-07-12 08:13 am UTC (link)
	And she seems to mean "I wouldn't want to talk to my mother about it, so it's embarrassing." I wouldn't talk to my mother about fanfiction because she wouldn't be terribly interested. Does that make me embarrassed? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sorchar 2004-07-12 08:16 am UTC (link)
	It makes you EVAL. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mireille 2004-07-12 08:16 am UTC (link)
	Oh, is that why I'm EVAL? I'd always wondered. Thanks! *g* (Reply to this)(Parent)

squib 2004-07-12 08:35 am UTC (link)

*nods* I wouldn't talk to my mother about fanfiction because first I'd have to explain "I write", and then I'd have to explain "fandom", and THEN I'd have to explain what the Internet is. Considering that the last time she knew I was a fan of something was when I put a giant Duran Duran poster on my closet door in 1985, that conversation would take *much* too long. ;) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sorchar 2004-07-12 08:43 am UTC (link)
	I HAD THAT SAME POSTER ON MY CLOSET DOOR! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	telesilla 2004-07-12 08:11 pm UTC (link)
	Well you did until squib stole it from you, OMG! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sorchar 2004-07-12 08:12 pm UTC (link)
	h0r! Nick and Simon are MINE! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	smo 2004-07-12 12:13 pm UTC (link)
	Hell, my mom doesn't even know what anime is. I can't even fathom trying to explain slash to her. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ecchaniz0r 2004-07-12 02:54 pm UTC (link)
	My mom knows what anime is, as she's the one who got me INTO it (hello watching Astro Boy and Speed Racer with me) but as for explaining slash...she'd be all like 'dude, so what?' What I read or write = mom is ambivalent, aside from reccing good books. (Reply to this)(Parent)

diamonde 2004-07-12 03:36 pm UTC (link)

I talk to my mother about it. She read my comics when I was still buying and agreed with me about the OTPness of Gambit/Courier and that Xavier and Magneto so had a thing. She's also volunteered to watch Nsync interviews with me and learned how to tell them all apart, then asked me which ones were my favourite slash pairings. She didn't agree with some, but with my then-favourite she was all 'oh yeah, I can see that'. When Fox8 was showing Buffy marathons we'd have family time and watch two days of back-to-back Buffy episodes in our pyjamas. Plus, she's always up for a discussion of the serious philosophical points of Batman and the ways that Star Trek changed our culture. I have the coolest mother ever. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ecchaniz0r 2004-07-12 04:44 pm UTC (link)
	Your mom is awesome. Can I come over to your house after school~? :D (Reply to this)(Parent)

mireille 2004-07-13 05:49 am UTC (link)

My dad is that cool. He isn't particularly interested in slash (though he's well aware of it) but general fannish discussion, yes. He's read some of my gen fanfic. He's read a slash parody filk I wrote, though that was because he stumbled onto it on the web somewhere. He was amused. My mother knows about fandom, and fanfic, and so on. She doesn't know about slash because she's way homophobic and I save my arguing with her for discussions of my personal life, and we don't talk about fandom because she just isn't interested. So I say things like "I'm happy because I'm writing a lot more these days," and she says "That's great, dear," just like she tells me about her friend's hip operation and I say "oh, that's too bad." (Reply to this)(Parent)

	shoiryu 2004-07-12 04:53 pm UTC (link)
	My mom reads a lot of my slash. Few days ago I showed her my most recent completed Van Helsing piece and she went, "Oooh, I want to see more of this!" (Reply to this)(Parent)

	plazmah 2004-07-12 08:12 pm UTC (link)
	My mom knows I write fanfiction, but nothing about the slashy variety. I don't think she's ever recovered from when I explained 'anime' to her. She believes "cartoons" are for kids aged 2 to 10. *shrug* (Reply to this)(Parent)

telesilla 2004-07-12 08:17 pm UTC (link)

My mom stumbled across my slash back in '96 when Deja News came out. She was testing it for the library she worked in and used my name because she knew I was active on USENET. Having her learn that the fanfiction I'd told her that I wrote was actually NC-17 related mansex was a lot less troubling than realizing she also discovered that I hung out on alt.sex.bondage although being a nice reticent WASPy person she never mentioned that. She won't read my smut because: "which would be harder to deal with: reading your daughter's smut and liking it? Or having to tell her you don't like it?" She does read my parodies and the occasional gen piece. Every once in a while I get this "I wish you'd write more things that I could read" thing from her. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2004-07-12 11:10 pm UTC (link)
	My mom WRITES slash. I WIN!!!1one!!! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	elanor_durall 2004-07-13 12:10 am UTC (link)
	I told my mom about slash about seven years ago, when she asked what the hell I was doing in the basement for so many hours and why her phone line was always tied up. She ended up reading one of my NC-17 stories. Luckily, she was only mildly traumatized and eventually made a full recovery. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

mireille 2004-07-13 05:53 am UTC (link)

Several years ago, Dad found an X-files parody piece (of Green Eggs and Ham) I'd written. He did recover nicely from the trauma, though he used to give me Dr. Seuss books as presents (we're an odd family) and he's stopped that now. I believe we've now established that he knows I write it, he knows I read it, he knows that's why I squeal and squeak at times when I'm watching TV with him, but we do not discuss it in depth because he is Not Interested In the Man-Sex. And I'm not telling him I've written femslash, because I'd be afraid he'd read it. *g* (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sorchar 2004-07-13 06:07 am UTC (link)
	That was YOU? I LOVED that! I still have it saved. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mireille 2004-07-13 06:11 am UTC (link)
	Guilty as charged. *g* (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sorchar 2004-07-13 06:11 am UTC (link)
	*fangirls* (Reply to this)(Parent)

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	rinoared 2004-07-12 08:54 pm UTC (link)
	Oh! Icon love to the MAX! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	meril 2004-07-12 08:48 am UTC (link)
	Well, when people were making slashy jokes at MetaFilter and at Instapundit, for crying out loud, completely independent of the comm, what the heck did she expect? If she didn't start it, someone else would have. (Reply to this)

	iczer6 2004-07-12 08:49 am UTC (link)
	I'm just thinking, "How could she not know this would get so big?" Seriously. I don't know, I mean is political RPS the next big thing? Cause most of those guys are, well, kinda old and married. Still you think she'd be happy her comm was such a hit. Icz (Reply to this)(Thread)

	elfy 2004-07-12 08:51 am UTC (link)
	But but but!! People are joining it for teh pr0n!! I mean, it's not like the userinfo states it's about teh love between the 2 Johns or anything!!! Oh, wait... (Reply to this)(Parent)

	smo 2004-07-12 12:11 pm UTC (link)
	What I'm thinking is that she didn't realize how many other people out there saw the slash potential in John^2. What I don't get is why she thinks that's a bad thing. *headscratch* (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ymfaery 2004-07-13 11:25 am UTC (link)
	Didn't read the entire thing, but I got the impression she didn't think that many folks would pop out of the woodwork and make the comm so huge. She doesn't want to mod huge comms, so she promptly "stomped out" in as wanky a manner as possible cause she's a drama queen and everyone loves her for it. :D :D :D (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2004-07-13 02:12 pm UTC (link)
	I can understand feeling overwhelmed, but she was being so wanky she wasn't even making sense anymore. Never write angry, people. [/PSA] (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

ymfaery 2004-07-14 12:28 am UTC (link)

Like I said, she did it in the wankiest manner possible. Her humor doesn't translate well if you don't regularly read her journal and her writing, which is also why I said she most likely had no intention to mod a huge comm. The fact that she jumped ship so quickly--wasn't the comm made last week?--cinches it. I'm surprised I can still see the funny since I haven't followed her journal for a few months. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2004-07-14 03:25 pm UTC (link)
	So, her journal's pretty funny, huh? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ymfaery 2004-07-15 09:16 pm UTC (link)
	If you don't mind abrasive humor. For example, her circle of friends --which includes mooncalf and chaobell--like to say "your mom" a lot. (I.e. "I did your mom last night." "I did yours last week." etc.) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2004-07-15 09:57 pm UTC (link)
	Heh. I love "your mom" jokes. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	thebratqueen 2004-07-12 03:12 pm UTC (link)
	People were doing political RPS in the last election too. Bill Bradley/Al Gore, as for example. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2004-07-13 02:13 pm UTC (link)
	See, I was all about the Clinton/Gore. OMG how disgusting!!111!eleven! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	katsue 2004-07-12 11:54 am UTC (link)
	Okaaaaaay... Beeblebabe is one of my favourite smutfic writers, and she's just announced that slash and fanfiction are embarrassing. ... ... Waaaaah! ^^;; (Reply to this)(Thread)

	smo 2004-07-12 12:11 pm UTC (link)
	"They're all embarrassing... EXCEPT MINE OMG DUN STEEL!!!11!one!" (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lurker32 2004-07-12 01:19 pm UTC (link)
	Because creating an LJ community and pimping it and writing out a nice long comm info isn't taking it very far at all. (Reply to this)

	ymfaery 2004-07-13 11:19 am UTC (link)
	*blinks* *reads a few comments by the ex-mod* ... OMGROTFLMAO Whitney is just too hilarious. (Reply to this)