I've never really wanked anything before, but this was just too insane to pass up (if only a baby wank)- European history wank, of all things.

The LiveJournal community for European History has always had a strong and public anti-Nazi/white supremacy stance. Academic discussions of Nazi Germany were fine, anything beyond that wasn't. Such a clear policy was needed because apparently, anyone who wants to study the history of white people in any form comes across as a total racist.

Recently, a

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I've never really wanked anything before, but this was just too insane to pass up (if only a baby wank)- European history wank, of all things.

The LiveJournal community for <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=europe_history" target=resource window>European History</a> has always had a strong and public anti-Nazi/white supremacy stance. Academic discussions of Nazi Germany were fine, anything beyond that wasn't. Such a clear policy was needed because apparently, anyone who wants to study the history of white people in any form comes across as a total racist.

Recently, a <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=nazi_regime" target=resource window">community supposedly dedicated to academic discussion of the Third Reich</a> advertised in the community. The moderator took a look around, decided that the views there took a definite white supremacist slant, and deleted the advertisement post as violating the community's rules. Now, it could have stopped there and spared us this headache, but this is the internet. Things never stop before causing a headache on the internet.

The moderator then went on to make a <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/community/europe_history/34659.html" target=resource window>post about how anyone joining this group (or a similar group) would be banned from the community by mere association</a>, which started a small-scale battle. Said moderator then went on to appoint several co-moderators without the permission of said moderators.

I should note here that this so-called "acadedmic community" has friendslocked itself down, and made it plain in its userinfo that "some views may be biased." So wow, they're admitting that it's not an academic community, and the European History moderator was right all along- except now the wank is going in a whole different direction.

You see, one of the moderators that was unknowingly appointed came in and made a post about how he's tried to reach the moderator by e-mail and hasn't gotten a response. He's not exactly keen on moderating a community that bans people by association, apparently. The post has been since deleted from the community, but he's also <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/users/klig/263433.html" target=resource window>crossposted it to his own journal</a>, so you can still see it.

This post seemed to me a rational one, but it sent the community maintainer into what appears to be a royal fit. He makes a <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/community/europe_history/36119.html">cryptic post about the community being closed</a> (though he doesn't make it clear whether that means "closed joining" or totally ending the community), and turns off all comments for every post in the entire community. Including those that have to do with, you know, European history.

Oh, you academics. Whatever are we going to do with you?

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	kijikun 2004-08-11 05:30 am UTC (link)
	I was part of the comm, when I read the mods post and he said if we didn't like it leave? I left. shakes head It's not like that comm got a ton of posts anyways. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	gamera 2004-08-11 05:50 am UTC (link)
	Nah, it really didn't. I was so dissappointed that he turned off all the comments, though. There was some great arguing about the sizes of their academic dicks. ("My MA in history is better than YOUR MA in history!") (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kijikun 2004-08-11 05:52 am UTC (link)
	Even us students of history can be idiots, eh? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	princessdot 2004-08-11 07:26 am UTC (link)
	Don't know which is worse, straightforward idiots or erudite ones who couch their ugliness behind pretty words. (Reply to this)

eiviiaru
2004-08-11 07:45 am UTC (link)

All I really have to say about it is that eventually this led me to Claim a Nazi War Hero (sic), and then I felt no further need to investigate this. JESUS.

(Also, my "giant revisionist fucktard" blinkers started to go off when nazi_regime mentioned "educational censorship" right on the User Info. Nnnnnnh. Not that the European History guy wasn't being a wanktard, but... sets my teeth on edge.)

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	gamera 2004-08-11 08:07 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, that's why I mentioned that the European History guy had turned out to be right about them. Because really, both sides in this are insane. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	deoridhe 2004-08-11 03:25 pm UTC (link)
	...am I wrong, or did the history nuts just beat out the knitters in terms of epic, blown out of proportion scale? Is it a Jurisimprudence law? "The smaller a "kingdom" and the more unimportant the "issue", the more autocratic and unreasonable a dictator or detractor will be." snickers (Reply to this)

	livviebway 2004-08-12 12:48 am UTC (link)
	So THAT'S why that community just disappeared! (Reply to this)

	ladylisse 2004-08-12 03:56 am UTC (link)
	Academia. It's like fandom, in a way. The sad thing is? I was thinking of joining that comm before it went kablooie. I'm focusing on what basically amounts to Nazi Germany for my BA, and finding a history comm that doesn't have racist undertones is nearly impossible. (Reply to this)

	biichan 2004-08-15 08:14 am UTC (link)
	Huh. Looks like they turned the comments back on. (Reply to this)