Gah.

(Anonymous)
2003-09-17 05:57 am UTC (link)

She's the victim. The community at large took advantage of her fictionlized hero-death and used it as an outlet for their grief. Even though she received hateful comments, she perservered, because she thought it was good for the community!

Every year, she tearfully recalled his death in her journal, so that other people could take comfort in comforting her.

And after this hard work and sacrifice, when the truth comes out, people might actually feel betrayed by her lies! She might lose friends over it, and that's the true tragedy here. Not the lies, not the exploitation of a tragedy as a 'convenient' solution to her fictional character problem.

I dunno--I'd like to be all sympathetic about her obvious mental issues, but I'm mostly just angry.

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	Re: Gah. senor_pinata 2003-09-17 05:59 am UTC (link)
	Would you like a code? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Gah. (Anonymous) 2003-09-17 06:13 am UTC (link)
	I would very much appreciate a code. My e-mail is: jlbkwrm@earthlink.net (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Gah. (Anonymous) 2003-09-17 02:48 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you for all of the personal accounts of rhyein that you posted over in livejournal. btw, if you need a code, let me know ;-) (Reply to this)(Parent)

off_key
2003-09-17 08:12 am UTC (link)

September 11th just ended up being convient since that's where he "was" to begin with.

Fucking hell. I can't help but being pissed off on behalf of everyone who truly felt bad when they found out that "her friend" had died in the attacks -- and, shit, I remember reading

user info for flashman on www.journalfen.net

flashman's journal a year or so back myself and getting a bit teary eyed at the comments.

And to find out it's all fake?

Part of me feels sorry for the girl. The other part wants to hit her in the head with her own shoe.

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	(Anonymous) 2003-09-17 09:16 am UTC (link)
	"The other part wants to hit her in the head with her own shoe." Just make sure she is wearing stilleto heels, but a steel toed combat boot would suffice/ (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lots42 2003-09-17 10:19 am UTC (link)
	I would go completely with the hitting feeling. Someone else in another forum pretended to die, on cheesy 'let's everyone bond' motives. We still hate him. (Hmmm? ... Nah, he's a fuck) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	phosfate 2003-09-17 03:09 pm UTC (link)
	Part of me feels sorry for the girl. The other part wants to hit her in the head with her own shoe. There is no earthy reason why you cannot do both. I'm just sayin'. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	senor_pinata 2003-09-17 03:19 pm UTC (link)
	It's like multitasking, in a way. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	walkingundine 2003-09-18 11:46 pm UTC (link)
	...And now he dead from shoe. (Reply to this)(Parent)

faultypremise
2003-09-17 12:27 pm UTC (link)

Is anyone else just completely unimpressed with this so called 'apology' of hers? It's filled with excuses for her behavior, and tearful pleas for people not to hate and defriend her, tugging at the heartstrings of people she has duped and deceived for well over two years.

I would have been much more impressed with 'I did it. I shouldn't have. I'm sorry.' Rather than 'I did it. But I did it because of this! And this! And please don't hate me because it's not really my fault, see! I was filling a niche, a need! I am a -martyr- for all of you!'

Seriously, the crown of thorns just doesn't fit her properly. I'd be more inclined to save my pity for the people who believed in her right up to the end and she deserted when they were looking to her to back them up with certain proof that never came.

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	virago 2003-09-17 02:05 pm UTC (link)
	Uh-huh. It didn't really strike me as a real apology at all, with all the chest-beating and sighing - it LOOKS like an apology, but I'd bet you it's designed to get the "Poor baby!" faction we saw in the other thread to spring into action. And I wish it would just end there, forever, but I bet it won't. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

senor_pinata
2003-09-17 02:55 pm UTC (link)

Here's the thing that gets me--well, the people who forgive are free to do so, doesn't hurt me--but they're really not seeing the big picture. It's not just a character journal that got out of hand. She also faked this guy as a messageboard participant, on Instant Messenger...and she didn't just allow the grief to happen. She perpetuated it. She encouraged it.

And how about real life? My roommate is perfectly capable of bitching out if she so chooses, but I have to admit I'm pissed on her behalf. Rhyein cried on her shoulder--literally. She sobbed and soaked up the sympathy and made my roommate physically ill because she was so worried about Rhyein, and about whether she was so grief-stricken she would hurt herself. This is not just an online thing that hurt nobody. She actively deceived my roommate when she knew perfectly well that it would make her sick.

She's disgusting, and I don't think she even realizes the severity of her offense.

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faultypremise
2003-09-17 07:12 pm UTC (link)

She also fostered little relationships with people using him. I read at least one person's journal who was saying she had a crush on Flashman. And now she knows that it was all a lie.

I don't feel sorry for this girl at all. She's lied and emotionally manipulated people for a long time and this is only karma coming back to hit her. While her friends are free to forgive her, they're doing a disservice to those who /were/ hurt by trying to dismiss everything so readily and actually perpetuating this strange idea that people don't have a /right/ to be angry.

They do. She has to live with it.

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	phosfate 2003-09-17 02:53 pm UTC (link)
	"This is the only thing I've ever lied to any of you about..." Bets? (Reply to this)(Thread)

senor_pinata
2003-09-17 02:59 pm UTC (link)

Fuck. No.

I mean, maybe she hasn't lied about anything on her journal, but I can list multiple occasions when she blatantly lied to my friends and I in real life. I also remember a time freshman year when she was IMing a friend-of-a-friend of hers (whom she had not met in real life) and was convincing him that she was this girl from Ireland who wanted to be his friend. She laughed about it. Her track record is somewhat against her.

I know that my various stories about what she's like in real life can't exactly be corroborated without a confession from her, since I stupidly did not think to carry a tape recorder the entire time I was friends with her, but at least I can offer up photographs and old saved IMs to prove I knew her. That's more than she ever could provide with Flash.

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	moonjaguar 2003-09-17 04:18 pm UTC (link)
	Oh man.... the only good thing I can say is that she admitted (finally) that she lied about the whole thing. I certainly hope she gets professional help and learns there are better ways of getting attention than a spectacular two-year-long play on people's feelings. I've seen some spectacular faked internet deaths and deaths-by-proxy but this has to top the list. (Reply to this)

Rand time.

limyaael
2003-09-17 04:25 pm UTC (link)

Excuse me if this gets rather long.

I am so fucking sick and tired of people deciding that a delusion they perpetuate, encourage, and foster over and over again should be tolerated because, "It helped me feel better! I didn't know what else to do! I need validation!" and various other sob stories.

This is just sick, in so many ways. Pretending to be ready to commit suicide is sick. Pretending a friend really died is sick. Pretending the friend died in a tragedy that provoked such emotional reaction is sick.

And all this, just to make herself feel better? Or because she "forgot?"

Yes, because one person's pathetic need for validation, or loss of memory (not that I believe that excuse for one fucking second) is worth more than the emotional damage she did to other people.

I've encountered so many people with delusions on the Internet- none on this scale, but people who thought they were goddesses, or elves, or destined to do something special, or destined to die before they were twenty years old, or who pretended they had sick relatives or burgled houses or plagiarized stories. And most of them have turned out to be lies. But, really, it's okay, because the lie made them feel better!

No. Fuck, no. Causing other people to suffer for the sake of your own well-being is just...

There are no words for how sick this is.

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	Re: Rand time. teratologist 2003-09-17 10:43 pm UTC (link)
	You know, for a second I thought you meant Ayn Rand, and I was like, this: No. Fuck, no. Causing other people to suffer for the sake of your own well-being is just... doesn't sound like Ayn Rand at all. Weird moment. Anyway, I completely agree. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Rand time. senor_pinata 2003-09-17 10:52 pm UTC (link)
	Hee. I'm glad I'm not the only one. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	psychofangirl 2003-09-17 05:07 pm UTC (link)
	Well, at least she admitted it. And of course the comments would be disabled. Gee, I wonder why. (Reply to this)

	(Anonymous) 2003-09-17 07:06 pm UTC (link)
	Where can I find this CBB board? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	veuki 2003-09-17 07:55 pm UTC (link)
	AndromacheNET. (Reply to this)(Parent)

teratologist
2003-09-17 08:27 pm UTC (link)

I don't think this apology addresses the point.

I mean, it's one thing to fantasize about having a closer relationship to a Big! Dramatic! Event! than one really does. Probably anyone who had a classmate die in highschool, for instance, observed how the dead person suddenly had three times as many 'really close friends' who turned up to the funeral or wrote little memorials in the yearbook than the total number of people who would actually talk to said dead kid when s/he was alive.

But this chick, and some of her friends, don't seem to realize that it becomes more diseased and plain wrong in proportion to the amount of time you spend on it. It was the amount of energy she poured into it that made it a Momument of Wank, and spending that much energy on something like this is just not a sign of robust mental health even if the motives were somehow totally benevolent or if she "never meant for it to get this out of hand." In fact, the idea that it 'got out of hand' is kind of worrying to me, since that implies a loss of control.

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	vengeance_bean 2003-09-18 01:41 am UTC (link)
	She's got an entry for commenting up now. This should get interesting. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	faultypremise 2003-09-18 06:27 am UTC (link)
	Yep, I had to comment to her. http://www.livejournal.com/users/rhyein/287364.html?thread=691588 (Reply to this)(Parent)

	oxydosic 2003-09-18 09:57 pm UTC (link)
	Notice that on Sept. 11th this year she has NOTHING to commemorate her dead friend..she's being all giggly and taking quizzes. The whole thing is just disturbing. This chick is seriously screwed up. (Reply to this)(Thread)

iammeiam
2003-09-19 12:17 am UTC (link)

I thought this post was weird, because I distinctly remember reading her weepy, "Oh Flash, I still miss you, but the meeeeeeeanies made me take down your journal! Pity me! Pity me!" post from this year.

It's gone.

I went back and checked--She's removed all of her Flash-related September 11th posts, as far as I can tell. The posts where she worries, the post where she tearfully tells everyone Flash's mother called to let her know he's dead, gone. Almost like it never happened in the first place.

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