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A Beautiful and Unique Snowflake (uniquesnowflake) wrote in otf_wank,
@ 2003-09-19 21:24:00

Current mood:	Sparkly
Current music:	Madonna- Express Yourself

Is YOUR Sex Drive Justified?
I'm itching to call these girls bra-burning feminazi closet-lesbians, but that's an insult to lesbians and closet-lesbians everywhere.

You see, a Hornblower fan HATES the way that naked male porn/fine art is usually called "homoerotic". Barring the fact that women have homos to thank for the upsurgance of male porn, period, why the hell does it matter? Are we not allowed to be attracted to those of different sexualities, now?

The entire post turns into an orgy of comments bashing them stupid men (all they think about is dick, you know), and talk about how much they SUCK.

I calmly put in a counterpoint...

And proceed to be told to GET BENT! before being banned from the girl's journal and watching the post get friendslocked.

I guess people with testicles aren't allowed to have opinions?

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kyuuketsukirui
2003-09-20 02:34 am UTC (link)

LOL, this girl's whole rant comes from her own confusion. >_> If she's seeing a picture of a naked man, by himself, and it's labeled as homoerotic, then it's simply labeled wrong. If it's two men together, then it is homoerotic, because of the subject matter, not because of any assumption about the sex of the viewer.

God save me from people like her.

And look! There's anti-RPS crap down at the bottom! It's two wanks in one! Whoo!

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	uniquesnowflake 2003-09-20 02:38 am UTC (link)
	Well, in fine art photography "homoerotic" applies to any art that portrays naked men in non-social psuedo-sensual poses (one man counts), and "homosocial" portrays men in non-sensual (cohabitive) environments. So either she's got her terms really mixed up, or she's masturbating to the wrong material. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

necronomist, 2003-09-20 08:51 pm UTC

	moonjaguar 2003-09-20 02:45 am UTC (link)
	It's two wanks in one! Whoo! It's the Doublemint Twins of Wank! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	gairid 2003-09-20 03:49 am UTC (link)
	It's two! tap Two! tap Two Wanks in One! waves to Grace (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

moonjaguar, 2003-09-20 07:53 am UTC

gairid, 2003-09-20 11:14 am UTC

moonjaguar
2003-09-20 02:43 am UTC (link)

Wow, I didn't know that the photographers of the Brewer Twins had the stipulation: "Only gay men are allowed to view these photos. No straight/bi men, no women may under any circumstances view these images."

That and I wonder if she or they consider nudity and porn to be one and the same. While the line varies for many, I just don't understand why the righteous froth about I want Heteroerotic for Me made to order IN ALL CAPS. I mean, since when does the gender and sexuality of the viewer come into play?

My head, she hurts again. And

uniquesnowflake, for you I think you were pretty darn calm.

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	uniquesnowflake 2003-09-20 02:58 am UTC (link)
	Didn't you hear? They had me neutered last week. They thought it would make me stop biting people. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

moonjaguar, 2003-09-20 02:59 am UTC

uniquesnowflake, 2003-09-20 03:01 am UTC

gairid, 2003-09-20 03:47 am UTC

tempslut
2003-09-20 03:31 am UTC (link)

"Screw gay MALE porn. I want straight woman porn -- porm for women."

I want porm for women, too!

I wonder what she thinks of lesbian porn.

Finally, bisexual women have libidos too, dammit! Why not BI-EROTIC Pr0n!?? (Oh wait. That's pretty much everything that doesn't make me barf or want to bleach my brain.)

Also,

uniquesnowflake, you hit the nail on the head. My boyfriend, for one, seems to separate me from the porn just fine. He's been separating me from the porn for almost two years. (We're talking modern porn here, of course. While we both like '70s porn, I have to say that it would be tougher to separate me from the pre-mass-implant-era. But that's another thread.)

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moonjaguar
2003-09-20 03:40 am UTC (link)

I usually knew it wasn't going to work out between me and a guy if he was freaked out by the idea that I had no problem with his nudie mags or his porn.

I mean, most normal people don't look like that. Hell, even the airbrushed implanted people don't look like that away from the camera. Savannah looked like a totally different person without the makeup and lighting and while wearing clothes.

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	gairid 2003-09-20 03:46 am UTC (link)
	"Why not BI-EROTIC Pr0n!?? " I think you mean 'Porm', darling! I don't know why she got so worked up...who cares what it's called if it rubs your kink the right way? And Uniquesnowflake? You can unbend here anytime you want, lovey. mwah (Get bent! How RUDE!) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

uniquesnowflake, 2003-09-20 04:15 am UTC

jfpbookworm, 2003-09-21 02:44 am UTC

	lots42 2003-09-20 12:40 pm UTC (link)
	I ended up with some early, early Playboys. (I found 'em, honest, really anywho) and I was suprised to find that the women inside had different body and breast shapes. I was all astonished. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

tempslut, 2003-09-20 05:46 pm UTC

nevadafighter
2003-09-20 03:54 am UTC (link)

Telling you to "get bent" and banning you means that she's not able to sufficiently back up her own points to engage in an argument with you because she knows she'll lose--or end up looking like an idiot, or both. (With you as the other arguer, I'm betting both.) ;)

Her mentality: Since I can't hold up my end of the argument, I'm gonna go for the ad hominem attack and then block my adversary. Works every time.

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	moonjaguar 2003-09-20 04:00 am UTC (link)
	I'm wondering who the ass monkey who text messaged me with "fuck off and tell your little friends to do the same bitch" on the heels of this shebang was. Prolly coincidental but the timing! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	uniquesnowflake 2003-09-20 04:13 am UTC (link)
	I'm your little friend, now? I feel quite privelaged. Slap me and call me Toto. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

moonjaguar, 2003-09-20 04:41 am UTC

	coyotegirl 2003-09-20 05:49 am UTC (link)
	I agree the whole thing's pretty wanky. However, I don't think your point was very calm. Looked a bit more along the lines of wankish sarcasm to me. shrug (Reply to this)(Thread)

	uniquesnowflake 2003-09-20 06:01 am UTC (link)
	If you don't think that was calm, clearly, you don't know me. I have a massive anger management issue. And as we all know, sarcasm is the baby brother of anger. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

coyotegirl, 2003-09-20 06:22 am UTC

lcsbanana
2003-09-20 05:56 am UTC (link)

the deeply annoying thing is that in essence, I agree with her. I just don't add the part where ALL MEN SUCK I HATE THEM SO MUCH, and LESBIANS ARE SELLOUTS I HATE THEM SO MUCH. I mean, I tend to have days where I wish I lived in a lesbian separatist colony, but I recognize that as irrationality born of irritation, not THE WAY MEN ALL ARE ALL THE TIME. BECAUSE THEY SUCK.

also, your post wasn't calm or nice, but I see no reason why it should have been. so, w00t.

also? her stories? Not that fucking great. They tend towards the saccharine, overly-conscious-of-word-choice, look-I-can-write end of the Blah spectrum.

Also, don't fucking dismiss my desire to look at naked women as an "excuse" for the patriarchy.

lesbian separatist colony. sending in the application on monday, I swear.

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	uniquesnowflake 2003-09-20 06:03 am UTC (link)
	"Calmly" was meant entirely sarcastically in this case. I was making fun of my self and my bad habit to tell people exactly what I think about them. Ironically, they usually don't like it. Oops. (Reply to this)(Parent)

sorchar
2003-09-20 06:43 am UTC (link)

Ooh, you got told to get bent by Jan Cortese? Isn't she a semi-BNF from way back?

Regardless, male-bashing fucking pisses me off. I happen to live with two perfectly lovely men, well, one's a boy, and the women who think feminism=man-hating annoy the FUCK out of me.

Oh, sorry, I should have spelled it "womyn" or "wimmin" or some other semi-literate way of mangling the English language.

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	telesilla 2003-09-20 07:10 am UTC (link)
	Well she was considered a BNF back in the heyday of alt.sex.fetish.startrek (which became ascem). Wrote wordy TrekSmut. (Reply to this)(Parent)

moonjaguar, 2003-09-20 07:42 am UTC

(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2003-09-21 01:48 am UTC

moonjaguar, 2003-09-21 04:40 am UTC

sorchar, 2003-09-21 01:10 pm UTC

	sagralisse 2003-09-20 07:16 am UTC (link)
	Ugh. Too many big words. Sagra say naked men GOOOOOD. (Reply to this)

	beandelphiki 2003-09-20 07:52 am UTC (link)
	I'm reading cortese's comment where she's ranting on about how men don't like intelligent women, and it's making me snort juice up my nose. (Reply to this)(Thread)

lcsbanana, 2003-09-20 08:43 am UTC

lots42, 2003-09-20 12:42 pm UTC

mirabellawotr, 2003-09-20 12:53 pm UTC

moonjaguar, 2003-09-21 12:35 am UTC

sorchar, 2003-09-21 01:12 pm UTC

moonjaguar, 2003-09-21 06:53 pm UTC

virago, 2003-09-22 03:34 am UTC

sorchar, 2003-09-21 01:11 pm UTC

moonjaguar, 2003-09-21 06:50 pm UTC

	I like it with saltine crackers, myself. mauralabingi 2003-09-20 08:29 pm UTC (link)
	More here. (Reply to this)(Thread)

Re: I like it with saltine crackers, myself. -

lcsbanana, 2003-09-20 09:34 pm UTC

mauralabingi, 2003-09-20 10:05 pm UTC

	jfpbookworm 2003-09-21 02:47 am UTC (link)
	I think her original point, that calling sexualized images of males homoerotic assumes that the viewer is male, is an interesting one. But it got lost when folks started talking about What Men Think and obliterated when the thread got locked. (Reply to this)

	faultypremise 2003-09-21 08:04 pm UTC (link)
	Wow. This cortese chick is scary. If you're a lesbian but write slash fic, you're not a lesbian. Because, you know. YOU ARE WHAT YOU WRITE. Uh... ok. (Reply to this)(Thread)

moonjaguar, 2003-09-21 09:52 pm UTC

iczer6, 2003-09-23 11:33 pm UTC

	quinctia 2003-09-22 06:33 pm UTC (link)
	You know, if no men found intelligence sexy and were threatened, I'd never get laid. Though in hindsight, it probably didn't make my ex very happy when he brought over his math work once (he was in college) and I looked at the textbook and went "I had that same book when I was 15"! I think I need to work on that sensitivity thing that us women are supposedly good at. :D (Reply to this)

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