GLBT Wank?
Hey everyone. Know that irritated feeling of opening your inbox and finding it full of interest-related spam? Well, apparently, now you can find it on your lj if you don't have it Friends Locked. And if you joined any related comms in the past, for whatever reason. And you can get trashed, in your own journal and on a public comm if you don't like it.

I just love how

clead_fan figures that because she's offering support to the GLBT communities, that she's more maturer than you, omg.

original post: by clead_fan
My comment to an e-mail I received about me spamming other LJ's with my invite to this community
"Well, if I took time to go through a lot of people's journals and comment on what they wrote about it would take me forever :)"

"Their Comment"
(Any good promoter knows you need to be someone the audience can relate to. By saying this, you're telling me that you have no real interest in who I am, and so if I join, all I will do is raise your member count number.

This journal is not a public community. (Me: How could I post then if it was personal post and not community?) You actually have a lot of balls to troll other people's journals and spam them with advertisements. You don't care who joins, you just care about how many people you can recruit. That's really bad PR, which reflects on you and your community.

It might take you forever, though making a short comment, such as, "hey, I like karaoke too, and by the way, I have a community I thought you might like to join," wouldn't possibly take you all that long. That is, if you cared to personalize your message to your audience. You obviously don't. Your copy-and-paste advertisement makes you a troll. A spammer. I hope you're able to see that.)

OK...NOW...For those of you who REALLY know me, Am I sincerely in this to get a "popularity count" of how many people I can call "my LJ friends" LOL...Nope! Those of you who know me from GAGV know that I am a mature leader in the youth community who cares deeply about each and every person out there. Taking into consideration that I am very hopeful about being a future facilitator for the GAGV, very involved in the Anti-Violence Program, also still involved somewhat in RITGA through my old college and a speaker for the GAGV's QuicheMaster's Bureau where I go around talking to classrooms about issues surrounding the GLBT community to bring about more awareness. Yet, somehow, I really don't care about people or getting to know people. I'm trying to reach out to others in the community to gain more involvement for the ROCHESTER COMMUNITY. I'm putting myself out there for others and I get a comment like this. Hahahaha....People kill me...

Man of chevits...LOL...This person is obviously a disgruntled citizen of Rochester who either isn't too fond of themselves or really doesn't like community interaction. SO, I pose to them if they read this...We aren't forcing you to join, it is merely an invite, take it as you wish. If you'd much rather sit on your duff, pull "poor pity me" attitudes with others, then that's fine. However, if you'd like to take the time to introduce yourself and join us, with a somber attitude, instead of lashing out at others who are trying to promote more of a community, then that is fine too, welcome. I know what I'm in this for as I think others have figured it out also by now. Have Yourself A Wonderful Day, whoever you are :) I won't be mentioning any lj names in the instance that you do want to join us. ~ Peace ~

As for the rest of you, let's continue posting and get to know more about each other.

Thanks! :)

RE: by baitedbreath
I will repeat myself once more: Promote your community in a way that personalizes it to the person you are seeking to invite. Use someone's name/LJ handle. Make a comment about them that would make it seem as if you were interested in who they are. Neither of these takes much time, and if it does, you will still get more out of it because your outreach will succeed.

You know the difference between a community and a personal journal. This is a community. baitedbreath is a personal journal. The fact that the post was not friends locked makes no difference.

No, you weren't forcing me to join. And until I saw this post, I was contemplating joining, despite the rocky start, because I am interested in Rochester's GLBT community and the other communities are dead. You didn't mention any names, but your mocking of me and my concerns leaves a terrible taste in my mouth.

I would ask you to take this post down, but that would overstep my bounds, as I am not a member of the community. But please reconsider having content like this in a community designed to promote friendship and tolerance.

RE: by moonything
That's the thing, dumbass. She DOESN'T know you. Having you post on her livejournal (not a community, her private journal, now) is an invasion of privacy, and I think she responded to you much more maturely than you did to her. Furthermore, you put up a post on this community that you were promoting to mock her after picking a fight with her on her journal.

Some people are comfortable enough with their sexuality that they don't need to join a "community" of random people who just-so-happen to be also GLBT to get support. Some people can do things for themselves, and not have a "pity me" attitude. You whine about those who don't know YOU well, and who obviously can't see that you are a wonderful awesome mature whatever person.. well, hate to break it to you, but you're doing the same thing by assuming that those who don't want to join your cause are anti-social, sad, lazy individuals.

Your "advertising" is something that /I/ would consider harassment.

No, I don't live in Rochester, and I'm glad I don't.

RE: by darkkamui
Hello. I am a friend of baitedbreath and I followed this thread, in which you advertised this comm, unsolicited, in the way of interest-based spam email, on her private journal.

It's quite nice that you are so involved and are so enthusiastic about "reaching out" to the GLBT communities, of which I am most assuredly a part. The support is nice. But your involvement apparently makes no impact on your level of maturity. The fact that you dragged a personal debate onto this community with the intent to publically mock your opponent is sneaky, vicious, and downright cruel. Especially because you left out her name, making it impossible for those reading this to find the actual conversation. You didn't make her anonymous for her benefit. You did it for your own sake. And I've no idea what makes you think that after posting something like this, anon or not, that she would even consider joining.

All she did was ask that, if you were going to post to her private journal (and for such a short entry), that you make some relevant commentary showing that you cared a lick beyond the other communities that she's in before cutting and pasting your spiel. Seriously, how inconsiderate, immature, and downright rude are you to think that you could get away with something like that, and this and that you wouldn't be pissing off anyone?

Seriously. Study Sociology, shrink your head, and grow up. Then we'll talk about you having the capacity to lead an "open-minded" community.
- RE²: by clead_fan
  So far I haven't pissed anyone off except for the people you know...
  Everyone else has been delighted to join...
  
  I figured I'd leave her name out for the sake that she didn't want others to know that she deprecated me so badly, especially since a majority of these people are my friends in my community. As far as I'm concerned, people know me here personally and I have no problem posting whatever because they know me for who I am, not someone who goes around putting someone down for trying to make an effort. I also didn't say her name to save face if she ever did want to become a part of this community. But I can see that isn't the fact on how she tore me apart from the beginning for posting an invite to her journal name, which I got off the old glbt communities.
  
  Sorry to be so "inconsiderate"

RE: by clead_fan
OK people, this is ridiculous. My condolances to finding your personal journal "baitedbreath" but remember who attacked who first. Now that you've gone out to get your "comrades" I'm going to be the one to end this shin-dig and say to hell with it, cause it's not worth my time to fight about it! This is stupid! How old are we??? I simply invited people from the prior rochester glbt communities. If you were part of the community, I invited the members. Sorry I wasn't so technical in your eyes. If you didn't want to be a part of it, a simple e-mail or post to say "I'm not interested" would have been sufficient! Not a long reply about how I so unwantedly burst through your LJ door to invade your life. Wow! Imagine that I actually cared!

If you're too stubborn and pig-headed to see that then to hell with you all... So sorry to upset you and take up your time. I know how busy the rest of you must be. I in turn am done meandering around this stupid senseless childish shit! You all seem to be connected and against my resolves to make a community effort and that's fine! Whatever, just don't deprecate my efforts, I'm above that and will not let that stand in my way. Go back to the hole in which you all came from... ~ Peace ~

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	oysteria 2004-10-26 07:07 pm UTC (link)
	Cue massive eye-rolling. I admire baitedbreath for being far more patient than I would if someone spammed my journal. (Reply to this)

	llama_treats 2004-10-26 07:13 pm UTC (link)
	Dear clead_fan. Shut the fuck up. Love, l_t (Reply to this)

	cleolinda 2004-10-26 07:24 pm UTC (link)
	My condolances to finding your personal journal That doesn't even make sense--clead_fan makes it sound like it had nothing to do with her, like, "My sincere condolences on that plane engine dropping out of the sky and falling on your ~~brother~~ journal." (Reply to this)(Thread)

	tyraarane_ 2004-10-26 10:26 pm UTC (link)
	Personally, I'd take the plane engine over the spam. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	winterfalls 2004-10-26 07:40 pm UTC (link)
	baitedbreath should report her to LJ Abuse for spamming. I know I would. (Reply to this)

	rosalita 2004-10-26 11:16 pm UTC (link)
	My goodness, I've never seen a point sail quite so high over someone's head. Very impressive. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	nevadafighter 2004-10-27 06:39 am UTC (link)
	Seriously. How much hang time did it get, you think? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lindentree 2004-10-27 12:49 am UTC (link)
	Wow. It might be useful for clead_fan to note that parroting on about all she does for the community, and how friendly and outgoing she is, and how all her friends think she's super, and how her cause is so important that it transcends tact does not change the fact that she's a spammy ass who needs to shut the fuck up. Gah. The stupid! (Reply to this)

	annabelle_lee 2004-10-27 01:04 am UTC (link)
	AGH. PLEASE SHUT HER THE FUCK UP, THE REST OF US WHO LIVE IN ROCHESTER ARE NOT LIKE THAT. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	annabelle_lee 2004-10-27 01:09 am UTC (link)
	Er. Sorry for the capslock abuse, but Jesus H. Christ, I wanna cry now. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	maryavatar 2004-10-27 01:09 am UTC (link)
	GJ has a feature where you can report spam comments. Someone gets more than three spam reports and their journal gets suspended. At first I thought 'Sheesh, there's feature that's going to be abused', but now I'm thinking 'Damn, why doesn't LJ have that?' (Reply to this)(Thread)

	fxh 2004-10-27 02:04 am UTC (link)
	I thought LJ does have that option. When you click to delete a comment, there's usually a checkbox that says "Report Comment as Spam" or something like that on the confirmation page. At least, I managed to use it last time someone spammed my journal. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	maryavatar 2004-10-27 02:14 am UTC (link)
	Ooh, shiny! Muah ha, spammers beware. I have an itchy deletin' finger. (Reply to this)(Parent)

A dork protests

xturtle
2004-10-27 05:06 am UTC (link)

Seriously. Study Sociology, shrink your head, and grow up. Then we'll talk about you having the capacity to lead an "open-minded" community.

Please leave my discipline out of this. Sociology, while an infinitely interesting academic enterprise, can make no asshat less annoying simply by virtue of "sudying" it. In fact, if my undergrads are any gauge, it really does very little for "open-mindedness" or maturity. In fact, it tends to invite students who think that sociologists do nothing more than opine on matters of human nature, and thus believe that arguing "that's wrong because I've never experienced it" is valid critique of social theory.

Please do not study sociology. We can't fucking help you.
/rant

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	Re: A dork protests oysteria 2004-10-27 01:27 pm UTC (link)
	Hee hee! Fuckin' WORD. (P.S. People who've taken Communications 101 and still claim "Advertising doesn't affect me at all!"--change your major now. I mean it. Get the fuck out. If you can't apply any of what you just learned to your own life, you're wasting your time.) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: A dork protests mistressrenet 2004-10-28 03:14 pm UTC (link)
	You are both geniuses and I love you. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: A dork protests oysteria 2004-10-28 04:48 pm UTC (link)
	It's nice to be loved. (Reply to this)(Parent)