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	kijikun 2004-10-27 05:17 am UTC (link)
	I'm not seeing wank, just people laughing and making comments about how sad it is. Is there a certain thread? Perpahs link to that too. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	julia 2004-10-27 05:20 am UTC (link)
	http://www.livejournal.com/community/customers_suck/7957043.html?thread=78999091#t78999091 That's the part that caught me as wanky when I first wandered about in that thread. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kijikun 2004-10-27 05:38 am UTC (link)
	Thanks (Reply to this)(Parent)

	elanor_durall 2004-10-27 06:21 am UTC (link)
	Gratuitous ellipses ... kill me every time. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	wankprophet 2004-10-27 05:55 pm UTC (link)
	Ellipses...are ne...ver gratuitous, or one the Internet, no-one can hear you pause dramatically. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	mydemand 2004-10-27 05:57 am UTC (link)
	sorry - it's just everywhere, hidden in all the subthreads. Though I thought this and anything by chale was sounding pretty wanky (even if I agree with chale.) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	oysteria 2004-10-27 05:21 am UTC (link)
	Poorly educated people and people with physical or mental handicaps deserve to be victims of identity theft? Okay! (Reply to this)

	tyraarane_ 2004-10-27 05:28 am UTC (link)
	I fail to understand how the OP could think that that scenario was in any way funny. And posting a scan of the check (do I even want to know how she managed to hold onto it long enough to get to a scanner?) goes beyond tasteless. Somebody call the gene pool police. Stat. headdesk (Reply to this)(Thread)

	iczer6 2004-10-27 05:53 am UTC (link)
	I don't think she thought it was funny as much as it was sad and frustrating. Icz (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mydemand 2004-10-27 08:32 am UTC (link)
	"I mock his stupidity, not his illiteracy." - OP (Reply to this)(Parent)

	pradaloz 2004-10-27 03:44 pm UTC (link)
	I doubt it; if she thought it was sad, she wouldn't have made the oh-so classy move of scanning the check and written that "someone this stupid deserves to have his contact info posted." (Reply to this)(Parent)

	twocorpses 2004-10-27 06:42 am UTC (link)
	Someone asked the OP how they got the cheque and scanned it but they never replied. I'm interested to know that as well... (Reply to this)(Parent)

	khym_chanur 2004-10-27 07:09 am UTC (link)
	It must say something about my mind that I saw "uneko, and briefly read it as "uke-no". What makes this even more distrubing (to me at least) is that I'm not at all a fan of yaoi, so why am I seeing "uke" in places where it doesn't belong? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	mistressrenet 2004-10-28 01:33 pm UTC (link)
	Too many yaoi kerfluffles on fandom_wank lately? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	jar 2004-10-27 08:03 am UTC (link)
	I saw that a while ago. I really don't know why she had to actually scan the check, it just seems increadably... mean hearted. I don't really care what the rules about writing checks are, once she saw he was having serious problems writing it, she should have helped. The whole post is wanky, never mind the comments. (Reply to this)(Thread)

iczer6
2004-10-27 08:40 am UTC (link)

I don't really care what the rules about writing checks are, once she saw he was having serious problems writing it, she should have helped.

She's a cashier not a reading teacher, it's really not her job to teach him how to write a check.

I think perhaps she wanted to help, but in that situation, where she was busy and there's a possibly of her getting into serious trouble, there wasn't a whole lot she could do.

Icz

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	jar 2004-10-27 08:45 am UTC (link)
	Yes, I'm aware she could have gotten in trouble. Basically, I think she should have helped. It's not her job, I didn't say it was, but I think helping him would have been a decent thing to do. That's all I have to say. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Sometimes decent things get you fired

karmakaze
2004-10-27 02:34 pm UTC (link)

I think it came up several times in the thread that exployees are simply not allowed to fill out checks for customers. It's less a matter of "not her job" and more "doing that risks getting herself fired on the spot."

I work for a company that prints a directory. Occassionally I get calls from someone wanting a name and number from the directory and I can't help them. I can tell them how to find the directory and how to use it (which is not my job, but not forbidden), but I cannot give them a name and number. Period. No matter how sad their story and how completely unable to fill out a simple web form they are. Because that will make my company liable if they don't like the person I name, and because I could be fired. Sometimes you really, actually, cannot help someone.

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Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired

jar
2004-10-27 02:42 pm UTC (link)

I think your situation is a little different from hers. You telling people how to find the directory, and how to use it, would be the same as her helping him with the check.

I think she should have helped. I get that she could have gotten fired, I understand that she's not allowed. I still think she should have helped.

Not many people agree with me, obviously. Oh well.

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Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired
(Anonymous)
2004-10-27 03:40 pm UTC (link)

Because, hey, it's every employee's responsibility to risk her job for a guy who hasn't bothered to learn to read or use some non-reading-required form of payment--a guy she doesn't even know. Sorry, I missed the part where we're all required to be Mother Teresa to the lazy people of the world.

And yeah, I did think the guy deserved a bit of mockery: English is his first language, by the story, if dyslexia doesn't excuse bad writing online it shouldn't excuse it off, and it's possible to pay in cash. (I'm also with the person who said that people who use checks in non-mailing-things-in situations are irritating.)

--funwithrage

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	Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired jar 2004-10-28 09:22 am UTC (link)
	Illiteracy is not a product of laziness. Other than that, Ive given my opinion. Feel free to read my couple of comments again, because Id just be repeating myself. (Reply to this)(Parent)

Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired

rogue
2004-10-27 04:26 pm UTC (link)

I think she should have helped. I get that she could have gotten fired, I understand that she's not allowed. I still think she should have helped.

Have you ever worked retail?

I have, many times, including an extremely busy grocery store. Elderly people LOVE their checks, most of them refuse to use credit cards because they don't understand them - and yet they'll take a full ten minutes to write a check, because they're starting to not understand that, either. Thankfully, most of them would come with the store name, their signature, and the date already written out. Some of them would ask the cashiers to write out the amount - but we can't. MOST stores have that policy: you may not write on their check under ANY circumstances. It's grounds for immediate removal from the job, and sometimes banks will look at this vastly different handwriting on this poor old person's check and think they were hosed into giving someone money, and cancel it.

However, I think scanning the check and posting it is a pretty asstastic thing to do, and seems vaguely illegal.

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Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired

ymfaery
2004-10-27 08:41 pm UTC (link)

MOST stores have that policy: you may not write on their check under ANY circumstances.

O_oa

How strange: the store I used to work at had us writing 1) the store ID number; 2) the customer's (government-issued) ID number; 3) the check-verification-terminal number; and 4) the approval number. *On* the check itself. Is it different for each bank, or does that "no writing" thing only apply to filling out the check? (And of course they might have changed the policy--I quit a while ago.)

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Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired

rogue
2004-10-27 08:56 pm UTC (link)

The stores that do that are stores that

a) are lacking some magical piece of equipment I am not entirely familiar with that does wonderful things to checks

b) do not trust their dumbass customers to write that info down themselves

because the customer is supposed to write it on for themselves. I've noticed that it's usual never huge chains that allow this to happen, unless the managers are really laid back and have no fear of secret shoppers.

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	Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired ymfaery 2004-10-27 09:20 pm UTC (link)
	Well, this store was a bit on the anal and weird side when it came to policies. Still, whatever check policy they implemented was most likely due to the bank saying they needed the information. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired lots42 2004-10-30 04:35 pm UTC (link)
	I recall, while working at one of the big, big video stores, writing info on the check...something like the account number? Of course, if we had asked the typical customer to write the account number on the check, their tiny little brains would have frozen up and they would have bitched. Bitching being the default response for video store customers. (Reply to this)(Parent)

Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired

vasaris
2004-10-27 09:07 pm UTC (link)

On the whole, probably filling the check out. Verification information is nowhere *near* the same thing as filling in the amount owed. Or even who the check is to.

In all honesty, the check writer should be grateful that the OP wouldn't do it -- after all, the OP could have inserted his/her own name and any amount imaginable on the check.

(I have to agree that scanning and posting the check was asshatish in the extreme, though.)

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	Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired ipomoea 2004-10-27 08:57 pm UTC (link)
	I'm not sure if that's just specific to where you live, but in my state, if you pay using a check the cashier usually writes somewhere on the check both your ID number (driver's or state-issued) and your telephone number. And when I worked retail we also had store specific numbers that we had to write on them. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired

rogue
2004-10-27 09:01 pm UTC (link)

*points to reply to ymfaery above*

It could indeed by state specific, or just chain specific. I worked in a mom and pop store, and the owner wanted me to write on everyone's checks, and it really bothered me, since my grandfather owned a bank for several years, and I know that, at least in California, that's illegal. I'm pretty sure the store book keeper can STAMP them, but you're not supposed to WRITE on them.

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	Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired ipomoea 2004-10-27 09:12 pm UTC (link)
	Ah, that clears it up then, since you mentioned it definitely is illegal in California. Where I live (Texas) it isn't, so even the big retail chains do it. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired mistressrenet 2004-10-28 01:34 pm UTC (link)
	Yes, what you said. And it must say something about the area I live in, but that check...didn't look so bad to me. (Reply to this)(Parent)

Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired

iczer6
2004-10-27 08:00 pm UTC (link)

I think she should have helped. I get that she could have gotten fired, I understand that she's not allowed. I still think she should have helped.

You do realize that if she had helped it may have things a whole lot worse right?

I mean aside from being fired, what if the bank notices that there's different handwriting on that check and stops payment on it, which can cause problems both for the guy and the stores finances?

What if the guy got a letter from the bank about the check being canceled, got mad, and decided to take legal action against the store or the cashier?

And I'll sound like the bitch queen but if the guy can't fucking read or write then he shouldn't be using checks. There are literally dozens of ways to pay for stuff without cash, why is he using the one that he knows he has problems with?

Also it's not the world's responsibility to take care of you. It is *not* the job of the minimum wage slave to fill out your checks, watch your children, or make you stick to your schedule.

I do think that posting the check was pretty crappy though.

Icz

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	Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired dawnswalker 2004-10-28 03:49 am UTC (link)
	Not only was posting the check a crappy thing to do, it could potentially land her in just as much trouble as if she had written the check out herself. So the point is probably moot. At least she had a minimal amount of sense and blurred out most of the bank information... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Sometimes decent things get you fired mydemand 2004-10-28 04:13 am UTC (link)
	Actually, when she first posted the check, a lot of details were still visible. A bunch of commenters called her on it for identity theft, and she blurred it out a few times, but she was rather reluctant about it. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ymfaery 2004-10-27 08:12 am UTC (link)
	... So this "Sonic" place doesn't believe in check printing? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	mydemand 2004-10-27 08:14 am UTC (link)
	Someone pointed that out - I think the response was that it would have taken too long, or something. o_O (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

ymfaery
2004-10-27 08:21 am UTC (link)

I didn't bother going over there to look around--other than seeing how much of the check got blurred, that is.

How could it have been longer than the customer who apparently can't write checks very well? Unless they had a really sucky system, it's usually much faster than someone writing a check unless the person can speed-write. Former part-time job had sucky equipment when I left, but even then it didn't take more than half a minute to print a check if done correctly.

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	(Anonymous) 2004-10-27 09:28 pm UTC (link)
	Wasn't the OP taking the food out to the guy though? So to print the cheque they'd have to back inside, take up a till printing the cheque and then head back out to get the guy to confirm that the amount on the cheque was right and get him to sign it. Which would take a while. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	wankismyfandom 2004-10-27 09:31 am UTC (link)
	The author of that is mocking someone's illiteracy? Seriously, someone tell me what the fuck "all the mire spicey" means. I can't even figure out what the OP actually meant. Palm, meet forehead. Forehead, meet palm. I'm sure you'll get on wonderfully. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	llama_treats 2004-10-27 03:41 pm UTC (link)
	Isn't it "all the mire spicey" a line from Sonicwocky? (Reply to this)(Parent)

(Anonymous)
2004-10-27 10:05 am UTC (link)

Wow. If the OP hadn't posted that picture, no way would there be all these people foaming at the mouth to paint the customer as some sort of Holy Sainted Hero-Martyr of Learning Disabilities and Unfortunate Financial Situations, and more attention paid to the bit where he was being really irritating by taking the holy fucking forever to make out his payment.

Funny how the complainer stepping over (and, yes, way over) the line of the acceptable will have people rushing to the defence of someone they'd be bitching up the wall over if he'd pulled that sort of stunt at their place of work.

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	(Anonymous) 2004-10-27 10:07 am UTC (link)
	And, um, pretend that both parts of that first sentence actually fit together, would you? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	oysteria 2004-10-27 01:21 pm UTC (link)
	You all of this would have happened because Jesus told you, right? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	iczer6 2004-10-27 08:04 pm UTC (link)
	She's got a point, posting the check is asshaty, but I'm willing to bet a fair amount if she hadn't done that she wouldn't have gotten the reaction she did. My take is you have issues you find a way to cope with them, you don't force them on others if you can help it. (Reply to this)(Parent)