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Roffling all over the wanking world (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} adora_spintriae) wrote in ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/community.gif){kind=small} otf_wank,@ 2004-11-18 07:48:00 |
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Atheist IRC Wank
Oh deary me.
So I tried to log onto #Infidelchat IRC this morning, found out I was banned for some reason, and started cruising around the usual hangouts for some answers.
It all started when a fellow named CM came to the channel who is, apparently, a Net Admin/Saff member of IRChat.
He's generally okay until God_Fearing_Atheist makes a joking comment about "Jew Bankers". (The chatlog is here.)
CM-Away: "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Ice|Hope|Oli|James: and stupidity
God_Fearing_Atheist: and JEW BANKERS
PoodleLovinPessimist: And falling pianos.
CM-Away: hmm
CM makes a Kill for the phrase, breaking rule number one of the IRChat Network Rules of Etiquette, which is acted out on chatter Jeremy among others.
CM-Away: someone say J*w bankers I want to try something
RetardedAmericanVoters: cliques are retarded
JLM: lol I'm all excited now...
Stopper: oy CM, what?
PoodleLovinPessimist: Is Orkut where all the jew bankers hang out?
-:- SignOff PoodleLovinPessimist: #infidelchat (Killed (CM-Away ( Back to the pound with you!)))
Jeremy: Jew bankers.
-:- SignOff Jeremy: #infidelchat (Killed (CM-Away ( Back to the pound with you!)))
Atheists start getting pantsy, because #Infidelchat has never been "a kicky chat" and this kind of shit hasn't happened before.
PoodleLovinPessimist: Good grief.
Jeremy: What the hell?
JLM: now I want to talk to ani...
Stopper: CM .... we arent a kicky chat, really
CM validates himself with metaphors about bridge-jumping and such.
CM-Away: geesh if I asked you to jump off a roof would you
And then it all goes to shit when Jeremy calls him a dimwit *gasp!*.
Jeremy: Plus all I did was do as some dimwit asked, and mentioned "Jew Bankers".
-:- SignOff Jeremy: #infidelchat (Killed (CM-Away ( Back to the pound with you!)))
Then
-:- SignOff Jeremy: #infidelchat (User has been banned from IRChat (Glined))
Atheists ask nicely for CM to bring Jeremy back. CM doesn't and Atheists blaspheme.
Stopper: CM!!
wat|judic: what can't you say?
Stopper: unban him please
CM-Away: called me a dimwit
RetardedAmericanVoters: CM!!!
Stopper: please
CM-Away: sorry not gonna happen
RetardedAmericanVoters: wtf?
CM-Away: he's hoistory
CM-Away: history too
Stopper: CM, please, he doesnt know you
Stopper: and we moderate our own chat
fando: Jeremy is not a bad sort
CM-Away: and he wont get to know me either
Stopper: you cant bait people into breaking rules
Stopper: CM please unban our member
CM-Away: I didn't bait anyone
RetardedAmericanVoters: but, er, okay, you asked him to say something, he did, he gets kicked, he says "dimwit", and then you ban him?
Stopper: he didnt do anything wrong
PoodleLovinPessimist: Are you serious, CM?
CM-Away: I asked him to say something
RetardedAmericanVoters: that's it?
CM-Away: and he did
RetardedAmericanVoters: jesus!
Atheists decide to leave, because obviously, CM is an ass.
PoodleLovinPessimist: Fuck this. I'm finding someplace else to chat.
-:- SignOff PoodleLovinPessimist: #infidelchat (Quit: Advanced IRC 1.32:
don't
ask, don't tell.)
fando: that's a bad precedent, CM
Allan: .... What the
Allan: This is an outrage, sir!
CM-Away: lol
Stopper: CM I beg you do not destroy our community
-:- SignOff Dyrish_: #infidelchat (Quit: *flips the cm control freak off for the night*)
RetardedAmericanVoters: i'm also signing off for the moment, that was unfair
in every shape and form
fando: yes, I object to that
Anyway, Allan and Stopper remain to try and reason with the fellow, but CM is having none of it. PLP jumps back in to post the URL of this thread at IIDB that has been made to complain about it.
]PLP (PoodleLovi@IRChat-8E72E777.dsl.snfc21.p
Allan: Undeniably so.
Stopper: hello PLP
PLP: http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p
CM-Away: he should have accepted the result calmly or asked before said it
PLP (PoodleLovi@IRChat-8E72E777.dsl.snfc21.p
Then CM removes Jeremy's ban, and Allan points out he's being a dick, though nicely.
Allan: You're acting unbecoming of an IRC mod.
Stuff happens, everyone points out he's being a dick, people talk about Arafat's death, and someone closes the entire channel down.
* HotBot (Hot@Bot.IRChat.tv) has left #infidelchat
* Jeremy was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* Mugen was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* IceflamePhoenix was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* infiel was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* Chuck was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* Godot was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* JLM was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* rudeboy was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* CC|afk was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* You were kicked by ChanServ (closed)
Meanwhile, back on the farm... shit starts up on various Atheist forums that have members that use the IRC. At IIDB, between people starting up their own IRC channels and such, Stopper posts a sample of CM "apologising".
CM-Away: Once again I'm sorry for my part in tonights entertainment and assure you all it will never happen again and I personally would hate to see this channel leave it's probably the only inteligent conversation on the network
CM-Away: well most inteligent anyway
-- PoodleLovinPessimist has quit (Quit: I will no longer darken CM's precious server with my unwelcome presence.)
People argue about not "having a war" over this...
JBC-
Don't wreck the community.
CM lost it - okay, that's bad. Shouldn't have happened.
But that's exactly the point - it shouldn't have happened. The community shouldn't be divided, destroyed, or made into a warzone. That's WHY it shouldn't have happened.
Flouncing off in a (completely justified) snit will just cause more damage, will weaken the channel, and will destroy the very thing we all want to protect.
CM has apologised on-channel, I'm pretty sure the "incident" isn't going to happen again - so now more than ever, it needs your support and active presence. Yes, it sucks. But we just have to suck it up for the sake of the place we love so much. It's not like you're condoning continued oppression.
CM: perhaps an anti-inflammatory reflection on the factors involved in the incident would help put out some fires - especially if combined with some assurance that cooler heads will be the order of the day in future. (some of the pricklier types might need promises of sexual favours, but you made the bed...
Dear GOD, but I hate IRC politics.
To quote that immortal, anonymous phrase... can't everybody jsut get along?
jbc
Then JBC takes the other side...
To Stopper:
Yes, kissing admin ass is always wise.
However, you can't expect TOO much from people. Calling someone a gullible fool for trusting you... does actually warrant being called a fair few names.
This is an egalitarian society, after all. Don't we all sneer at theists who suck up to their draconian gods instead of expressing justified contempt?(As someone who has hung around IIDB more than is healthy, I can say we do a lot of both, actually.)
Being so insecure as to get all vengeful over a couple of well-justified insults just earns you less respect, not more.
I don't really think you can ask people to shut up and take it under those circumstances. Take it, sure. Like it, or even shut up about it... no.
jbc
And then CM steps into the thread, saying "OMG I was teh attacked and so never got a chance to apologise to teh room" in a way that would give she of the Dickensian Principles a run for her money...
I agree. The script that began the entire situation was a joke. (a joke with a point I suppose, expressing my opinion of that phrase and the racist attitudes which accompany it) It was similar to placing a whoopee cushion on a chair and asking someone to sit down.(without the attached opinion) Imho after reviewing the log most of the people in the room overreacted to it and attacked me, unwilling to give me the opportunity to explain or apologize for inadvertently offending anyone. My response was to fight back by (temp) banning jeremy from the network which rather than putting an end to it inflamed the situation. Despite my desire to keep the ban in place I removed it hoping people would just drop it.
Instead I sat there for 10 minutes while I was continuously flamed and even being accused of voting for bush.(that was below the belt) I was accused at one point of baiting Jeremy into calling me a dimwit, well at this point everyone was aware of the fact that I was Netadmin and was very clearly baiting me with comments like "So I don't mind being banned, but not because some silly bastard feels his penis it too small." I asked Stopper in pm to put an end to it or I would remove the room from the network, she did nothing and the abuse continued. I don't expect anyone to kiss my ass but I will not sit in a room on my network and tolerate excessive continuous abuse nor will I be forced to leave because of it. As I said I don't expect anyone to kiss my ass but on the other hand I won't kiss anyone else's either. I apologized for the script which offended people and have explained repeatedly it was meant as a joke I hope people can accept that and move on
But continues to act like an ass anyway...
Your response concluded that the post you responded to was accurate, don't try and play people for fools and at least admit you're a moron who believes anything you read.
Then, the thread goes on, and LiquidHAL posts this bit of "This isn't working out. We should see other people" from IRC...
[19:49] CM-Away: sorry all but clearly this isn't working out
[19:49] juiblex: ?
[19:49] Mugen: what does that mean
[19:50] Stopper: ?
[19:50] CM-Away: it's time to say goodbye and it was fun while you were here
[19:50] Mugen: CM someone really has to get the sand out of your vagina
[19:50] juiblex: mugen
[19:50] * juiblex Quit (User has been banned from IRChat (User has been banned for intolerable conduct))
[19:50] * Disconnected
[19:50] Closing Link: Mugen (User has been banned from IRChat (User has been banned for intolerable conduct))
Along with a childish ploy that lays the blame on Ipetrich and Stopper...
Ipetrich: As I write this, when someone else tried to connect to the original #infidelchat, they got these messages:
So ELGS and I are being held responsible for shutting down the original #infidelchat?
Meanwhile, there's a lovely little thread started on Secularlife.org. LoneWolf has unearthed evidence that CM abuseshimself his power regularly. CM has been busy at #Futuramachat and Coolchat and replies to attempts to discuss the issues with... well, see for yourself.
But everyone's moved to Wikkedwire, so I think we can break out the friction-burn cream and settle down again. Well, I hope so anyway.
ETA: Realised you can't access IIDB without being logged in. My bad. Added the important samples from the forum so teh wank is more complete.
Oh deary me.
So I tried to log onto #Infidelchat IRC this morning, found out I was banned for some reason, and started cruising around the usual hangouts for some answers.
It all started when a fellow named CM came to the channel who is, apparently, a Net Admin/Saff member of IRChat.
He's generally okay until God_Fearing_Atheist makes a joking comment about "Jew Bankers". (The chatlog is here.)
CM-Away: "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Ice|Hope|Oli|James: and stupidity
God_Fearing_Atheist: and JEW BANKERS
PoodleLovinPessimist: And falling pianos.
CM-Away: hmm
CM makes a Kill for the phrase, breaking rule number one of the IRChat Network Rules of Etiquette, which is acted out on chatter Jeremy among others.
CM-Away: someone say J*w bankers I want to try something
RetardedAmericanVoters: cliques are retarded
JLM: lol I'm all excited now...
Stopper: oy CM, what?
PoodleLovinPessimist: Is Orkut where all the jew bankers hang out?
-:- SignOff PoodleLovinPessimist: #infidelchat (Killed (CM-Away ( Back to the pound with you!)))
Jeremy: Jew bankers.
-:- SignOff Jeremy: #infidelchat (Killed (CM-Away ( Back to the pound with you!)))
Atheists start getting pantsy, because #Infidelchat has never been "a kicky chat" and this kind of shit hasn't happened before.
PoodleLovinPessimist: Good grief.
Jeremy: What the hell?
JLM: now I want to talk to ani...
Stopper: CM .... we arent a kicky chat, really
CM validates himself with metaphors about bridge-jumping and such.
CM-Away: geesh if I asked you to jump off a roof would you
And then it all goes to shit when Jeremy calls him a dimwit *gasp!*.
Jeremy: Plus all I did was do as some dimwit asked, and mentioned "Jew Bankers".
-:- SignOff Jeremy: #infidelchat (Killed (CM-Away ( Back to the pound with you!)))
Then
-:- SignOff Jeremy: #infidelchat (User has been banned from IRChat (Glined))
Atheists ask nicely for CM to bring Jeremy back. CM doesn't and Atheists blaspheme.
Stopper: CM!!
wat|judic: what can't you say?
Stopper: unban him please
CM-Away: called me a dimwit
RetardedAmericanVoters: CM!!!
Stopper: please
CM-Away: sorry not gonna happen
RetardedAmericanVoters: wtf?
CM-Away: he's hoistory
CM-Away: history too
Stopper: CM, please, he doesnt know you
Stopper: and we moderate our own chat
fando: Jeremy is not a bad sort
CM-Away: and he wont get to know me either
Stopper: you cant bait people into breaking rules
Stopper: CM please unban our member
CM-Away: I didn't bait anyone
RetardedAmericanVoters: but, er, okay, you asked him to say something, he did, he gets kicked, he says "dimwit", and then you ban him?
Stopper: he didnt do anything wrong
PoodleLovinPessimist: Are you serious, CM?
CM-Away: I asked him to say something
RetardedAmericanVoters: that's it?
CM-Away: and he did
RetardedAmericanVoters: jesus!
Atheists decide to leave, because obviously, CM is an ass.
PoodleLovinPessimist: Fuck this. I'm finding someplace else to chat.
-:- SignOff PoodleLovinPessimist: #infidelchat (Quit: Advanced IRC 1.32:
don't
ask, don't tell.)
fando: that's a bad precedent, CM
Allan: .... What the
Allan: This is an outrage, sir!
CM-Away: lol
Stopper: CM I beg you do not destroy our community
-:- SignOff Dyrish_: #infidelchat (Quit: *flips the cm control freak off for the night*)
RetardedAmericanVoters: i'm also signing off for the moment, that was unfair
in every shape and form
fando: yes, I object to that
Anyway, Allan and Stopper remain to try and reason with the fellow, but CM is having none of it. PLP jumps back in to post the URL of this thread at IIDB that has been made to complain about it.
]PLP (PoodleLovi@IRChat-8E72E777.dsl.snfc21.p
Allan: Undeniably so.
Stopper: hello PLP
PLP: http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p
CM-Away: he should have accepted the result calmly or asked before said it
PLP (PoodleLovi@IRChat-8E72E777.dsl.snfc21.p
Then CM removes Jeremy's ban, and Allan points out he's being a dick, though nicely.
Allan: You're acting unbecoming of an IRC mod.
Stuff happens, everyone points out he's being a dick, people talk about Arafat's death, and someone closes the entire channel down.
* HotBot (Hot@Bot.IRChat.tv) has left #infidelchat
* Jeremy was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* Mugen was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* IceflamePhoenix was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* infiel was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* Chuck was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* Godot was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* JLM was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* rudeboy was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* CC|afk was kicked by ChanServ (closed)
* You were kicked by ChanServ (closed)
Meanwhile, back on the farm... shit starts up on various Atheist forums that have members that use the IRC. At IIDB, between people starting up their own IRC channels and such, Stopper posts a sample of CM "apologising".
CM-Away: Once again I'm sorry for my part in tonights entertainment and assure you all it will never happen again and I personally would hate to see this channel leave it's probably the only inteligent conversation on the network
CM-Away: well most inteligent anyway
-- PoodleLovinPessimist has quit (Quit: I will no longer darken CM's precious server with my unwelcome presence.)
People argue about not "having a war" over this...
JBC-
Don't wreck the community.
CM lost it - okay, that's bad. Shouldn't have happened.
But that's exactly the point - it shouldn't have happened. The community shouldn't be divided, destroyed, or made into a warzone. That's WHY it shouldn't have happened.
Flouncing off in a (completely justified) snit will just cause more damage, will weaken the channel, and will destroy the very thing we all want to protect.
CM has apologised on-channel, I'm pretty sure the "incident" isn't going to happen again - so now more than ever, it needs your support and active presence. Yes, it sucks. But we just have to suck it up for the sake of the place we love so much. It's not like you're condoning continued oppression.
CM: perhaps an anti-inflammatory reflection on the factors involved in the incident would help put out some fires - especially if combined with some assurance that cooler heads will be the order of the day in future. (some of the pricklier types might need promises of sexual favours, but you made the bed...
Dear GOD, but I hate IRC politics.
To quote that immortal, anonymous phrase... can't everybody jsut get along?
jbc
Then JBC takes the other side...
To Stopper:
Yes, kissing admin ass is always wise.
However, you can't expect TOO much from people. Calling someone a gullible fool for trusting you... does actually warrant being called a fair few names.
This is an egalitarian society, after all. Don't we all sneer at theists who suck up to their draconian gods instead of expressing justified contempt?(As someone who has hung around IIDB more than is healthy, I can say we do a lot of both, actually.)
Being so insecure as to get all vengeful over a couple of well-justified insults just earns you less respect, not more.
I don't really think you can ask people to shut up and take it under those circumstances. Take it, sure. Like it, or even shut up about it... no.
jbc
And then CM steps into the thread, saying "OMG I was teh attacked and so never got a chance to apologise to teh room" in a way that would give she of the Dickensian Principles a run for her money...
I agree. The script that began the entire situation was a joke. (a joke with a point I suppose, expressing my opinion of that phrase and the racist attitudes which accompany it) It was similar to placing a whoopee cushion on a chair and asking someone to sit down.(without the attached opinion) Imho after reviewing the log most of the people in the room overreacted to it and attacked me, unwilling to give me the opportunity to explain or apologize for inadvertently offending anyone. My response was to fight back by (temp) banning jeremy from the network which rather than putting an end to it inflamed the situation. Despite my desire to keep the ban in place I removed it hoping people would just drop it.
Instead I sat there for 10 minutes while I was continuously flamed and even being accused of voting for bush.(that was below the belt) I was accused at one point of baiting Jeremy into calling me a dimwit, well at this point everyone was aware of the fact that I was Netadmin and was very clearly baiting me with comments like "So I don't mind being banned, but not because some silly bastard feels his penis it too small." I asked Stopper in pm to put an end to it or I would remove the room from the network, she did nothing and the abuse continued. I don't expect anyone to kiss my ass but I will not sit in a room on my network and tolerate excessive continuous abuse nor will I be forced to leave because of it. As I said I don't expect anyone to kiss my ass but on the other hand I won't kiss anyone else's either. I apologized for the script which offended people and have explained repeatedly it was meant as a joke I hope people can accept that and move on
But continues to act like an ass anyway...
Your response concluded that the post you responded to was accurate, don't try and play people for fools and at least admit you're a moron who believes anything you read.
Then, the thread goes on, and LiquidHAL posts this bit of "This isn't working out. We should see other people" from IRC...
[19:49] CM-Away: sorry all but clearly this isn't working out
[19:49] juiblex: ?
[19:49] Mugen: what does that mean
[19:50] Stopper: ?
[19:50] CM-Away: it's time to say goodbye and it was fun while you were here
[19:50] Mugen: CM someone really has to get the sand out of your vagina
[19:50] juiblex: mugen
[19:50] * juiblex Quit (User has been banned from IRChat (User has been banned for intolerable conduct))
[19:50] * Disconnected
[19:50] Closing Link: Mugen (User has been banned from IRChat (User has been banned for intolerable conduct))
Along with a childish ploy that lays the blame on Ipetrich and Stopper...
Ipetrich: As I write this, when someone else tried to connect to the original #infidelchat, they got these messages:
I went in as "Guest"
I got:
*** You have been kicked off channel #infidelchat by ChanServ (closed by lpetrich and Stopper)
*** Auto-rejoining #infidelchat on kick from ChanServ
*** Mode for channel #infidelchat is " sntc "
*** Channel #infidelchat was created at Sun Oct 03 18:58:12 2004
*** Cannot join #infidelchat: ( b you!) Banned.
So ELGS and I are being held responsible for shutting down the original #infidelchat?
Meanwhile, there's a lovely little thread started on Secularlife.org. LoneWolf has unearthed evidence that CM abuses
But everyone's moved to Wikkedwire, so I think we can break out the friction-burn cream and settle down again. Well, I hope so anyway.
ETA: Realised you can't access IIDB without being logged in. My bad. Added the important samples from the forum so teh wank is more complete.
