First post, so I really hope I don't blow it. This is kind of a baby wank, but it spans four posts and currently 46 comments.

A little background on this one for those of you who aren't college football fans: the University of Michigan Wolverines and the Ohio State Buckeyes have a long-standing rivalry and hate each other about as much as do the Protestants and Catholics. The only difference is that the football rivalry has produced less bloodshed (I think).

The wank began yesterday when Ohio State beat Michigan. You might be the better team this year, but we still won! Hahaha!

This was quickly followed by You might have won this year, but we are still the better team! Hahaha!

Meanwhile, those of us not from either school do not care in the slightest.

Followed by another Ohio State fan (I think; the post is so painful I'm not quite sure what's going on in it): We both suck, but Michigan swallows. That is an actual paraphrasing. I'm not nearly clever enough to come up with that on my own.

Followed by a Michigan fan with we still have the better record, losers. Somewhere in the middle of this post, the Pac-10 fans feel left out of the wank and state that no one cares, because Cal will still win the Rose Bowl.

The last post just annoys me. That person is an unusually involved troll. She started up with LSU last year, stating that they were the only true national champions or something. Which just makes her a bandwagon troll as far as I can tell.

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	25th_of_april 2004-11-22 02:27 am UTC (link)
	Aww, I don't have any of my Michigan icons uploaded here. Boo. I'm surprised there doesn't seem to have been any references to the Clarett scandal yet. I don't think I could resist that kind of opportunity. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	the_clansmen 2004-11-22 03:34 am UTC (link)
	[as OSU fan] You haven't made fun of us for Clarett yet! You r dum! Hmmm...maybe we can't call this thread true wank until he comes up. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	annabelle_lee 2004-11-22 03:21 am UTC (link)
	...football wank. That's just too easy to mock. Waay too easy. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	the_clansmen 2004-11-22 03:33 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, it really is. I'm almost ashamed of myself for taking the easy one. Almost. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	annabelle_lee 2004-11-22 05:05 am UTC (link)
	Hey, somebody had to do it. And I'm not that innocent either. My first wank was about furries and anime fans. If that's not easy, I don't know what is. (Reply to this)(Parent)

ellensmithee
2004-11-22 01:07 pm UTC (link)

The only difference is that the football rivalry has produced less bloodshed (I think).

Don't be so sure. ;-) The rivalry started because of a territorial dispute in the 19th century (over the stretch of land between Toledo and the Ohio/Michigan border) that led to an armed conflict. It let to a federal law or constitutional amendment that said that states weren't allowed to declare war on each other to solve their disputes, but rather they had to rely on the federal government to arbitrate. Or something like that (remembers vaguely from 7th grade Ohio History).

There were riots after every Ohio State/Michigan game when I was growing up, but they died down in the 80s. When I was a student there in the mid to late 80s, some of the campus stores still boarded up their windows on Ohio State/Michigan weekend to be safe. My family tells me that the riots have started up again in recent years.

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	the_clansmen 2004-11-23 12:03 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, but I figure the Protestants and Catholics have a slight head start, and more countries involved. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ellensmithee 2004-11-23 12:06 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, I didn't mean that was as serious as that. I have no idea if anyone actually got killed in the conflict or if it was just a bunch of farmers with guns getting uppity. I just meant that the rivalry's origin was a bit more serious than college football alone, but certainly not as serious as the Northern Ireland thing. ;-) (Reply to this)(Parent)

melusine
2004-11-23 12:07 am UTC (link)

And believe me, people in the Toledo area take the Ohio/Michigan games to weird levels to this very day. There's a person who has his ROOF done up in gray with a red O at its center and another person whose car has the vanity place "UM LOSE."

It's also a tradition, at least in middle school and elementary school, for everyone to dress up in either Mighigan or Ohio tshirts for the entire day. People shun their friends for that day if they support the opposing team and classes are split with people supporting one team on one side and the other on the other, with, if possible, a row of empty desks between them.

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	ellensmithee 2004-11-23 12:08 pm UTC (link)
	Hee! In Columbus, you would have gotten lynched if you showed up at school in Michigan colors that week. (Reply to this)(Parent)