pokecheck
2004-11-25 11:57 am UTC (link)

Don't quote me on this, but from what I know the owners of this site only do it for legal reasons, not personal insecurities. Either way, I still say it's wrong.

That's right kids. It's wrong to obey the law! Especially laws that I'm not sure exist. But if they did, you shouldn't obey them. If they don't really exist, you shouldn't obey them either. Not obeying non existent laws is the only way we can express our true selves.

Right?

p.s. Clone High icon? Sweet.

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	jess_d_ripper 2004-11-25 03:26 pm UTC (link)
	Yay, another Clone High fan! (Reply to this)(Parent)

meshou
2004-11-25 12:43 pm UTC (link)

They keep using that phrase. I do not think it means what they think it means. Here are a few hints:

1) If I am the mod of a board/ community and I shut your ass up for any reason, including for my own personal amusement and blatant favoritism, I am not violating your right to free speech, I am exercising my right to shut you up.

2) If I tell you to shut the fuck up, may I point out the fact you can say that I am violating your free speech means you have not shut up yet? And can you please remedy that?

3) People disagreeing with you does not violate your free speech.

4) If the owners of a non-government site do not want to host something for you for any reason, then they are exercising their freedom of speech by not hosting works they don't want to. They do not violate yours by doing so. Not even if it's a poem about having sex with your dog.

5) If your dog is able to thrust into you in a non-sexual way, seek medical attention. Use duct tape to hold together your tissue-paper skin.

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	pokecheck 2004-11-25 12:47 pm UTC (link)
	They keep using the word "into." I really do not think it means what they think it means. (Reply to this)(Parent)

blue_linnet
2004-11-25 12:53 pm UTC (link)

*cheers* I am so very tired of people yelling about free-speech infringement when somebody tells them to shut up. It can very easily go in circles. Also, even if there WERE laws against free speech, and the government could shut people up, I highly doubt they would be appointing Livejournal posters as the enforcers of such a law.

(I'm kind of alarmed that in the past few days, there's this wank on Sheezy, involving dog sex, and that other wank, wherein someone was claiming to be a pitbull. Run, pitbull, run!)

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	squib 2004-11-26 12:37 am UTC (link)
	may I point out the fact you can say that I am violating your free speech means you have not shut up yet? cough sputter Never, ever drink while reading F_W. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	calluna 2004-11-28 04:43 am UTC (link)
	I'd also like to add that modding is also not "playing God". (Must make jurisimprudence rule...) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Oddly enough.. (Anonymous) 2004-12-06 01:30 pm UTC (link)
	Bestiality isn't illegal in the state SheezyArt is hosted in :) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	(Anonymous) 2004-11-25 01:05 pm UTC (link)
	Sheezy sure is awanking. Well, no more than usual, but it seems to be getting reported for it more often now. As a bonus, there's a thread (http://www.sheezyart.com/forum/topic/8673/) in the forums about Ebonlupus and the possiblity of art theft. Oh, and the near-bottom tree involving Grave and Kippixin (and, uh, me)? /Wonderful/. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2004-11-25 01:23 pm UTC (link)
	Oh whoops, got my wank strings crossed. There's a whole 'nother post by Snowolf (http://www.sheezyart.com/journal/19495/) that gets just as wanky. I did like my summation of it, though. Snowolf: I FUCK DOGS Grave: YOU FUCK DOGS YOU PERVERT Kippixin: YOU SUCK I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR LIP (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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this whole thing has a really horrible fascination for me -

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	pirotess 2004-11-25 01:39 pm UTC (link)
	"Pumptioning"! What a beautiful word! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	kannaophelia 2004-11-25 01:47 pm UTC (link)
	Pretty pretty please don't use that icon. I really don't want to think about that at this point... (Reply to this)(Parent)

kannaophelia
2004-11-25 01:45 pm UTC (link)

You do realise I went and read that poem, don't you? And that it's all your fault I'm now haunted by the plaintive query of whether his dog is in fact suffering when he can hear the happiness in its pants as it "mates" with him... I didn't really need to to know zoophile angst exists.

I am seriously sick
I need help
Everything I know is wrong
My reason is unreasonable
My sanity is insane

Or so they tell me.

Please, Mr Ebonlupus, allow me to side with "them".

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	schoenschoen 2004-11-25 01:59 pm UTC (link)
	Good gods, it just goes in circles! And now I've got the sick, sick urge to find that old Pamela Anderson/The Girl from Tool Time/7 large dogs RPS that came from the computer system at work and make an SA account just to post it. And then whine that they denied my 'freedom of speech' because I violated their TOS. :O (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	Okay, who else wants to set this guy up on a blind date with Pitbull? (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	sarajayechan 2004-11-25 04:19 pm UTC (link)
	"They deleted my poem about being fucked by a dog! That's censorship! That's a violation of the first Ammendmant!" Can't anyone choose not to have anything on their site without people crying "censorship"? To think I used to be so against censorship. Now all these people crying "censorship!" over everything makes me not care. Damn them! (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	GANDHI! marlo 2004-11-25 06:01 pm UTC (link)
	ICON LOVE!!! (Reply to this)

	marlo 2004-11-25 06:09 pm UTC (link)
	oh, also? this is wanky. I'll give it that. But am I the only one who wasn't that disgusted or offended when I read the poem? (Reply to this)(Thread)

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xero_sky
2004-11-25 06:53 pm UTC (link)
My speech has been taken from me...

If only that was true.

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squib
2004-11-26 12:41 am UTC (link)
As I woofed, the bigots have things sewn up so well I can't even argue my side of it by giving an example in art."

As I woofed? You WOOFED?

Bwaahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

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adora_spintriae
2004-11-26 05:40 am UTC (link)
I think they should have deleted him for shit poetry. But hey, that's just me and my sanity talking.
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Silly hyoomans, rules are for me to break!
aruru
2004-11-26 05:43 am UTC (link)
My poem, on the other paw, doesn't violate it because it does not "lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value." In fact it makes a VERY political point expressed in literary art? although I admit I suck at the English language.

and

Actually this is wrong... I wrote the poem to clearly make use of freedom of speech to satirize the dogma-afflicted view (which is drawn from a religious source and thus clearly deprives me of freedom of religion) of a non-human animal having a relationship with a human animal. The passage in question was a tastefully done depiction of an act, for use as an example of how pompous and irrational people are who claim that such an act is abusing animals? an act initiated and performed by the dog himself. How can I show the example otherwise? There was "serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value" to this example; therefore it violated no law... EXCEPT YOURS.

Jesus Christ, dude, could you be any MORE egotistical about your poetic ability?

Why am I pushing this, Spenser... because I've been singled out and my art has been persecuted for a single line of text in a poem when things 1000 times worse by society standards go uncensored.

I'm amazed he didn't use the word "fursecuted" there, with all the "woofing" in other parts of the thread.

I'm done with you. Appearently human ego has overode reason once more...

Pot to kettle! Pot calling kettle! Over?
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Re: Silly hyoomans, rules are for me to break! - (Anonymous), 2004-11-26 07:37 am UTC

Re: Silly hyoomans, rules are for me to break! - redwarrior, 2004-11-27 04:46 am UTC

aruru
2004-11-26 06:04 am UTC (link)
And hey, wait a minute... that's EbonLupus! He's been featured on TWS Support at least twice before. Go fig.
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(Anonymous)
2004-11-28 09:18 pm UTC (link)
Nothing wrong with the poem. It was written for very specific reasons. I think it's also written about the kind of zoophile I really don't have any problem with--the kind that don't actually injure the animal. What pisses me off are the people who (supposedly) amputate the feet of tiny animals and stuff them into their orifices. Those animals are abused. Some chick who lets her dog do his thing on her is not abusing her dog.
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